Paris again?

seachto7

Mary63 wrote: »

You can't blame them maryishere, who wants to stand at the school gates beside women dressed in black tents with a slit cut in the material for their eyes.

Its happening in inner city Dublin and in parts of West Dublin.I want my children to go to school with children of people I am comfortable with and I am not comfortable with men who refuse to shake my hand.If there is an influx of non nationals into an area the white irish will move their children to Gaelscoils, this is the main reason for the growth in Gaelscoils in Dublin.

You are better to avoid single sex secondary schools too if you don't want large numbers of muslims in the school.The muslims in some secondary schools are causing huge issues with school uniforms, they aren't just happy with the hi jab thing, they also want the girls to cover the neck area up completely so they wear extra clothes on top of the school shirts.They get away with this of course because its culturally sensitive, everyone else gets notes home if the uniform isn't correct.

A school in Nutgrove Dublin renamed it self Jesus Mary and something because of the amount of Muslims attending who were complaining about the Cross on the wall, I go to their countries and I have to dress they way they want and yet they come here and object to our crosses.

You weren't on the Nolan show during the week by any chance?

https://audioboom.com/posts/5553927-shocked-nolan-clashes-with-caller-over-muslims-bbcnolan

Mary63

No, that show sounded fun.

I would have no problem being treated by a muslim doctor but not one observing that Ramadan nonsense.Imagine if they keeled over with starvation in the middle of your operation.

maryishere

A few generations ago, who would have thought that half of Leeds / Bradford would be muslim? Or that there would be more muslims in France than there are human beings living on the Island of Ireland.

muddypaws

maryishere wrote: »

The Muslim population in England and Wales nearly doubled in the past 10 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/11/muslim-population-england-wales-nearly-doubles-10-years


Do you really think the muslim population there will not double again he the next 10 years, given the much much higher birth rates etc ?

:pac::pac::pac::pac: The irony, all of the Irish catholics that left in the 40s/50s/60s to go to your beloved UK, not using contraception, so higher birth rates, how has that worked out, huge Irish ghettos are there? English children pushed out of their schools?

Grayson

Jaysus, the stench of bigotry on this thread.

maryishere

muddypaws wrote: »

:pac::pac::pac::pac: The irony, all of the Irish catholics that left in the 40s/50s/60s to go to your beloved UK, not using contraception, so higher birth rates, how has that worked out, huge Irish ghettos are there? English children pushed out of their schools?

I am talking about my beloved Ireland, there are more muslims in France than there are human beings living on the Island of Ireland. You talk about your beloved UK and Irish ghettoes in Glasgow or elsewhere if you want to on another thread : do not derail this one.

The Backwards Man

Grayson wrote: »

Jaysus, the stench of bigotry on this thread.

I thought I was hallucinating about my great aunt that's been dead twenty five years there, glad someone else sees it too!:pac:

The Backwards Man

maryishere wrote: »

I am talking about my beloved Ireland, there are more muslims in France than there are human beings living on the Island of Ireland. You talk about your beloved UK and Irish ghettoes in Glasgow or elsewhere if you want to on another thread : do not derail this one.

How may human beings are there in France?

Billy86

maryishere wrote: »

I did not say it was a friend. I said it was a couple I was talking to. And if they are racist or not is beside the point. I pointed out the reality of what is happening. They do not want a load of immigrants ( some of whom may not even speak English) in their young kids class.

You were specifically talking about Muslims "swarming the local schools so white Irish people will then send their children elsewhere" in the post I replied to - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102521621&postcount=241 . Not sure if you or they are aware, but there are about half a billion Christians from Africa, where black people in Ireland tend to come from, and who would be given preference in the vast majority of schools across the country over Muslim (or any non-Christian) kids, be they from Africa, the middle east, the Balkans (white Muslims are a thing, after all!) or elsewhere. So you can rest easy about that, and with the peace of mind that the person you were speaking to is a racist interested in their skin colour as opposed to religion.

You do not think thats sectarian / wrong?

