Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017 *Warnings see OP-updated 09/05/17*

Arne_Saknussem

wandatowell wrote: »

I think they might if they sell Alexis first. Risky.

If they managed to bring in Lemar & Goretzka alongside Lacazette whilst flogging Sanchez to PSG & renewing Ozil i'd call it a succesful summer.

More Arsenal's style to just replace Sanchez with Mahrez and leave it at that though.

tayto lover

greendom wrote: »

2 quality players have been brought in. It would be good to get business done early but there are still 40 days left in the transfer window. It's a bit early for the misery just yet imo

It's not misery, it's reality.
We have come to expect exactly what we get.
There could be 440 days left but things just won't change until there's change at the top.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

It's not misery, it's reality.
We have come to expect exactly what we get.
There could be 440 days left but things just won't change until there's change at the top.

I suspect we're in for a lot more than 440 days of you wallowing in your reality.

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

I suspect we're in for a lot more than 440 days of you wallowing in your reality.

Hope it's not another 12 years like the previous 12 under Wenger:D

Wonda-Boy

Surely there is someone at PSG we can use as bait so we are not high and dry.....cash plus player.

Also wonder if there is any fire behind this article....

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10956520/barcelona-midfielder-rafinha-offered-to-arsenal

emergingstar

Few clubs in for wilshere
Hopefully we get a few bob for him

emergingstar

Sanchez reportedly in Paris sorting out his deal

When they come back with a bigger bid we should enquire about Draxlar

tayto lover

emergingstar wrote: »

Sanchez reportedly in Paris sorting out his deal

When they come back with a bigger bid we should enquire about Draxlar

That's exactly how we should deal with these matters.
If they want our best we should counter by looking for theirs.
The only problem is ours want out and theirs don't.

emmetlego

emergingstar wrote: »

Sanchez reportedly in Paris sorting out his deal

When they come back with a bigger bid we should enquire about Draxlar

I sincerely doubt that's true. He was tweeting pictures of himself yesterday in Chile and also, the source for the story is extremely unreliable. They also said we had signed Lemar and Mahrez 3 weeks ago!

Arne_Saknussem

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/888503662695387136

pudzey101

Rather walcott to go than the ox TBH ^^

Alfred Borden

Matic in return would be decent. Brutal passer but what we need.

highbury1913

pudzey101 wrote: »

Rather walcott to go than the ox TBH ^^

Definitely. That's Arsenal over the years. The players most fans want out get to stay and players we'd like to keep end up leaving. I don't even think it's in Wenger's thinking that he wants to sell Theo.

With my Arsenal hat off, I can't say I blame Ox for wanting to leave. Has Wenger really been good for his development? His stats for completing 90 mins has been poor and Wenger's constant substitutions of him, no run of games and changing of positions has hindered his development over the years.

I always thought this was going to be one of the downsides of Wenger remaining. Normally we read about managers telling players they're not part of their plans, in the case of Sanchez I think it's the other way around. Sanchez doesn't buy into the Wenger project going forward and I see it likewise with Chamberlain. He's looking at his future development at a particular moment when his career is at a crossroads. It's time now for a set position and regular football. I don't think he's developed anywhere near enough under Wenger for a player that has bags of talent and that I'm a big fan of.

Who really can blame Sanchez for leaving? Wenger has bought poorly over the years, Flamini, Debuchy, Gabriel, Perez, Chambers, and I don't think Mustafi has excelled as much either taking into account his poor 2nd half of the season. This along with only signing Cech in 2015 was ridiculous especially with plenty of money to push on and address key areas in the team. What kind of message does that send out to Sanchez about the ambition to succeed?

Players contract going down to a year left on contract like this has been a complete mismanagement on the part of Wenger and Gazidis.

Usually when players want to leave and it's quite clear to me Sanchez doesn't buy into Wenger's methods, presidents and owners of clubs act and get in a manager to get players back on side. Instead we hand out a new contract and leave it up to the manager when he wants to leave.

I'm not optimistic in the slightest going forward. I think we're in for a difficult two years and with the coming season, we will be well off the pace.

I won't miss the ox tbf.

pudzey101

Deleted User wrote: »

I won't miss the ox tbf.

I wont if we bring in Lemar just saying the ox puts more effort into his game than walcott

emergingstar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I won't miss the ox tbf.

Yeah don't get the uproar about ox

Average player at best

I think the main fear with the Ox is that we sell him and he suddenly becomes a good player.

Quazzie

Ox has potential, he always has. I think under a better manager he might just realise that potential.

wandatowell

161 games with 13 goals and 18 assists. Horrendous numbers. He's a squad player, handy to fill a gap when needed and also good for the homegrown rule.


https://www.whoscored.com/Players/84146/History/Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain

wandatowell

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

If they managed to bring in Lemar & Goretzka alongside Lacazette whilst flogging Sanchez to PSG & renewing Ozil i'd call it a succesful summer.

Yep agree 100%. Goretzka can do everything.

