British monarch references painted over on street signs.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

“The group are engaging in Civil Disobedience to remove Victoria’s name, stating that this is necessary in order to respect the memory of the millions who starved and were dispossessed under her reign,” Mr Ó Cadhla said.

The lads do seem a bit mad in fairness.

But in principle I wouldn't be against renaming some streets if the public will was there for it to be done.

Breaking news from 1907?

Thoie

I think civil disobedience would have been taping a bit of paper over the name. Painting is just pure vandalism, and will cost money to be cleaned up, or new plates manufactured. I suppose their argument is that while new plates are being made, they could change the names at the same time, but it's not that simple, and while the decision was being made (which could take a year), you're left with no usable plates.

Cretinous act.

Grayson

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

“The group are engaging in Civil Disobedience to remove Victoria’s name, stating that this is necessary in order to respect the memory of the millions who starved and were dispossessed under her reign,” Mr Ó Cadhla said.

The lads do seem a bit mad in fairness.

But in principle I wouldn't be against renaming some streets if the public will was there for it to be done.

looked at the twitter feed you linked. Are they the guys who tried to burn the EU flag and then discovered that thanks to EU regulations it was made from fabric that couldn't burn?

ohnonotgmail

Grayson wrote: »

looked at the twitter feed you linked. Are they the guys who tried to burn the EU flag and then discovered that thanks to EU regulations it was made from fabric that couldn't burn?

Health and Safety gone mad.

RobertKK

Changing street names will not change history.

The references to Queen Victoria keeps certain things alive, remove Victoria and then no threads that remember how some called her the famine queen.

Changing the names of places is like one is trying to forget their history.

farmchoice

ya he'd want to get with the times alright most of the street names were changed years ago (1940's?). in Ballina some of old and the new names are still used interchangeably, ''you know such and such a pub on king st'', ''you mean o'rahilly st'', but this is dying out, my grand mother always used the old names and real townies still will occasionally.

its peculiar because some of the new names stuck like o rahilly st, pearse st, tone st, stuck while with other streets only the old names are ever used hill st, bridge st, convent hill.

funnily enough ballina had a Victoria terrace, that was re named Emmet st, the house that mary robinson grew up in ( the one that was in the news) is victoia house. the only people who ever use victoria terrece now a days are her family.

gandalf

TBH why change the street names at this stage they are part of our history. Surely there are far more pertinent issues that are effecting people today that they could try and highlight if they have time and energy to waste :rolleyes:

Mr. Incognito

We are a soverign county and can rename any streets we want and gloss over history if we want.

Painting over it will require tax payer funded repairs.

I doubt these lads pay taxes seeing as this was done during office hours.

Idiots of the highest order.

Should all be charged with vandalism.

Fratton Fred

The Lord Mayor rejected the claims he ‘snubbed’ the group.

whisky_galore

Maybe if they painted and brightened up things that needed painting instead of acting the gowl?

seachto7

The Willie Frazer of Cork.

blackwhite

Whether you agree or disagree with their politics.......

It's a very special type of stupid that poses for photos whilst committing a criminal act

DEFTLEFTHAND

Next they'll be forcing people with planters surnames to change to an Irish one.

I always found it curious how many of the nationlist northern paramilitaries lads had these names. When didn't they just go home instead?

whisky_galore

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

The lads do seem a bit mad in fairness.

All aboard for Fruit Cake Central...

Jawgap

Jaysus!!!

What are they going to do to the English Market

Jelle1880

I think I've seen those guys in Cork city center.

They looked like a bunch of weirdos.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Jawgap wrote: »

Jaysus!!!

What are they going to do to the English Market

And the Queen's plaque? :eek:

Zaph

blackwhite wrote: »

Whether you agree or disagree with their politics.......

It's a very special type of stupid that poses for photos whilst committing a criminal act

The guy on the left looks like a complete numpty standing there with his pathetic little flag. If you're going to make a political protest, at least buy yourselves a decent flag and look the part, rather than holding something you picked up for a euro in Carroll's.

Jawgap

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

And the Queen's plaque? :eek:

Never mind Princes Street.......

Zaph

Jawgap wrote: »

Jaysus!!!

What are they going to do to the English Market

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

And the Queen's plaque? :eek:

Jawgap wrote: »

Never mind Princes Street.......

Well when they're done with all them we have a load more they can have a go at in Dublin - North & South King Streets, North & South Earl Streets, a load of places named after King George, Talbot Street...

The only problem is that the street signs are a lot higher up so they'll need to bring a ladder with them.

Patser

It'll cost them a fortune to paint all the Georgian houses....

Jawgap

Zaph wrote: »

Well when they're done with all them we have a load more they can have a go at in Dublin - North & South King Streets, North & South Earl Streets, a load of places named after King George, Talbot Street...

The only problem is that the street signs are a lot higher up so they'll need to bring a ladder with them.

Grand Parade will really screw with their heads!!! A name as Gaeilge that alludes to a British king!!! That'll set their eyes swivelling!!!!

Grand Parade (Sráid an Chapaill Bhuí in Irish), is one of the main streets of Cork city, Ireland. It ......... The Irish name of the street, Sráid an Chapaill Bhuí, comes from a time when there was a statue of King George II on horse-back at the junction with South Mall.

Omackeral

As it appears in that article, they've daubed over Victoria in both the Irish and English languages. It now looks like...

Bóthar Victoria

Victoria Road

Personally, I think Bóthar Road has a good ring to it!

whisky_galore

Omackeral wrote: »

As it appears in that article, they've daubed over Victoria in both the Irish and English languages. It now looks like...




Personally, I think Bóthar Road has a good ring to it!

