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Alex Jones on Joe Rogan Experience

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    peteeeed wrote: »
    exactly one minute you cant trust the FBI or the CIA and the next he's quoting leaked FBI and CIA documents

    Is the point not that he doesnt trust what the CIA/FBI make public (and want you to believe) and give more credibility to the leaked documents (which are not for public consumption and are closer to the real truth)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Is the point not that he doesnt trust what the CIA/FBI make public (and want you to believe) and give more credibility to the leaked documents (which are not for public consumption and are closer to the real truth)?

    Not really , he's just the king of fake news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Hahaha this is right out there even by he standards



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    His face almost blends in with thecred stripe on the flag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    it looks now that he's right wing buddy is in power , there's a massive fight going on inside his head and its going to explode


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,920 ✭✭✭buried


    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 716 ✭✭✭jenny smith


    Jones is a clown with a big mouth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I just don't know what to make of him. Has anyone read a summary of the big things he got wrong over the years? I remember there being very few (y2k being one). Yes he goes on the rants but say the one about turning the frogs gay, he was citing a study and just worded it differently. There was nothing 'made up' about it iirc.

    I just don't dismiss everything he says is all and he is pretty funny


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    I just don't know what to make of him. Has anyone read a summary of the big things he got wrong over the years? I remember there being very few (y2k being one). Yes he goes on the rants but say the one about turning the frogs gay, he was citing a study and just worded it differently. There was nothing 'made up' about it iirc.

    I just don't dismiss everything he says is all and he is pretty funny

    Well as I've said on here already the problem is he needs 6 days worth of content so he pours out **** . He also has the ear of the president . He's a ultra right wing Christian now whereas years ago he was against the bush administration and the iraq war


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I just don't know what to make of him. Has anyone read a summary of the big things he got wrong over the years? I remember there being very few (y2k being one). Yes he goes on the rants but say the one about turning the frogs gay, he was citing a study and just worded it differently. There was nothing 'made up' about it iirc.

    I just don't dismiss everything he says is all and he is pretty funny
    The problem with Alex is he jumps to conclusions. He reads something and infers a secret cabal is behind it and able to carry out global manipulation perfectly. He's just searching for news that he can somehow attach to his madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    He's turning on his boy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Trump was told by his bosses to cut jonesy loose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It was only a matter of time before Trump came up against the real world and Alex Jones turned on him because he couldn't live in a the same fantasy land as Jones.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    http://www.mystatesman.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/travis-county-custody-case-jury-will-search-for-real-alex-jones/rnbWzMHnFCd5SOPgP3A34J/

    Interesting information about Jones:
    At a recent pretrial hearing, attorney Randall Wilhite told state District Judge Orlinda Naranjo that using his client Alex Jones’ on-air Infowars persona to evaluate Alex Jones as a father would be like judging Jack Nicholson in a custody dispute based on his performance as the Joker in “Batman.”
    “He’s playing a character,” Wilhite said of Jones. “He is a performance artist.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought that was obvious?
    More interesting in that he seems willing to admit it when it suits him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    The BS merchant responded with a video saying he's not a fake. His lawyer will love that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    More interesting in that he seems willing to admit it when it suits him.

    From what I have read his ex wants the kids who have been with him since the divorce and is using his rants on his show as evidence hes unsuitable as a father
    I guess the 40 grand a month he gives her is not enough
    Why did she let him have custody of the children in the divorce ?
    So I imagine his legal team advised him to do what ever it takes to look after his children
    I cant fault him for that I would do the same


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    From what I have read his ex wants the kids who have been with him since the divorce and is using his rants on his show as evidence hes unsuitable as a father
    I guess the 40 grand a month he gives her is not enough
    Why did she let him have custody of the children in the divorce ?
    So I imagine his legal team advised him to do what ever it takes to look after his children
    I cant fault him for that I would do the same
    So he's willing to lie and abandon the truth for personal gain?
    But he should be given the benefit of the doubt that he isn't lying and twisting the truth when he's on the air?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    King Mob wrote: »
    So he's willing to lie and abandon the truth for personal gain?
    But he should be given the benefit of the doubt that he isn't lying and twisting the truth when he's on the air?