What I think about it isn't relevant to the fact that it how it is and how it has been since the formation of the state with little sign of change. I find this question strange given you don't think someone clearly being a racist isn't relevant to their perception that 'coloreds' = non Christian.

muddypaws

maryishere wrote: »

I am talking about my beloved Ireland, there are more muslims in France than there are human beings living on the Island of Ireland. You talk about your beloved UK and Irish ghettoes in Glasgow or elsewhere if you want to on another thread : do not derail this one.

Go and re-read your post that I quoted

Thanks, you've given me a really good chuckle.

maryishere

Billy86 wrote: »

You were specifically talking about Muslims "swarming the local schools so white Irish people will then send their children elsewhere" in the post I replied to - .

That was Mary63, not me. in post 241. Get your facts right. I pointed out I was talking to a couple who sent their kids to a Gaelscoil because they said they did not want - in their words or words to that effect - too many coloureds or blacks in their kids classes. Fact.

Billy86 wrote: »

I find this question strange given you don't think someone clearly being a racist isn't relevant to their perception that 'coloreds' = non Christian.

I do not know why you are confused, of course there are plenty of coloured and black people who are Christian.

Atlantic Dawn

Will we ever find out what was in the 2 backpacks the lad was carrying or will it be left to fake news organisations to speculate on and increase the hate? They said it was not explosives but didn't say it wasn't guns.

Grayson

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Will we ever find out what was in the 2 backpacks the lad was carrying or will it be left to fake news organisations to speculate on and increase the hate? They said it was not explosives but didn't say it wasn't guns.

1) they would have said if it was guns. Why say no explosives and not mention guns.
2) why use a hatchet if he had a gun?

Atlantic Dawn

Grayson wrote: »

1) they would have said if it was guns. Why say no explosives and not mention guns.
2) why use a hatchet if he had a gun?

1) Would they have, and why would they have, less stress will impress in an election year would it not?
2) Most likely education wasn't the highest level with this gob****e going in to a heavy policed area even with a gun/guns he wasn't going to last longer than a handful or minutes with heavily armed soldiers.

maryishere

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Will we ever find out what was in the 2 backpacks the lad was carrying or will it be left to fake news organisations to speculate on and increase the hate? They said it was not explosives but didn't say it wasn't guns.

"Authorities did, however, discover paint bombs in his bag, Le Figaro reports."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4187460/Lovre-evacuated-Paris.html

Billy86

maryishere wrote: »

That was Mary63, not me. in post 241. Get your facts right. I pointed out I was talking to a couple who sent their kids to a Gaelscoil because they said they did not want - in their words or words to that effect - too many coloureds or blacks in their kids classes. Fact.

I do not know why you are confused, of course there are plenty of coloured and black people who are Christian.

My facts are perfectly in order.

Mary was talking about Muslims and said "They will swarm the local schools so white Irish people will then send their children elsewhere" - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102521621&postcount=241

You replied "that happens already" to that specific sentence in the same post as your black kid anecdote - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102521721&postcount=244

So why did you bring up black (and 'coloured' to be all 1930s) kids as proof "that's already happening" in a post talking about Muslim kids "swarming the local schools"?

Atlantic Dawn

maryishere wrote: »

"Authorities did, however, discover paint bombs in his bag, Le Figaro reports."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4187460/Lovre-evacuated-Paris.html

Perefect candidate to be wiped out for being an idiot.

maryishere

Billy86 wrote: »

So why did you bring up black (and 'coloured' to be all 1930s) kids as proof "that's already happening" in a post talking about Muslim kids "swarming the local schools"?

Because thats de talk from some of de parents in de Gaelscoil old chap, don't shoot the messenger....and I did not use the term "swarming the local schools".

Billy86

maryishere wrote: »

Because thats de talk from some of de parents in de Gaelscoil old chap, don't shoot the messenger....and I did not use the term "swarming the local schools".

You singled out Mary63's sentence in her post about Muslims "swarming the local schools" to say "it's already happening" - yes, you were saying with the that Muslims are already swarming the local schools. You can try claiming you didn't all you want, but it's right there.

maryishere wrote: »

Mary63 wrote: »

.They will swarm the local schools so white Irish people will then send their children elsewhere

Thats happening already.
I was talking to a couple who send their kids to a Gaelscoil and the reason they said they did was "because they were much less coloureds / blacks there. " Just saying.

languagenerd

Mary63 wrote: »

We already have schools in Dublin where there isn't a single white irish child.