OMG, they forgot to paint over the hated Anglo-Saxon 'Road', this is an outrage!

bobbysands81

Absolutely pointless.

Leave the names there, it'll actually contribute to an honest historical debate as to what happened in our past.

Only when we're comfortable with the past can we move to the future, pretending things never happened won't help that.

corner of hells

What will they do with the Royal Canal ? Drain it away ?

Omackeral

corner of hells wrote: »

What will they do with the Royal Canal ? Drain it away ?

The Dublin part of it is 75% trolley anyway.

dudara

Jawgap wrote: »

Jaysus!!!

What are they going to do to the English Market

They'll never take the English Market! Never!

On a serious note, our English past is just as much a part of our history as...well anything. To think about renaming 100 years on is just a bit daft.

Permabear

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Harry Palmr

What is their policy position on pre independence post boxes, not to mention county borders.

lawred2

Thoie wrote: »

I think civil disobedience would have been taping a bit of paper over the name. Painting is just pure vandalism, and will cost money to be cleaned up, or new plates manufactured. I suppose their argument is that while new plates are being made, they could change the names at the same time, but it's not that simple, and while the decision was being made (which could take a year), you're left with no usable plates.

Cretinous act.

Oh yeah.. Just the worst.

KingBrian2

They should not rename them they should fix them. You'll notice plenty of them have no names. The print has long since vanished. Take a look all the letters have warn away.

Omackeral

Permabear wrote: »

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In their Arsenal or United jersey.

muttnjeff

that idiot was on local radio this morning-voice of the people my ar**. it is vandalism. I prefer my history un-whitewashed. Our place names are a huge part of what we are and where we came from-and what we have become. Those idiots should be arrested and charged with vandalism and incitement to violence.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I here by start a petition to keep victorian place names!!

Permabear

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EmoCourt

"Activists"

No, Unemployed wastrels.

Commotion Ocean

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

“The group are engaging in Civil Disobedience to remove Victoria’s name, stating that this is necessary in order to respect the memory of the millions who starved and were dispossessed under her reign,” Mr Ó Cadhla said.

The lads do seem a bit mad in fairness.

But in principle I wouldn't be against renaming some streets if the public will was there for it to be done.

If there was a Hitler street in Germany, it'd be long removed at this stage. Why can't we rename streets after our own heroes and heroines, such as Kevin Barry or Countess Markievicz.

exaisle

corner of hells wrote: »

What will they do with the Royal Canal ? Drain it away ?

Sure it'll be Grand...

Commotion Ocean

corner of hells wrote: »

What will they do with the Royal Canal ? Drain it away ?

Rename it the Kevin Barry Canal.

indioblack

dfeo wrote: »

If there was a Hitler street in Germany, it'd be long removed at this stage. Why can't we rename streets after our own heroes and heroines, such as Kevin Barry or Countess Markievicz.

What about Adolf Avenue? Sounds almost suburban.

Fratton Fred

indioblack wrote: »

What about Adolf Avenue? Sounds almost suburban.

We're gonna rock down to Herr Hitler avenue....

Commotion Ocean

dfeo wrote: »

Rename it the Kevin Barry Canal.

indioblack wrote: »

What about Adolf Avenue? Sounds almost suburban.

Ohhh, ehh, nevermind.

tomwaterford

dfeo wrote: »

If there was a Hitler street in Germany, it'd be long removed at this stage. Why can't we rename streets after our own heroes and heroines, such as Kevin Barry or Countess Markievicz.

If theres sistained public appitide for thos over a prolonged period (maybe 5years?)..no point in doing it...if its just fashionable and then changong a few years down the road


Hold a plebicide in areas affected of renaming maybe 8-10 streets etc at the one time??

catbear

RobertKK wrote: »

Changing street names will not change history.

The references to Queen Victoria keeps certain things alive, remove Victoria and then no threads that remember how some called her the famine queen.

Changing the names of places is like one is trying to forget their history.

Keeping that alive hasn't stopped you from calling it famine when there was no shortage of food on the Island.

More accurate to call her the genocide queen.

KingBrian2

catbear wrote: »

Keeping that alive hasn't stopped you from calling it was famine when there was no shortage of food on the Island.

More accurate to call her the genocide queen.

Ah that term is a political word. What happened was an environmental social collapse. The plight impacted rural Ireland the most and society came crashing down all around the island predominantly the midlands & west.

nice_guy80

I would support them painting over the English words on all signage

If they really wanted to erase history of our English overlords

For Forks Sake

EmoCourt wrote: »

"Activists"

No, Unemployed wastrels.

Mr O'Cadhla hasn't even come close to 1% of a quota any time he's stood for election. Must be a fan of losing deposit money.

http://electionsireland.org/candidate.cfm?ID=8218

Jawgap

tomwaterford wrote: »

If theres sistained public appitide for thos over a prolonged period (maybe 5years?)..no point in doing it...if its just fashionable and then changong a few years down the road


Hold a plebicide in areas affected of renaming maybe 8-10 streets etc at the one time??

Yeah, I'd be all for a bit of that in Cork.......;)

Might improve the place.

maryishere

catbear wrote: »

Keeping that alive hasn't stopped you from calling it famine when there was no shortage of food on the Island.

More accurate to call her the genocide queen.

Actually, as said before, in 1847, one of the worst years of the famine, food exports from Ireland were only 120 thousand tons, , and imports of food in the same year was 900 thousand tons......ie, almost 8 times more than exports.
http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/famine/

Academic

This poll has the same shortcoming as the previous poll on this topic, namely it doesn’t offer what is surely the most rational response: evaluate all suggested name changes individually based on their individual merits or demerits.