    It's his kids!!!,wouldn't you say or do anything possible to keep your own children?.
    I would.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    It's his kids!!!,wouldn't you say or do anything possible to keep your own children?.
    I would.
    Including selling out the freedom of the American people like he spouts about on his show?
    Or could that be part of the act as well?

    I think it's bizarre that when an obvious propagandist and bull**** merchant admits that he is faking it, we have people who are arguing that he's somehow more trustworthy...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    King Mob wrote: »
    Including selling out the freedom of the American people like he spouts about on his show?
    Or could that be part of the act as well?

    I think it's bizarre that when an obvious propagandist and bull**** merchant admits that he is faking it, we have people who are arguing that he's somehow more trustworthy...

    He's only admitted he fakes it so he can keep custody of his kids....like I said I'd lie to keep my kids,no doubt about it,plenty of other ways to pick apart Alex Jones,this is not one of them IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Apparently he also asked for people to resoect his families privacy.
    There aren't enough irony meters in the workd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    So he's willing to lie and abandon the truth for personal gain?
    But he should be given the benefit of the doubt that he isn't lying and twisting the truth when he's on the air?


    Well he is not alone in that respect they all lie and twist thing to suit their position
    Funny I cant recall these type of guys calling for bombs to be dropped on people in Iraq Syria etc they always seem to oppose it
    Unlike the MSM that push out the lies to have these wars
    Watched one guy almost had an orgasm watching missiles being fired on Syria
    quoting lines from a Leonard Cohen song It was really something to see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,522 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Well he is not alone in that respect they all lie and twist thing to suit their position
    Funny I cant recall these type of guys calling for bombs to be dropped on people in Iraq Syria etc they always seem to oppose it
    Unlike the MSM that push out the lies to have these wars
    Watched one guy almost had an orgasm watching missiles being fired on Syria
    quoting lines from a Leonard Cohen song It was really something to see

    Alex Jones is not news like Reuters, AP, etc

    Even trashy tabloids like the Daily Mail are subject to certain press standards and watchdogs, and are held liable

    Alex Jones is a "performance artist", as his lawyer described

    Also there's no such thing as "MSM", its a lazy term conjured up by the likes of Alex Jones to discredit the entire spectrum of world media that often contradicts the dishonest narratives/lies/etc that he peddles


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Well he is not alone in that respect they all lie and twist thing to suit their position
    Funny I cant recall these type of guys calling for bombs to be dropped on people in Iraq Syria etc they always seem to oppose it
    Unlike the MSM that push out the lies to have these wars
    Watched one guy almost had an orgasm watching missiles being fired on Syria
    quoting lines from a Leonard Cohen song It was really something to see
    Go have a look at what Alex Jones has to say about the families of people killed in recent mass shootings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Go have a look at what Alex Jones has to say about the families of people killed in recent mass shootings.

    I have heard some of the stuff he says whats yout point ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Alex Jones is not news like Reuters, AP, etc

    Even trashy tabloids like the Daily Mail are subject to certain press standards and watchdogs, and are held liable

    Alex Jones is a "performance artist", as his lawyer described

    Also there's no such thing as "MSM", its a lazy term conjured up by the likes of Alex Jones to discredit the entire spectrum of world media that often contradicts the dishonest narratives/lies/etc that he peddles

    I recall reading about Reuters using doctored photos somewhere they had to admit it and fired the guy. so not above twisting things
    Anyway theres no such thing as !00% honest media its all propaganda and its lazy to just swallow what they spew out

    Lol I remember the dick on CNN telling people not to read wikileaks its illegal
    But its ok for them to do so and they will tell us what they say in them:D
    Pure comedy by MSM


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    I have heard some of the stuff he says whats yout point ?

