Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017 *Warnings see OP-updated 09/05/17*

GavRedKing

Liverpool have lost this year usually to teams who give them the ball, they look clueless when they have to play football, by and large.

Its a pretty alien concept to the bigger sides but to beat the press they deploy, the smaller, relegation threatened side have hit long to a target man and get players running off him, its the best tactic it seems like.

Giroud or Welbeck partnered by Sanchez could have a field day against that backline.

WesternZulu

Interesting video on the stats behind Ozil:

brianregan09

So lads anything in the Allegri rumours ya reckon ?

jonneymendoza

Luis Enrique is now available end of the season.

Cant say arsenal dont have any choices for a wenger replacement..

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Luis Enrique is now available end of the season.

Cant say arsenal dont have any choices for a wenger replacement..

I'm going to predict the future.

August 2017: "NAME ONE MANAGER WE COULD GOT THAT WAS AVAILABLE"

jonneymendoza

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Luis Enrique is now available end of the season.

Cant say arsenal dont have any choices for a wenger replacement..

Id prefer Allegri or Simeone tbh. Enrique is a poor mans version of Pep (himself a bit overrated). Hard to really judge anyone who manages a team who happens to have the best player in the world (arguably) plus another two or more who are in the top ten. yes he still prepares them for games but Barca Pep for example is different to Bayern Pep or City Pep and i think Enrique would be in the same boat

Ol' Donie

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Luis Enrique is now available end of the season.

Cant say arsenal dont have any choices for a wenger replacement..

The lad who took Messi and his mates to PSG and got spanked?

wandatowell

keano_afc wrote: »

Imagine how annoyed we're going to be when we ship a couple of early goals and the heads drop.

Zero confidence in us getting anything at Anfield. We'll make them look like Brazil.

I had hoped that Arsene would have studied the games that Liverpool lost this season looking for any advantage but then I remembered he doesn't get too bothered about the opposition and sends his team out blind.

Ol' Donie

Ol' Donie wrote: »

The lad who took Messi and his mates to PSG and got spanked?

He did win a treble in his first season tbf. Id prefer to get away from this tiki taka shíte and tweak our game to add a bit more steel and directness.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He did win a treble in his first season tbf. Id prefer to get away from this tiki taka shíte and tweak our game to add a bit more steel and directness.

I'd hardly call what we've been playing 'tiki taka shíte'. It's definitely shíte, though.

Basil3

Basil3 wrote: »

I'd hardly call what we've been playing 'tiki taka ****e'. It's definitely ****e, though.

Fair point. id agree. Tiki taka is effective when applied correctly and when you have the likes of iniesta, xavi and messi on your team but in our case we were overplaying it with the likes of Gervinho and Chamakh.

gitzy16v

We used to play "tika taka" and still bottle it when the pressure was on.(accusations of waiting for the perfect goal??)
Now we play crap and still bottle it,flashes of brilliance but nothing more.

A change in attitude is needed imho, players are not playing to their full potential.

Gringo180

Luis Enrique no way. Jorge Sampaoli is doing a splendid job at Sevilla and was managing Chile before that, led them to there first ever Coppa America title. Plus he would have a great relationship with Sanchez. Ideal candidate imo.

Bobby Baccala

Gringo180 wrote: »

Luis Enrique no way. Jorge Sampaoli is doing a splendid job at Sevilla and was managing Chile before that, led them to there first ever Coppa America title. Plus he would have a great relationship with Sanchez. Ideal candidate imo.

Ideal candidate for Barca i hope you mean, can't see us being able to tempt him over. I'd love Bielsa if it wasn't for the fact he wouldn't last 3 months under a board like ours.

gitzy16v

Gringo180 wrote: »

Luis Enrique no way. Jorge Sampaoli is doing a splendid job at Sevilla and was managing Chile before that, led them to there first ever Coppa America title. Plus he would have a great relationship with Sanchez. Ideal candidate imo.

Great shout!!

Saw a rumour for interest in Sanchez FROM Sevilla funnily enough.

AdamD

Dunno about getting Luis Enrique but I'm fairly sure he plays nothing close to Tiki Taka.

I'd love a manager who doesn't use a specific 'system' and actually caters to his teams strengths and covers their deficiencies. Klopp/Guardiola/Wenger/Poccetino all getting caught out this year because they refuse to alter their tactics for specific games.

Minderbinder

Gringo180 wrote: »

Luis Enrique no way. Jorge Sampaoli is doing a splendid job at Sevilla and was managing Chile before that, led them to there first ever Coppa America title. Plus he would have a great relationship with Sanchez. Ideal candidate imo.

Does he speak any English? I know it's not exactly a prerequisite but it would be preferable. I couldn't see Arsenal going for someone that out of left field. It's not the same club that hired Wenger. They don't like to take risks and I think bringing in someone with a year of experience in Europe is just not viable.

I don't think Simeone is an option as I read that he reasserted his commitment to leading Atletico into their new stadium.