Which schools are these? I know a lot of teachers in Dublin (incl subs who are in a different school every week) and I've never heard of a school with zero Irish pupils...

Mary63

Why do the lefty type refer to murdering terrorists as lads, is that not a bit derogatory, when do you stop referring to grown adult men as lads.

Lad implies something a bit dim but harmless, these muslims are not harmless, they have no respect for life, not ben their own so they will happily detonate bombs in backpacks.The soldiers in the louvre took no chances, that is the French way and it works, threaten a french citizens security with a machete and you will most likely end up dead, you can't say you haven't been warned.

Mary63

They are in the inner city,I can't remember exactly where.The principal was a lefty type, she was saying integration is wonderful but then she had no white Irish children in the school at all or very few.You can bet your life her own children were in some Gaelscoil somewhere else.

I wouldn't enrol my children in a school were they were the only child who could speak english, imagine feeling like a non national in your own country.There are far too many non nationals living in this small Island now and we can't afford to take anymore in.Its the people struggling on very low incomes and on social welfare and queuing for surgery in public hospitals who are paying the price, not the likes of the Irish Times readers who think multi culturalism is great.

maryishere

languagenerd wrote: »

Which schools are these?

google is your friend. Hint: "In 20 schools more than two-thirds of pupils came from a non-Irish background, while in two Dublin schools nine in every 10 pupils came from an immigrant background in 2013-2014."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/college-open-days

Atlantic Dawn

Mary63 wrote: »

They are in the inner city,I can't remember exactly where.The principal was a lefty type, she was saying integration is wonderful but then she had no white Irish children in the school at all or very few.You can bet your life her own children were in some Gaelscoil somewhere else.

I wouldn't enrol my children in a school were they were the only child who could speak english, imagine feeling like a non national in your own country.There are far too many non nationals living in this small Island now and we can't afford to take anymore in.Its the people struggling on very low incomes and on social welfare and queuing for surgery in public hospitals who are paying the price, not the likes of the Irish Times readers who think multi culturalism is great.

No children should be in the standard Irish school system unless they can speak fluent Irish or English, complete waste of resources having non speakers in a class.

Mary63

Mary63 wrote: »

.We already have schools in Dublin where there isn't a single white irish child.

I heard recently that there are hardly any white Irish students in Bolton Street DIT now, is this true does anyone know.

So?
Do you believe white Irish people to be some kind of super race? Above everyone else?

maryishere

maryishere wrote: »

A few generations ago, who would have thought that half of Leeds / Bradford would be muslim? Or that there would be more muslims in France than there are human beings living on the Island of Ireland.

I know right? I mean it used to be majority Irish living in Leeds, then these Muslims come along.....
Stealing our English cities.....

FTA69

Mary63 wrote: »

Everywhere in Europe the Muslims live turns into a ghetto, look at Paris, Sweden,Brussels, the Uk, huge areas of deprivation caused in the main by muslims having families too big to provide for.If we get large numbers into Ireland they will set up ghettoes in West Dublin or in a similar area of disadvantage.They will swarm the local schools so white Irish people will then send their children elsewhere, its called the white flight.We already have schools in Dublin where there isn't a single white irish child.

I heard recently that there are hardly any white Irish students in Bolton Street DIT now, is this true does anyone know.

Hold on, is it blacks or Muslims we're hating now?

Timberrrrrrrr

FTA69 wrote: »

Hold on, is it blacks or Muslims we're hating now?

I don't think it matters to some posters, the mask slips daily.

b_mac2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I don't think it matters to some posters, the mask slips daily.

Wie geht es mit dem Deutsch voran, Spooferrrrrrr?

Timberrrrrrrr

b_mac2 wrote: »

Wie geht es mit dem Deutsch voran, Spooferrrrrrr?

Shhhhhhhh child, you bored me now :rolleyes:

Collie D

So any evidence of these schools without white Irish children?

So far the only proof was a link to college open days from one Mary and an "I hear there are no white Irish in Bolton Street DIT" from the other. Which IF it were true (and it's not) would probably contradict earlier assertions that non white immigrants aren't inclined towards education.