    That if you are so sensitive about how you perceive some news reader reacting to war, then surely you should have some opinion about Alex Jones accusing freshly grieving parents of being actors. Or some thoughts about how he's tacitly encouraging the harassment those parents get by his followers.

    All ok by your books?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    That if you are so sensitive about how you perceive some news reader reacting to war, then surely you should have some opinion about Alex Jones accusing freshly grieving parents of being actors. Or some thoughts about how he's tacitly encouraging the harassment those parents get by his followers.

    All ok by your books?

    your assuming I believe or agree with every thing i hear from him or others I dont
    Do you agree that MSM outlets pushed for the bombing of these countries
    while he and others like him rightly opposed it ?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    your assuming I believe or agree with every thing i hear from him or others I dont
    No I'm not assuming that.

    It doesn't matter whether you believe those claims or not. He still made them.

    Do you think it's ok for him to accuse grieving families of being involved in a conspiracy?
    (How about if we add in the fact that he does so knowing it's not true?)
    Do you think it's ok for him to tacitly encourage and condone these families being harassed by the people who do believe his claims?
    enno99 wrote: »
    Do you agree that MSM outlets pushed for the bombing of these countries
    while he and others like him rightly opposed it ?
    No I don't agree with that statement because it's overly simplistic.

    I think what Jones does is far worse than "orgasming over missiles" and quoting Leonard Cohen. And being opposed to bombing Syria (for all of the wrong reasons) doesn't excuse all of the other **** he does.
    Attacking grieving parents right after a tragedy is just one example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    No I don't agree with that statement because it's overly simplistic.

    .

    Not much point in any further discussion so your avoiding the question


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Not much point in any further discussion so your avoiding the question
    I directly addressed your question in clear terms. You even quoted it.

    I don't agree with your statment because it's overly simplistic.

    I don't agree with the notion of "MSM" as a singular entity. Some people in the media opposed dropping bombs in Syria, others didn't. Some outlets put a positive spin on it, others didn't.

    I don't agree that any media outlets "pushed for it" and I don't think I would agree with your definition for that term.

    I don't agree that Jones and other alt-media types opposed actions like these for the right reasons, so I wouldn't use the term "rightly".

    I don't agree that Jones opposing military actions makes him any better than the people in the "MSM" who didn't, given his other behaviour, claims and beliefs. Jones has no issue advocating violence when it suits him.

    To use your argument, you don't see the mainstream media accusing grieving families of being crisis actors and encouraging people to harass these families, do you?

    Now, as for avoiding questions... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    I directly addressed your question in clear terms. You even quoted it.

    I don't agree with your statment because it's overly simplistic.

    I don't agree with the notion of "MSM" as a singular entity. Some people in the media opposed dropping bombs in Syria, others didn't. Some outlets put a positive spin on it, others didn't.

    I don't agree that any media outlets "pushed for it" and I don't think I would agree with your definition for that term.

    I don't agree that Jones and other alt-media types opposed actions like these for the right reasons, so I wouldn't use the term "rightly".

    I don't agree that Jones opposing military actions makes him any better than the people in the "MSM" who didn't, given his other behaviour, claims and beliefs. Jones has no issue advocating violence when it suits him.

    To use your argument, you don't see the mainstream media accusing grieving families of being crisis actors and encouraging people to harass these families, do you?

    Now, as for avoiding questions... :rolleyes:

    Thanks but the question was about counties Iraq Syria etc but you knew that


    heres my earlier reply to you question

    your assuming I believe or agree with every thing I hear from him or others I dont


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Thanks but the question was about counties Iraq Syria etc but you knew that
    That doesn't really make much of a difference to any of my points...:confused:
    enno99 wrote: »
    heres my earlier reply to you question

    your assuming I believe or agree with every thing I hear from him or others I dont
    Ok then, does this mean that you think that it's not ok to accuse families of being in a conspiracy? Because your wording is very vague and confusing.