What would Arsenal fans think about Laurent Blanc? I wanted him to get the United job on more than one occasion.

sReq | uTeK

Its easy enough to get a result against pool these days. Most managees see Klopps pressing system for what it is.....a chance to play more direct. Pool have extreemly slow centre back and play to high up the pitch. Id be playing walcott and sanchez up high and looking for balls over the top. Let them have the ball. If theyre not winning it high up 3v3 or breaking then there is VERY little creativity in their team.

The reason liverpool have been good against rhe bigger teams is the bigger teams play them at their own game.

Play ****ter and you win. I know thats paradoxical but its the truth.

Liam McPoyle

Gringo180 wrote: »

Luis Enrique no way. Jorge Sampaoli is doing a splendid job at Sevilla and was managing Chile before that, led them to there first ever Coppa America title. Plus he would have a great relationship with Sanchez. Ideal candidate imo.

He (Sampaoli) is favourite for the Barca job according to SSN, Wenger is allegedly third favourite.

If id any faith in wegner to pick the right team and play the right tactics Id be loading up on Arsenal this weekend but I do not unfortunetly

ronjo

Deleted User wrote: »

If id any faith in wegner to pick the right team and play the right tactics Id be loading up on Arsenal this weekend but I do not unfortunetly

Thanks for sharing

Mickeroo

Gringo180 wrote: »

Luis Enrique no way. Jorge Sampaoli is doing a splendid job at Sevilla and was managing Chile before that, led them to there first ever Coppa America title. Plus he would have a great relationship with Sanchez. Ideal candidate imo.

I'd be shocked if Sanchez is still an Arsenal player at the end of the summer unfortunately.

ronjo

Mickeroo wrote: »

I'd be shocked if Sanchez is still an Arsenal player at the end of the summer unfortunately.

I agree...... probably only way is to get Sampaoli but as others have said, that seems unlikely.

Quazzie

Mickeroo wrote: »

I'd be shocked if Sanchez is still an Arsenal player at the end of the summer unfortunately.

I don't know why, but no matter how much I try, I just can't take to Sanchez.

ronjo

ronjo wrote: »

Thanks for sharing

No need to get your knickers in a twist, just echoing the point I dont think Wegner will setup the team correctly

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

No need to get your knickers in a twist, just echoing the point I dont think Wegner will setup the team correctly

Out of interest, what would you suggest? Let's see how close he gets.

ronjo

Deleted User wrote: »

No need to get your knickers in a twist, just echoing the point I dont think Wegner will setup the team correctly

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Basil3

Basil3 wrote: »

Out of interest, what would you suggest? Let's see how close he gets.

Yer normal back 5,

Elnery, Xhaxa.

Sanchez, Ox, Iwobi

Perez

I think that team would do a good job closing Liverpool down inside their own half with the pace to hit them on the break. I'll prob be laughed out over Ozil but I think if the team was going to sit back and be more defensive ye have better options.

We can argue a few positions but a team who could do a good job winning the ball back fast and with the pace to hit them on the counter

ronjo

ronjo wrote: »

No knickers twisted but how unusual that a Man Utd fan managed to get a sly dig at Liverpool and Arsenal in once sentence

What digs? ah never mind was just joining in the convo didnt mean to cause any hassle I'll leave ye do it. Apologies if you thought I was digging at Arsenal.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Yer normal back 5,

Elnery, Xhaxa.

Sanchez, Ox, Iwobi

Perez

I think that team would do a good job closing Liverpool down inside their own half with the pace to hit them on the break. I'll prob be laughed out over Ozil but I think if the team was going to sit back and be more defensive ye have better options.

We can argue a few positions but a team who could do a good job winning the ball back fast and with the pace to hit them on the counter

Elneny is injured. Ozil is a doubt for the match. Ramsey is back, but highly doubtful he'll be thrown straight into the starting lineup.

I would go for something like:

Xhaka - Ramsey or Xhaka - Coq (desperate times, would prefer no Coq)

Perez - Ox - Welbeck

Sanchez.

That's assuming Ozil isn't playing.

greendom

Deleted User wrote: »

Yer normal back 5,

Elnery, Xhaxa.

Sanchez, Ox, Iwobi

Perez

I think that team would do a good job closing Liverpool down inside their own half with the pace to hit them on the break. I'll prob be laughed out over Ozil but I think if the team was going to sit back and be more defensive ye have better options.

We can argue a few positions but a team who could do a good job winning the ball back fast and with the pace to hit them on the counter

Elneny was pictured with a protective boot on earlier this week so I doubt he'll be playing. Coquelin for sure

Basil3

Basil3 wrote: »

Elneny is injured. Ozil is a doubt for the match. Ramsey is back, but highly doubtful he'll be thrown straight into the starting lineup.

I would go for something like:

Xhaka - Ramsey or Xhaka - Coq (desperate times, would prefer no Coq)

Perez - Ox - Welbeck

Sanchez.

That's assuming Ozil isn't playing.

O didnt know about Elnery, ya welbeck is a good shout for there always put in a great shift for us when asked to play wide, I still have nightmares about his finishing mind

Only reason I swapped Perez and Sanchez compared to you as I reckon the defsive side of things is more important on the wing, I thought Perez was a bit lazy in that regaurd (although I could be showing some ignorance there mind)

farna_boy

Wouldn't mind seeing

Sanchez --- Ox --- Perez
--- Welbeck/Giroud ---

but I don't think that would ever happen.