Starting lineup v Chelsea:

Arsenal: Ospina, Maitland-Niles, Mertesacker, Monreal, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, Xhaka, Bramall, Ozil, Iwobi, Lacazette.

emmetlego

Back 4 again?
Is it on the box anywhere??

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

Back 4 again?
Is it on the box anywhere??

It's on arsenal player

Just seen that City have confirmed the signing of Mendy. About £100m on 2 fullbacks this window for them. Crazy times.

Ivefoundgod

On ITV as well lads.

Pitch looks shocking

wonga77

Anything doing lads? Cant watch it

FixitFelix

Send bramall back to Bentley

emmetlego

1-0 Chelsea with 5 mins to half time. Willian scored a deserved goal, and have just got a 2nd through Batshui (sp?)

Very poor defensively. Maitland Niles some terrible decisions etc. Very very sloppy at the back.

Have we 3 or 4 at the back?

emmetlego

Deleted User wrote: »

Have we 3 or 4 at the back?

3 mostly, though it looked like we played a back 4 for periods. 3-0 now. Ball retention is crap and we are so leaky at the back. I enjoyed all the other pre-season games but this has been woeful!

emmetlego

Maitland Niles, Brammall, Xhaka, Laccazette all off at half time, Elneny, Coq Danny and Giroud on. Look a bit more purposeful this half in fairness.

Alfred Borden

emmetlego wrote: »

Maitland Niles, Brammall, Xhaka, Laccazette all off at half time

Xhaka was decent but the other three were woeful.

wawaman

We are miles away

FixitFelix

wawaman wrote: »

We are miles away

From what?

tayto lover

I don't see much value in playing mostly a B team in these games.
It's more to sell jerseys than anything else and give some of our players a run out.
The real action will start in August.

FixitFelix

FixitFelix wrote: »

From what?

Winning the Champion's League this season.

Alfred Borden

Holding and Mustafi to come back but with Gabriels injury and Chambers possible departure, I think we could do with another CB.

wawaman

FixitFelix wrote: »

From what?

From doing anything

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't see much value in playing mostly a B team in these games.
It's more to sell jerseys than anything else and give some of our players a run out.
The real action will start in August.

Most of our first teamers are getting a run, there's very few that aren't. It's a chance for some of the young guys to take their chance and impress. Can't say any really have.

We are woeful at stopping them counter-attacking.

FixitFelix

Basil3 wrote: »

Winning the Champion's League this season.

I thought he meant in a geographical sense

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

Most of our first teamers are getting a run, there's very few that aren't. It's a chance for some of the young guys to take their chance and impress. Can't say any really have.

We are woeful at stopping them counter-attacking.

Is this on tv?

Alfred Borden

Not based on todays game but he is right. We are miles off the title again this season unless we can get some top players in.

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

Is this on tv?

ITV and Arsenal player. Almost over though

Arne_Saknussem

A central midfielder is a must this window i think, a really good one.

Alfred Borden

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

A central midfielder is a must this window i think, a really good one.

The starting pair of Ramsey and Xhaka is grand imo. After that is terrible though.

Elneny - Average
Coquelin - Rubbish
Santi - Crock
Wilshere - Crock
Chamberlain - Better at RWB

Skylinehead

Lacazette and Kolasinac are a start. If Sanchez goes, we're back to square (minus) 1. No winger we can buy will be better. Not sure if we absolutely need a centre half, Mustafi-Koscielny-Monreal and Mertesacker-Gabriel-Holding should be enough. I'd like a midfielder too and maybe another RWB option, especially if Ox goes.

emmetlego

Elneny has been playing as a central defender this pre season though. More out of necessity I know, but Wenger has done this before!

Arne_Saknussem

Alfred Borden wrote: »

The starting pair of Ramsey and Xhaka is grand imo. After that is terrible though.

Elneny - Average
Coquelin - Rubbish
Santi - Crock
Wilshere - Crock
Chamberlain - Better at RWB

It's alright yeah, it could be a lot better. Add in Ramsey's injury record and Xhaka's card record and you're looking at a lot of playing time for Coquelin next season.

tayto lover

Skylinehead wrote: »

Lacazette and Kolasinac are a start. If Sanchez goes, we're back to square (minus) 1. No winger we can buy will be better. Not sure if we absolutely need a centre half, Mustafi-Koscielny-Monreal and Mertesacker-Gabriel-Holding should be enough. I'd like a midfielder too and maybe another RWB option, especially if Ox goes.

Mert in last year and Kos injury prone. I'd buy Van Dike who is big and much more commanding than what we have imo.
We do need midfielders as Santi and Wilshere are finished it seems and Ox wants out. Sanchez we just can't afford to lose.

Wonda-Boy

The passion and the communication from Conte is amazing, even winning 3-0 in a pre season he was constantly barking and applauding.

We need a creative mid so bad its not even funny stop all the ****e balls out to the wings for players who, lets face it are terrible crosser's of the ball and for striker(s) that are weak in the air due to height or whatever bar Olly.