    If this is the case, then what exactly is your point? How is he any better than what you think the MSM is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    That doesn't really make much of a difference to any of my points...:confused:

    Ok then, does this mean that you think that it's not ok to accuse families of being in a conspiracy? Because your wording is very vague and confusing.

    If this is the case, then what exactly is your point? How is he any better than what you think the MSM is?

    Again i will direct you to my earlier answer

    Well he is not alone in that respect they all lie and twist thing to suit their position


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Again i will direct you to my earlier answer

    Well he is not alone in that respect they all lie and twist thing to suit their position
    I'll take that as a yes then. You agree that it's not ok for him to make those accusations and encourage harassment.

    Then again, I ask, what's the point you were trying to make since Alex Jones is as bad as the MSM?

    I'd argue that him firing off accusations again grieving families that directly leads to them being stalked and harassed (and him directly profiting off that) is far worse than a news reader quoting Leonard Cohen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »

    I'd argue that him firing off accusations again grieving families that directly leads to them being stalked and harassed (and him directly profiting off that) is far worse than a news reader quoting Leonard Cohen.[/QUOTE

    Really you know it was reported four children among others were killed in that attack

    ’m told that the key evidence was satellite surveillance of the area, a body of material that U.S. intelligence analysts were reviewing late last week even after the Trump-ordered bombardment of 59 Tomahawk missiles that, according to Syrian media reports, killed seven or eight Syrian soldiers and nine civilians, including four children.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/12/trump-withholds-syria-sarin-evidence/


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Really you know it was reported four children among others were killed in that attack
    Ok?
    Did the newsreader you saw "orgasming" have anything to do with that?

    Did the newsreader in question then accuse the parents of those kids of being crisis actors?

    Are you upset with the newsreader for trivialising those deaths by orgasming and quoting Leonard Cohen?
    Are you accusing him of using those deaths for personal gain?

    Cause, again, pretty much exactly what Alex Jones does when he jumps on school shootings.

    (And remember, peace loving Alex Jones is very much against gun control and uses tragedies like these to invent conspiracies about the government trying to take guns away...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,522 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    I recall reading about Reuters using doctored photos somewhere they had to admit it and fired the guy. so not above twisting things

    Its an agency that deals with thousands of photos, it's not implausible to believe that there has been cases with fake or doctored photos at some stage

    During the Iraq war, doctored photos were sent to a UK newspaper showing UK troops abusing Iraqi POWs, the newspaper mistakenly published the photos and the editor lost his job. Torture was happening to POWs, but the images were doctored, and this was not spotted by the editors

    These organisations are not infallible
    Anyway theres no such thing as !00% honest media its all propaganda and its lazy to just swallow what they spew out

    To conclude that because not every outlet is 100% accurate all of the time, then it all must be propaganda does not make any sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,522 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Really you know it was reported four children among others were killed in that attack

    According to Syrian state media - and these reports were not verified

    If these people died, its a tragedy, but Assad is accountable and ultimately responsible for the deaths. Whether or not you agree with Trump's actions, Assad's forces should not be deliberately targeting men, women and children with chemical weapons and barrel bombs

    Declaring credible and accountable multiple corroborating independent sources to be all "propaganda/fake", whilst at the same time supporting information from a singular state controlled outlet which is well known for it's propaganda is contradictory

    Being selectively concerned or emotional about indirect deaths caused by coalition attacks, whilst ignoring (or worse defending) deliberate attacks by a regime's forces is also contradictory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Its an agency that deals with thousands of photos, it's not implausible to believe that there has been cases with fake or doctored photos at some stage
    The definition of doctored can be quite wide sometimes too. That flat earth conspiracy for example includes color correction (which every photo must go through) and stitching photos together as photo editing.

    It's very hard to spot a doctored photo if it's done properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok?
    Did the newsreader you saw "orgasming" have anything to do with that?

    Did the newsreader in question then accuse the parents of those kids of being crisis actors?