Mr.Micro

Basil3 wrote: »

Elneny is injured. Ozil is a doubt for the match. Ramsey is back, but highly doubtful he'll be thrown straight into the starting lineup.

I would go for something like:

Xhaka - Ramsey or Xhaka - Coq (desperate times, would prefer no Coq)

Perez - Ox - Welbeck

Sanchez.

That's assuming Ozil isn't playing.

Özil is usually missing in most of our big games, lol.

Peace offering

https://twitter.com/Oddschecker/status/837242339928178688

Arne_Saknussem

Ramsey, Kos & Giroud back in full training and should be ok for Saturday, Elneny out for 3 weeks according to Arsene.

Gringo180

Is there no chance we could recall Wilshere?

Arne_Saknussem

Gringo180 wrote: »

Is there no chance we could recall Wilshere?

Nope, no recall option.

emmetlego

Deleted User wrote: »

Peace offering

https://twitter.com/Oddschecker/status/837242339928178688

I weeped a little looking at that. Honestly! What a man he was. What a player. What a legend. Thanks MicksJaguar

emmetlego

emmetlego wrote: »

I weeped a little looking at that. Honestly! What a man he was. What a player. What a legend. Thanks MicksJaguar

He was an absolute legend, the man was just different class. Holland were the team I suppored every world cup barring Ireland, that goal via Argentina in 94 was a real thing of beauty.

wandatowell

Deleted User wrote: »

If id any faith in wegner to pick the right team and play the right tactics Id be loading up on Arsenal this weekend but I do not unfortunetly

You aint wrong!

12gauge dave

Is welbeck a striker is he a winger is he neither or whats his story?:)

I like the guy and i know injuries have held him back but his goalscoring record is horrendous for man united and us.
Id start him upfront for rest of season amd see how he gets on

keano_afc

12gauge dave wrote: »

Is welbeck a striker is he a winger is he neither or whats his story?:)

I like the guy and i know injuries have held him back but his goalscoring record is horrendous for man united and us.
Id start him upfront for rest of season amd see how he gets on

He's a workhorse. If the rest of them put in half the graft he does, we wouldnt be the predictable laughing stock we are.

Ol' Donie

keano_afc wrote: »

He's a workhorse. If the rest of them put in half the graft he does, we wouldnt be the predictable laughing stock we are.

Love Welbz. Great fella, can't wait till he's back in the team.

keano_afc

keano_afc wrote: »

He's a workhorse. If the rest of them put in half the graft he does, we wouldnt be the predictable laughing stock we are.

Hard work is great and all but there's a reason united were OK with letting him go to us. (He's not that good).

Gringo180

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hard work is great and all but there's a reason united were OK with letting him go to us. (He's not that good).

Years ago our attacking players were players of the highest calibre, Henry, Bergkamp, Wiltord, Kanu, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Van Persie, Fabregas. Fair enough we have 2 or 3 quality players now in Sanchez, Ozil and Giroud now but then we have Walcott, Ox, Welbeck, Iwobi all mid table team players imo :pac:

I thought when we would be moving to the bigger stadium we would be taking steps forward not backwards.

emmetlego

I really don't get all this Iwobi bashing. Not everyone mind, but a few. He's only a kid, and he's a brilliant prospect I think. He has show terrific promise. He's just being over used by Wenger. We should not be depending on a kid as a regular starter.

emmetlego

Sorry for replying to myself, but I had to post this.

Just finished listening to this podcast. Absolutely fantastic analysis of Dennis Bergkamp and his brilliance. Is it odd that I get slightly aroused by the memories of this man? Off the ball on Newstalk. It's an interview with the author of 'stillness and speed' and Kilbane's memories. Loved the social media today praising probably our most brilliant footballer.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/The_Football_Show_on_Off_The_Ball/181812/Bergkamps_Genius_Good_Geordie_Days__Barcas_Future

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

He was an absolute legend, the man was just different class. Holland were the team I suppored every world cup barring Ireland, that goal via Argentina in 94 was a real thing of beauty.

Reading Romford Pele's book he had a great sense of humour too according to Ray. He once jocked Vic Akers in front of a few Loreal promotion girls and used to constantly wind up Martin Keown

Ol' Donie

emmetlego wrote: »

Sorry for replying to myself, but I had to post this.

Just finished listening to this podcast. Absolutely fantastic analysis of Dennis Bergkamp and his brilliance. Is it odd that I get slightly aroused by the memories of this man? Off the ball on Newstalk. It's an interview with the author of 'stillness and speed' and Kilbane's memories. Loved the social media today praising probably our most brilliant footballer.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/The_Football_Show_on_Off_The_Ball/181812/Bergkamps_Genius_Good_Geordie_Days__Barcas_Future

Caught a good bit if it on the radio. Brilliant.

I'd stop short of being aroused, but jesus tonight we were blessed to have him.

"Which part of it did they think I didn't mean?"