Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2019/2020

CSF

Jaysus, remember having to watch Scott Hogan.

Corholio

In for Butland apparently. Hinted at by Alan Nixon earlier and Birmingham Mail reporting it now.

I think he'd cost mad money, young English keeper etc. He's a talented keeper no doubt though.

basillarkin

Corholio wrote: »

In for Butland apparently. Hinted at by Alan Nixon earlier and Birmingham Mail reporting it now.

I think he'd cost mad money, young English keeper etc. He's a talented keeper no doubt though.

I like butland, a definite improvement on what we have, what kind of figures are been mentioned?

kilburn

basillarkin wrote:

I like butland, a definite improvement on what we have, what kind of figures are been mentioned?

Just says Stoke are looking for "Big money" but villa will test their resolve.

A English keeper probably looking at £15-20m

artanevilla

Take Butland all day long.

LeBash

rebelomar wrote: »

I think in reference to Tammy and Axel then we won't know or give up till last minute of window. My guess is they would both like to try and break into their respective club first eleven (hard to blame them). Who each club sign or don't will decide their availability imo.

I would predict we will keep our two PL loan places open until then.

We'll know very shortly. If neither signs a new contract soon, they're up for grabs. No way either stays at their club as a first team player without signing a new deal.

CSF

He’s only recently turned 26 too so it would be a good investment I think.

Corholio

Bit of a shake up in the academy as well. Didn't realise all the players that came through West Brom academy until I saw West Brom fans mentioning some. They seem quite gutted about it.

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1138372472636608512?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

LeBash

Man U looking to get Maguire in is the word and willing to pay 70 million. Lets hope its true and 1 more then it's a banker Axel doesnt stay there.

kilburn

LeBash wrote:

Man U looking to get Maguire in is the word and willing to pay 70 million. Lets hope its true and 1 more then it's a banker Axel doesnt stay there.

They had a bid rejected for Wan Bissaka as well so they are looking to bring in defenders

LeBash

kilburn wrote: »

They had a bid rejected for Wan Bissaka as well so they are looking to bring in defenders

Thought he was a full back?

CucaFace

Corholio wrote: »

Bit of a shake up in the academy as well. Didn't realise all the players that came through West Brom academy until I saw West Brom fans mentioning some. They seem quite gutted about it.

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1138372472636608512?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

This is badly needed

One of the greatest myths in English football is about the quality of the Aston Villa youth system. Very few quality players ever produced from it over all the years, when it should have the pick of the best talent from the midlands area (an area with a huge population).

You only have to look at how many players could actually make into the side an make any impact during our 3 seasons in the second division.

LeBash

CucaFace wrote: »

This is badly needed

One of the greatest myths in English football is about the quality of the Aston Villa youth system. Very few quality players ever produced from it over all the years, when it should have the pick of the best talent from the midlands area (an area with a huge population).

You only have to look at how many players could actually make into the side an make any impact during our 3 seasons in the second division.

I cant think of many players West Brom brought through that have been top players. I've said it a dozen times here, they need first team games if they are ever going to make it and in the PL years we've allowed Hendrie, Barry, JJ, Gabby, Davis, Albrighton, Clark, Vassell, Baker and Grealish time, maybe a few more. Clark, Baker, Barry, Albrighton were all forced on us, it wasnt thinking of development.

We were just lucky tactics Tim was in charge as Grealish was coming of age.

Corholio

A lot of young players simply haven't been good enough for first team football at any of those given times. Just by first team football I can't think of many who were young, not given senior football or very little and gone on to be very good elsewhere with playing first team football. The like of Daniel Johnson would be one in the Championship, but that was made even worse because it was for only £50,000.

CSF

Corholio wrote: »

A lot of young players simply haven't been good enough for first team football at any of those given times. Just by first team football I can't think of many who were young, not given senior football or very little and gone on to be very good elsewhere with playing first team football. The like of Daniel Johnson would be one in the Championship, but that was made even worse because it was for only £50,000.

That is a damning indictment of the academy in any case.

matrim

We kept too many of the players in the U23 team for too long instead of sending them out on loan earlier. The fact that O'Hare is 21 and only going on his first loan this year is criminal. Similar things happened with a good few of those players. We were doing well in the youth league but that was because the other teams had their better players on loan playing proper competitive football.

artanevilla

The 23s system is brutal, not competitive at all.

Corholio

Pursuing Kalvin Phillips according to John Percy. Would be a really good signing imo, in a position the team is badly short of both players and quality. A young defensive midfielder would be a welcome change.

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1138922311602642946?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

CucaFace

Corholio wrote: »

Pursuing Kalvin Phillips according to John Percy. Would be a really good signing imo, in a position the team is badly short of both players and quality. A young defensive midfielder would be a welcome change.

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1138922311602642946?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

Would be a great signing and for a position badly needed also.

sc86

Spurs away first game - tricky start!

Sat @ 5.30 and on sky

Sono

Happy with the fixtures for next season, first couple of months are decent, a lot of very winnable games in there.

sc86

sc86 wrote: »

Spurs away first game - tricky start!

Sat @ 5.30 and on sky

see ye then lads

welcome back

artanevilla

At the moment we are probably the weakest team in the League. Finished 5th in the Championship and 20 points of the top. Spurs will be a rude awakening.

LeBash

artanevilla wrote: »

At the moment we are probably the weakest team in the League. Finished 5th in the Championship and 20 points of the top. Spurs will be a rude awakening.