Compelling evidence of an invasion.

Butters1979

It's funny that the skin colour of the attacker was exceptionally important a few days ago when the apologists were trying to claim the attacker was white.

Butters1979

Collie D wrote: »

So any evidence of these schools without white Irish children?

So far the only proof was a link to college open days from one Mary and an "I hear there are no white Irish in Bolton Street DIT" from the other. Which IF it were true (and it's not) would probably contradict earlier assertions that non white immigrants aren't inclined towards education.

Compelling evidence of an invasion.

Do they gather statistics on skin colour in school? I hope not.

maryishere

Collie D wrote: »

So any evidence of these schools without white Irish children?

See post 274, complete with a link to your Irish Times.

""In 20 schools more than two-thirds of pupils came from a non-Irish background, while in two Dublin schools nine in every 10 pupils came from an immigrant background in 2013-2014".

Since the article was written I believe in one of the Dublin schools it is now 95% came from an immigrant background instead of the 90%. One of the teachers sends hers to a Gaelscoil instead.

The Backwards Man

Says a lot about the teacher alright.

maryishere

maryishere wrote: »

See post 274, complete with a link to your Irish Times.

""In 20 schools more than two-thirds of pupils came from a non-Irish background, while in two Dublin schools nine in every 10 pupils came from an immigrant background in 2013-2014".

Since the article was written I believe in one of the Dublin schools it is now 95% came from an immigrant background instead of the 90%. One of the teachers sends hers to a Gaelscoil instead.

Non Irish doesn't mean not white. So what if they are non Irish?
What is the problem with immigrant children going to school?

Collie D

maryishere wrote: »

See post 274, complete with a link to your Irish Times.

""In 20 schools more than two-thirds of pupils came from a non-Irish background, while in two Dublin schools nine in every 10 pupils came from an immigrant background in 2013-2014".

Since the article was written I believe in one of the Dublin schools it is now 95% came from an immigrant background instead of the 90%. One of the teachers sends hers to a Gaelscoil instead.

If that's what your link shows you fair enough but when I opened it there was just a list of college open days. One of us is having tech problems.

What does an immigrant background mean anyway? Polish parents but born in Ireland and immersed in a bilingual environment would be the first thing that springs to my mind. And should only Irish kids be educated here?

maryishere

Collie D wrote: »

If that's what your link shows you fair enough but when I opened it there was just a list of college open days. One of us is having tech problems.

Apologies, do not know how that happened. Here is the correct link:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/we-have-allowed-segregation-to-happen-1.2109973

Collie D

Butters1979 wrote: »

Do they gather statistics on skin colour in school? I hope not.

I'm only putting the question to the poster(s) who made the claim

maryishere

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Says a lot about the teacher alright.

Would you send your kids to a school where over 90% of the pupils were immigrants? Where kids talk among themselves in their own languages, and other parents at the school gate explain the virtues of islam to you and invite you to their mosque? Yes, I'm sure you would.

languagenerd

maryishere wrote: »

google is your friend. Hint: "In 20 schools more than two-thirds of pupils came from a non-Irish background, while in two Dublin schools nine in every 10 pupils came from an immigrant background in 2013-2014."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/college-open-days

I did google and I did find that Irish Times article, but it doesn't tell of any school "with not one single white Irish child" as was claimed. And one of the schools named in the article, with 9 out of 10 pupils of immigrant-extraction, is a fairly small Catholic school, so that can't be used to back up a claim that Muslims are creating ghettos here.

It's possible that it *could* happen but it isn't happening at the moment and it's a little disingenuous to use those statistics that way.

maryishere

maryishere wrote: »

Would you send your kids to a school where over 90% of the pupils were immigrants? Where kids talk among themselves in their own languages, and other parents at the school gate explain the virtues of islam to you and invite you to their mosque? Yes, I'm sure you would.

Lol
How many of these schools have you attended then Mary?
I would have no problem sending my children to school with children from other countries. At least my kids won't grow up to be bigoted

TallyRand

Grayson wrote: »

And to be fair, he had brown skin and that was his own fault.

