Red speedvan

Lvstar

This is my first time seeing red speed van ? Any idea what it is ? Tried google but conflicting answers..
Go safe van - can they issue penalties?

Vote 4 Pedro

Lvstar wrote: »

This is my first time seeing red speed van ? Any idea what it is ? Tried google but conflicting answers..
Go safe van - can they issue penalties?

I've seen mostly red speed vans, a few white ones but mostly red.
(Co. Galway)

Murt102

GoSafe vans can issue both penalty points & a fine if found to be over the speed limit.

Their vans can be any colour afaik, I often see white, red and blue ones around.

Lvstar

Ah sugar! I was going 90 in 80 km/h zone i was about 500m away and before other cars . Mind i know its bad to speed and allways stay in limit but i had so much on my mind !!!ahh so so silly

Isambard

apparently you'd need to be a lot closer than 500m for them to nab you....relax

punisher5112

Did it have markings on it as some are survey vans.

Lvstar

Ah im very matucilous person never get in trouble and now freaking out 😂 it had markings on it allright.

Isambard

speedos are quite inaccurate, you probably weren't much over the 80 anyway....you'll be fine in all probability

punisher5112

I'm sure you know they don't flash and you need to be quite close for it to catch you. There is a slight up mark or threshold so hopeful you got down in time.

Popoutman

You've just got to love the completely unreflective chequerboard paint on the side of these vans..
Just in case you'd be able to see a parked vehicle in a place where there would normally be no vehicle.

Smacks of complete stupidity, and a poorly executed idea for safety. Much like the whole implementation of private camera vans in this country.

If you parked your own car in the same place you'd be expected to put sidelights or hazards on. Why are these private groups exempted from that?

tossy

If you can't see one of these as you approach then speeding is the least of your worries, perhaps consider an eye test

punisher5112

tossy wrote: »

If you can't see one of these as you approach then speeding is the least of your worries, perhaps consider an eye test

Parked on bends and behind trucks and other vans though a lot so not really possible to see till too late.

ironclaw

tossy wrote: »

If you can't see one of these as you approach then speeding is the least of your worries, perhaps consider an eye test

They are deliberately non-reflective. Take a photo with a flash camera in the dead of night and you won't pick it up. I'm not saying one still shouldn't see it, but they are using non-reflective materials on these vans.

Popoutman wrote: »

Smacks of complete stupidity, and a poorly executed idea for safety.

Its not stupidity, its deliberate. A highly reflective van will be seen at night, giving a chance to slow down, which kinda defeats the point of dolling out fines for speeding. You can have a high visibility campaign or a campaign based on 'fear' so to speak with people receiving fines oblivious to the van. You can't have both. These vans are thus catch non-observant drivers who are speeding. We'd want to be catching all drivers who are speeding, even the most cunning. So efficiency wise, these vans are highly inefficient at the job they are tasked with doing e.g. Catching speeders.

I've often thought a great case study would be to place once of these vans on a strech of road and conduct the following tests:

• Warn drivers of the van, but have no van, secretly recording the speed of passing cars.
  
• Warn drivers of the van, but have the van in situ, again noting their approach and departure speed.

I'd be curious which test would result in an overall lower average speed for the road. I suspect if people thought they could get a fine on any road, at any time, and not be aware of it, it would be a far more effective campaign than 'zones' where you can be fairly sure a van will be situated and you can otherwise speed as the Gardai are spread so thin otherwise.

tossy

tossy wrote: »

If you can't see one of these as you approach then speeding is the least of your worries, perhaps consider an eye test

My Irish isn't that good you know- who's "Mall" and why does he have to go?

goz83

Deleted User wrote: »

My Irish isn't that good you know- who's "Mall" and why does he have to go?

It's American for "Go to the Shop"

mikeecho

ironclaw wrote: »

They are deliberately non-reflective. Take a photo with a flash camera in the dead of night and you won't pick it up. I'm not saying one still shouldn't see it, but they are using non-reflective materials on these vans.



Its not stupidity, its deliberate. A highly reflective van will be seen at night, giving a chance to slow down, which kinda defeats the point of dolling out fines for speeding. You can have a high visibility campaign or a campaign based on 'fear' so to speak with people receiving fines oblivious to the van. You can't have both. These vans are thus catch non-observant drivers who are speeding. We'd want to be catching all drivers who are speeding, even the most cunning. So efficiency wise, these vans are highly inefficient at the job they are tasked with doing e.g. Catching speeders.

I've often thought a great case study would be to place once of these vans on a strech of road and conduct the following tests:

• Warn drivers of the van, but have no van, secretly recording the speed of passing cars.
  
• Warn drivers of the van, but have the van in situ, again noting their approach and departure speed.

I'd be curious which test would result in an overall lower average speed for the road. I suspect if people thought they could get a fine on any road, at any time, and not be aware of it, it would be a far more effective campaign than 'zones' where you can be fairly sure a van will be situated and you can otherwise speed as the Gardai are spread so thin otherwise.

In the original GoSafe consortium submission for the mobile speed camera contact, GoSafe had carried out such studies.
They covertly monitored and recorded the speeds of drivers over a number of months.

The result was that, Half of all vehicles were exceeding the posted speed limit.

In their submission their prediction of the number of speeding detections was going to be astronomical.
It was going to be a massive revenue stream for the government, and that the revenues would pay for the cost of the contract ,times over.

In reality, with the visible vans they average less than 2 detections per hour.

If anyone thinks that these vans aren't visible, they should look at speed cameras in other countries.

punisher5112

UK have many warnings and reflective camera covering so stick out day and night the vans we have are in no way reflective.

mikeecho

mikeecho wrote: »

In reality, with the visible vans they average less than 2 detections per hour.

If anyone thinks that these vans aren't visible, they should look at speed cameras in other countries.

On certain roads, you're also nearly always warned in advance by oncoming drivers.

Lvstar

Sorry if i offended anyone with my question. I geuineley had alot on my mind and shouldnt have driven at all . I know its my own fault this is why i asked will i now be in trouble