If Smith had a full season, 2 fit centre backs and Grealish not being out for months would have been a very different picture. Even 2 of the 3 would have probably got us an automatic promotion.

Esse85

Spurs could be in turmoil themselves come August.

I'd take Philips, I'm sure Grealish would be happy to have him too.

Corholio

Some possible big news. The same journalist who broke the Benteke signing.

First Brazilian to play for Villa?

https://twitter.com/HLNinEngeland/status/1139155671142805504?s=19

Deebles McBeebles

Looks like he'll do well in PL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Moraes

artanevilla

Sleeve sponsor announced. Another gambling company.

Patser

artanevilla wrote: »

At the moment we are probably the weakest team in the League. Finished 5th in the Championship and 20 points of the top. Spurs will be a rude awakening.

At the moment we are the weakest team no doubt, we've no back line signed except for Elmo , new untried French RB and Chester, no DM unless you count Hourihane, El Ghazi and Green are our wingers, Kodjia Davis and Hogan our strikers, and we're also unsure of our keeper. Only players we're sure of is Grealish and McGinn. Oh forgot Jota

But there's a lot if hope that'll improve

listermint

artanevilla wrote: »

Sleeve sponsor announced. Another gambling company.

Oh Joy.

Brian201888

A £22m Brazilian, how exciting!

Corholio

Looks like it's true! Percy reporting it now.

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1139180547136245760?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

Panrich

Corholio wrote: »

Looks like it's true! Percy reporting it now.

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1139180547136245760?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

Knowing our luck he’ll be denied a permit.

pavb2

Patser wrote: »

At the moment we are the weakest team no doubt, we've no back line signed except for Elmo , new untried French RB and Chester, no DM unless you count Hourihane, El Ghazi and Green are our wingers, Kodjia Davis and Hogan our strikers, and we're also unsure of our keeper. Only players we're sure of is Grealish and McGinn. Oh forgot Jota

But there's a lot if hope that'll improve

I think there's a lot of positives, there's definitely a feelgood factor around the club and momentum from promotion whereas teams like Brighton may struggle again next year also can Sheff Utd make the step up with less funds. than ourselves.

We have a long term plan, Smith seems to know what he's doing and the owners with their cash also have their heads screwed on but yes we need to do a Wolves rather than a Fulham or Cardiff.

Corholio

Officially confirmed now. Hopefully the permit isn't a roadblock.

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1139215994285678592?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

sc86

that signing has set the bar fairly high , im impressed

CSF

Not gonna pretend to know anything about the lad, and his goalscoring record doesn't set the world on fire, but he is 25 million and Brazilian, how can he be anything but a success?

GHOST MGG

Im hoping the fact that he is not a brazilian international player isnt going to hinder his work permit,maybe the 3 champions league games will stand to him

CSF

GHOST MGG wrote: »

Im hoping the fact that he is not a brazilian international player isnt going to hinder his work permit,maybe the 3 champions league games will stand to him

I don't think you're gonna see a 25 million signing struggle to get a work permit.


I imagine there are much lower profile South Americans playing in the league.

artanevilla

Brazilians tend to be absolutely class or absolutely brutal.

Hopefully this lad is up to scratch.

Patser

Interesting signing, could be another Benteke but I know nothing about him. Amazing how it's a done deal without any sort of rumours or speculation. Even when it was announced today be a Belgian journalist, few believed him.

I'd say that rules out Tammy returning though - unless Chelsea will take 15 million for him. I just can't see 2 €25 million strikers signed.

Patser

Funny that when I Google this lad, one of 1st bits of news is Newcastle saying it'll be a big blow not to get hom, but sure no one else is really looking at him....dated yesterday. They'll be a bit shocked today

https://newcastletoons.com/2019/06/12/missing-wesley-moraes-major-blow-newcastle/

CSF

Patser wrote: »

Interesting signing, could be another Benteke but I know nothing about him. Amazing how it's a done deal without any sort of rumours or speculation. Even when it was announced today be a Belgian journalist, few believed him.

I'd say that rules out Tammy returning though - unless Chelsea will take 15 million for him. I just can't see 2 €25 million strikers signed.

Well Fulham made 3 signings for 22 million plus last season, and they're neither selling out a 40K+ stadium, and I believe their owners aren't as well off as ours, so with the crazy PL money, I do not believe this transfer is us breaking the bank, nor do I believe it will remain the transfer record by the end of the window.

Corholio

It seems the potential takeover and/or Rafa's contract slowed up things for them and Villa moved ahead. Don't know anything about him either. He was twice named Belgian young player of the year. Will be great to get the striker in early in pre season to get up to speed with tactics and whats asked of him.

It's a transfer that just shows things can be kept 100% quiet so rumours, paper talk will always be just that. Hopefully he's more Benteke than Bent.

matrim

I'd he our record signing now?

sc86

surely get in top 4 now

Patser

Of course, and don't call me Shirley

GHOST MGG

21m for butland?? no way..i would rather etheridge for 10m..and im fairly sure we will get tammy closer to end of season as well

Panrich

GHOST MGG wrote: »

21m for butland?? no way..i would rather etheridge for 10m..and im fairly sure we will get tammy closer to end of season as well

Either are an improvement on Steer so if the powers that be ultimately make the call for Butland at the price, then we've got to get behind it and trust that it's for the best as they will have a lot more information available to them. For instance, Butland already lives in the area.

Corholio

Some whispers on Villa forums that Butland deal might be close or practically 'done'. Ampadu linked as well from Chelsea on loan.