Next time there is a 7/7 type incident in a city you're in then you run over and say hello to a brown skin man with a backpack running while armed police are shouting stop. I'd love to see your reaction.

That Brazilian mans death was a tragedy, no one would be happy that it happened, however it is understandable that it happened.

Why do you think the police shot him?

fullstop

Widdershins wrote: »

That's fine so. Let the women in Paris be kept out of sight because of something in Ireland 30 years ago. Sexism is alive and well and thinly veiled by faux religious 'tolerance'.

Outraged level...100?

I can't actually believe you've managed to turn a thread about a terrorist attacking a soldier into yet another fcuking gender mud-slinging match :rolleyes: Are there not enough threads you can and do that on already?

Timberrrrrrrr

maryishere wrote: »

Would you send your kids to a school where over 90% of the pupils were immigrants? Where kids talk among themselves in their own languages, and other parents at the school gate explain the virtues of islam to you and invite you to their mosque? Yes, I'm sure you would.

They don't "send" their kids to these schools because they want to the kids have to go to these schools because of the ridiculous enrollment policies of schools.

From your own link

“Newer schools, set up to cater for burgeoning populations . . . generally are the schools that have vacant spaces, creating a situation where new schools have much higher percentages of newcomer children than older schools in the locality.

“This has implications for integration in local communities and in the country in general,” she says, adding that if newcomer families are not getting the opportunity to mix with Irish families through the school, this further limits the development of integrated communities.

maryishere

bubblypop wrote: »

Lol
How many of these schools have you attended then Mary?
I would have no problem sending my children to school with children from other countries. At least my kids won't grow up to be bigoted

I grew up with lots of kids, some of whom were from different backgrounds and nationalities, that is what helps make me broadminded and seeing things from other peoples point of view. In those days most were white though, I do not think decades ago there were schools in Ireland with over 90% of their pupils immigrants.
I also worked abroad for a number of years, where I integrated fully with people of different nationalities ( instead of immersing myself in Irish clubs / bars / pubs associations etc ).

The question remains: would you send your kids to a school with 95% immigrants, many of who are non-English speakers/ assylum seekers / muslim etc. A simple yes or no will suffice. Do you blame the teacher in the school for sending her own kids to a GaelScoil?

Collie D

maryishere wrote: »

Would you send your kids to a school where over 90% of the pupils were immigrants? Where kids talk among themselves in their own languages, and other parents at the school gate explain the virtues of islam to you and invite you to their mosque? Yes, I'm sure you would.

A school where 90% of pupils don't speak English would be an issue but nowhere in the article is that claimed.

As for being invited to a mosque this has only happened to me once and that was from an imam on the grounds of a mosque after I had started a conversation. I wasn't interested but definitely didn't feel like he was trying to convert me either. And no harm in him inviting me to find out for myself their culture/religion - I would imagine that's the job of all preachers

Timberrrrrrrr

maryishere wrote: »

I grew up with lots of kids, some of whom were from different backgrounds and nationalities, that is what helps make me broadminded and seeing things from other peoples point of view. In those days most were white though, I do not think decades ago there were schools in Ireland with over 90% of their pupils immigrants.
I also worked abroad for a number of years, where I integrated fully with people of different nationalities ( instead of immersing myself in Irish clubs / bars / pubs associations etc ).

The question remains: would you send your kids to a school with 95% immigrants, many of who are non-English speakers/ assylum seekers / muslim etc. A simple yes or no will suffice. Do you blame the teacher in the school for sending her own kids to a GaelScoil?

You have evidence to back this up?

maryishere

Collie D wrote: »

A school where 90% of pupils don't speak English would be an issue but nowhere in the article is that claimed.

As for being invited to a mosque this has only happened to me once

All very nice and dandy but you have not answered the question: The question remains: would you send your kids to a school with 95% immigrants, many of who are non-English speakers/ assylum seekers / muslim etc. A simple yes or no will suffice. Do you blame the teacher in the school for sending her own kids to a GaelScoil?

Mr.Crinklewood

GaelScoil!!!!.


Wouldn't send my children to one of those.


All those people talking a language that I don't understand.

Standing at the gates trying to get people to join THEIR "GAA Club".