    Are you upset with the newsreader for trivialising those deaths by orgasming and quoting Leonard Cohen?
    Are you accusing him of using those deaths for personal gain?

    Cause, again, pretty much exactly what Alex Jones does when he jumps on school shootings.

    (And remember, peace loving Alex Jones is very much against gun control and uses tragedies like these to invent conspiracies about the government trying to take guns away...)

    Why do you want to turn this into a Sandy Hook topic theres plenty of threads about it

    That was just one instance of they way the promote wars for their pay masters they are far from journalists
    But lets ignore all the other lies they trot out there is an abundance of evidence of it on the internet if you care to look from CNN FOX ABC etc

    The Washington Post Co. has agreed to sell its flagship newspaper to Amazon.com founder and chief executive Jeff Bezos for $250 million

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jeff-bezos-on-post-purchase/2013/08/05/e5b293de-fe0d-11e2-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.e29d767fd610

    And he added that the company is becoming a “major vendor” to the U.S. government, particularly in the realm of web storage. The most prominent example: The CIA recently reached a $600 million deal with Amazon to build its cloud storage system

    http://fair.org/home/amazon-wilkileaks-the-washington-post-and-the-cia/

    Strange bedfellows but dont worry the paper will be critical of the CIA if they step out of line :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    According to Syrian state media - and these reports were not verified

    , Assad's forces should not be deliberately targeting men, women and children with chemical weapons and barrel bombs


    Yep thats the bull**** being peddlled alright even though it defies any logic that he would
    didnt Trump a few days before say he just wants to get rid of ISIS and Syrians could determine their own future and hes not interested in regime change


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The definition of doctored can be quite wide sometimes too. That flat earth conspiracy for example includes color correction (which every photo must go through) and stitching photos together as photo editing.

    It's very hard to spot a doctored photo if it's done properly.

    I think the guy who was fired worked there for ten years so you think there could be lots more that people didnt spot :)


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Why do you want to turn this into a Sandy Hook topic theres plenty of threads about it
    I'm not, I'm just pointing out that it's one really ****ty thing Jones has done. And while you are quick to attack what you're calling the MSM, you don't seem willing at all to acknowledge that Jones is in the wrong here.

    You provided an example of some nameless news reader who you described as orgasming over Syria. I don't see how this is at all equivalent to what Jones did in relation to EVERY shooting in the last few years.
    Jones is worse than how you think the MSM is.

    But you seem to be giving him a pass.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    I'm not, I'm just pointing out that it's one really ****ty thing Jones has done. And while you are quick to attack what you're calling the MSM, you don't seem willing at all to acknowledge that Jones is in the wrong here.

    You provided an example of some nameless news reader who you described as orgasming over Syria. I don't see how this is at all equivalent to what Jones did in relation to EVERY shooting in the last few years.
    Jones is worse than how you think the MSM is.

    But you seem to be giving him a pass.

    But im not I have repeatedly stated I dont agree or believe everything he says
    Whats so hard to understand about that


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    But im not I have repeatedly stated I dont agree or believe everything he says
    Whats so hard to understand about that
    It's avoiding the issue and dodging the question.

    You haven't said specifically what you think about how he accuses grieving families and tacitly sicks his followers on them.
    You have stated that you don't agree or believe his with his claims.

    But the point is about whether or not it's a ok thing to have done.
    Do you think it's an ok thing for him to have done?

    I am unclear of your opinion about this because your answer is vague and indirect to this question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    It's avoiding the issue and dodging the question.

    You haven't said specifically what you think about how he accuses grieving families and tacitly sicks his followers on them.
    You have stated that you don't agree or believe his with his claims.

    But the point is about whether or not it's a ok thing to have done.
    Do you think it's an ok thing for him to have done?

    I am unclear of your opinion about this because your answer is vague and indirect to this question.

    Its meant to be unclear because I dont want to discuss Sandy Hook and get drawn into a long and futile exchange which seems to be what you would like


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