the price of straw

White Clover

whelan2 wrote: »

Big ones

There's a few types of big ones 😆

simx

White Clover wrote: »

There's a few types of big ones 😆

8x4x4 be biggest
8x4x3 more common

whelan2

simx wrote: »

8x4x4 be biggest
8x4x3 more common

I'd say 8x4x3 just after shaking one out there now

Bass Reeves

whelan2 wrote: »

I'd say 8x4x3 just after shaking one out there now

They are much the same cubioc capacity as a 4X4 round bales. After taht it depends on how much it is packed 10-12 I expect

Grueller

Bass Reeves wrote: »

They are much the same cubioc capacity as a 4X4 round bales. After taht it depends on how much it is packed 10-12 I expect

Is 8 x 4 x 3 not 96ft3
3.14x4x4 = 50.24

8x4x3 is almost double the volume.

White Clover

whelan2 wrote: »

I'd say 8x4x3 just after shaking one out there now

They're easier to measure before you shake them out😆

whelan2

Is there 2.5 rounds in a big square bale and 8small squares in a round bale?

whelan2

White Clover wrote: »

They're easier to measure before you shake them out😆

Ye its about 45ft by 40 foot at the moment. About 4inches high . How many small squares in that?

Gawddawggonnit

Waffletraktor wrote: »

It's pointless growing feed crops in Western Europe, our costs are too high.

The reality is you'll grow oats and fairly succesfully malting barley. Spring milling wheat is too hard as you can't get hagbergs and fusarium risk to do it year in year out. Ergot takes out human grade rye most years. Beans should be doable if get past chocolate spot with the rainfall. Seed crops might be fairly succesful with clean land.
Coupled to the above is an likely probability new actives won't be brought to Ireland and new varieties won't be released for a few years considering the cost of breeding vs risk of faster breakdown to disease.

A better idea would be looking at it as a case study and take heed of what Kowtow etc would be saying about mass production regardless.

Thoroughly agree.
There's absolutely no future in growing feed grains in the Eu. It's best leave the dirt cheap feed be sourced from the Black Sea.
However merchants/Coops don't want to hear about speciality crops as they have a massive margin in the milling and supply of feed to livestock farmers.

Bit of a catch-22 really...

Jezabelle28

whelan2 wrote: »

How many small square bales in a big square bale? Thinking of asking a neighbour with a small baler to rebale a few big squares into small squares, would it work out ok?

Got as many as 22- 25 in a couple of big bales we baled (one of them was a bit damp hence the 22)

White Clover

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye its about 45ft by 40 foot at the moment. About 4inches high . How many small squares in that?

I'd say there'd be a good few big small bales in that!

J.O. Farmer

Grueller wrote: »

Is 8 x 4 x 3 not 96ft3
3.14x4x4 = 50.24

8x4x3 is almost double the volume.

The fella selling hay reckoned the 8×4×3 was the same as the 4×4 and was asking the same for both bales

Grueller

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

The fella selling hay reckoned the 8×4×3 was the same as the 4×4 and was asking the same for both bales

Maybe I am wrong but by volume calculations on shape of both I think I am right. Wouldn't be my first time ever being wrong.

newholland mad

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

The fella selling hay reckoned the 8×4×3 was the same as the 4×4 and was asking the same for both bales

Either the 4x4 was savage dear or the 8x4x3 was savage cheap but he has his volumes mixed up

J.O. Farmer

newholland mad wrote: »

Either the 4x4 was savage dear or the 8x4x3 was savage cheap but he has his volumes mixed up

Maybe it wasn't 8x4x3 but it was a big square bale but not the really big one so unless there's a smaller big square bale the 4x4 wasn't savage dear at €28. That's the rate over the west here.

Would the 4×4 be more packed.

newholland mad

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Maybe it wasn't 8x4x3 but it was a big square bale but not the really big one so unless there's a smaller big square bale the 4x4 wasn't savage dear at €28. That's the rate over the west here.

Would the 4×4 be more packed.

Probably a 6x3x3 or coffin bales as some lads call them. I think they are similar to rounds

White Clover

newholland mad wrote: »

Probably a 6x3x3 or coffin bales as some lads call them. I think they are similar to rounds

That's them. I had some last spring. About 7x3x2 in size. The rounds would have a little bit more in them.

Sam Kade

Not much straw baled when fit, I'd say any buyers would want to be diving well into a bale to get a proper sample.

Gawddawggonnit

Selling straw on a per bale basis only suits the seller.

We do straw for muck trade and therefore need to put 500kg in the bales.

8x4x3 =500kg they have to be packed fair hard for that weight.

6x4 round needs to be packed to the max to get 500kg into them.

I would guestimate a 4x4 round to be about 200kg...especially in a year like this. Buns we used to call them!

Green&Red

Wondering what lads are giving for a bale of straw?
Apparently the large rectangular ones cant be got, round bales are €30 and small square bales €3.80, seems extortionate!

Mod note edit; Moved to existing thread on straw price.

whelan2

Buy it now. It will be dearer in the spring

blue5000

Time to be looking for substitutes, peat, sawdust, woodchip, cardboard and miscanthus.

Green&Red

whelan2 wrote: »

Buy it now. It will be dearer in the spring

Any price on the small bales?