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    #32
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,960 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    It's hardly sematics. It's there in plain english from the CI.

    CI get things wrong more often than you would expect.


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    #33
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    CI get things wrong more often than you would expect.

    Frequently, but they're not wrong here. Further disccusion though in the linked thread.


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    #34
    4ensic15
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    A licencee in a house share with an owner occupier is in the same legal position as a guest in a hotel. Reasonable is a matter of construing the circumstances. If I book into a hotel for 3 nights, it is unreasonable for the hotel to come to the room on the first night and tell me to go for the sole reason that someone else has offered more money for a room. If however, on the first night, I am breaking the conditions of the contract or behaving unreasonably by shouting in corridors at 4 am, it may well be reasonable to eject me on the spot.
    In a house share a landlord would be allowed a considerable measure of latitude in deciding what is reasonable. It is their home and if there is incompatibility with a tenant they would not be expected to continue living with that person for very long.


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    #35
    sondagefaux
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    I have lodgers. Their agreements state that I must give them 48 hours notice in normal circumstances or can throw them out immediately if they do anything illegal, including using or threatening to use violence against me or any other person in the house. 
    No problems so far with this from any lodgers I've had.


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    #36
    cerastes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    sondagefaux wrote: »
    I have lodgers. Their agreements state that I must give them 48 hours notice in normal circumstances or can throw them out immediately if they do anything illegal, including using or threatening to use violence against me or any other person in the house.
    No problems so far with this from any lodgers I've had.

    Well, you are mad to do so, 48 hours if someone uses violence and the fact you have given them rights they dont have.
    48 hours might be reasonable in reasonable circumstances, but what is reasonable or normal? violence or illegality is not.
    You have given them right to stay to include, that they can do anything including threaten you with violence and you would still let them stay 48 hours.
    Id have them out in as long as it took the Gardai to arrive in the case of violence, threats of it, or damage to my property or any of that to anyone else in the house.


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    #37
    virgo69
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    cerastes wrote: »
    Well, you are mad to do so, 48 hours if someone uses violence and the fact you have given them rights they dont have.
    48 hours might be reasonable in reasonable circumstances, but what is reasonable or normal? violence or illegality is not.
    You have given them right to stay to include, that they can do anything including threaten you with violence and you would still let them stay 48 hours.
    Id have them out in as long as it took the Gardai to arrive in the case of violence, threats of it, or damage to my property or any of that to anyone else in the house.


    Eh doesn't the post say 48 hours in normal circumstances but in the case of violence, anything illegal they are out immediately? Or maybe I'm reading it wrong.


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    #38
    sondagefaux
    Registered Users Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭sondagefaux


    cerastes wrote: »
    sondagefaux wrote: »
    I have lodgers. Their agreements state that I must give them 48 hours notice in normal circumstances or can throw them out immediately if they do anything illegal, including using or threatening to use violence against me or any other person in the house.
    No problems so far with this from any lodgers I've had.

    Well, you are mad to do so, 48 hours if someone uses violence and the fact you have given them rights they dont have.
    48 hours might be reasonable in reasonable circumstances, but what is reasonable or normal? violence or illegality is not.
    You have given them right to stay to include, that they can do anything including threaten you with violence and you would still let them stay 48 hours.
    Id have them out in as long as it took the Gardai to arrive in the case of violence, threats of it, or damage to my property or any of that to anyone else in the house.
    I think you've misread my post. 
    If they do something illegal, including use of or threats of violence, they're out the door immediately. 
    They get 48 hours notice under normal circumstances.


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    #39
    sondagefaux
    Registered Users Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭sondagefaux


    virgo69 wrote: »
    cerastes wrote: »
    Well, you are mad to do so, 48 hours if someone uses violence and the fact you have given them rights they dont have.
    48 hours might be reasonable in reasonable circumstances, but what is reasonable or normal? violence or illegality is not.
    You have given them right to stay to include, that they can do anything including threaten you with violence and you would still let them stay 48 hours.
    Id have them out in as long as it took the Gardai to arrive in the case of violence, threats of it, or damage to my property or any of that to anyone else in the house.


    Eh doesn't the post say 48 hours in normal circumstances but in the case of violence, anything illegal they are out immediately?   Or maybe I'm reading it wrong.
    No, you're dead right. The other poster read it wrong.


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    #40
    cerastes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    virgo69 wrote: »
    Eh doesn't the post say 48 hours in normal circumstances but in the case of violence, anything illegal they are out immediately? Or maybe I'm reading it wrong.
    sondagefaux wrote: »
    I think you've misread my post.
    If they do something illegal, including use of or threats of violence, they're out the door immediately.
    They get 48 hours notice under normal circumstances.

    I did read it wrong, I somehow misread that?? thought it said, if they threaten you they get 48 hours to leave :eek: must be tired !?


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    #41
    worded
    Registered Users Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭worded


    She knew the score when she moved in.


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