UFC 209: Woodley vs Thompson 2 Sat Mar 4th

mdwexford

Lukker- wrote: »

Any stats I've seen show Woodley had more strikes. What constitutes aggression? Standing in front of your opponent throwing feints? Octagon control is useless if you don't do anything with it.

I have zero problem with Woodley winning. Wonderboy tried to outpoint him again and did no significant damage. In a title fight that isn't going to sway the judges, especially when your challenger.

I had it a draw again, but thank God we don't to watch that fight again anytime soon. So disappointed Wonderboy couldn't live up to his potential, he needs a few lessons on how to fight on the lead or we are in for some more snooze fests when he comes up against counter punchers or people with good wrestling.

Total strikes mean nothing, it's round per round. Also a lot of those Woodley strikes were during his takedown and ground and pound which helped him win round 3.

Aggression is pushing forward, throwing more strikes and yes controlling the octagon which is one of the criteria for judging fights. Especially important in a fight like this that didn't have many big moments.

Significant damage isn't needed to win fights, being the challenger should not have any impact on how the fight is scored either.

I had Wonderboy 1, 2 and 4.

It was certainly a poor fight, similar to his fight vs Rory McDonald. He seems to be a lot more wary when he's fighting top opposition.

Brussels Sprout

Lukker- wrote: »

but thank God we don't to watch that fight again anytime soon.

Considering how badly the crowd reacted during that fight I wonder would they even have done it a third time. In an idealised meritocracy then of course they should have to but in this new world of WME-IMG perhaps they'd have just moved on with a new challenger.

The new owners have to pay back the bloated mortgage they took out to buy the franchise and that one fact is at the root of all the decision making surrounding match-making, new divisions and cutting fighters and staff.

mdwexford

wonderfullife wrote: »

By traditional thinking, round 5 was not a 10-8 as we all understand a 10-8 round to be.

But in a way I'm fully in favour of awarding Woodley a 10-8 for round 5 for the simple reason it sends a massive message out to the entire roster.

It discourages every fighter from dancing around the cage for 4 rounds knowing if their opponent lands flush and comes close to finishing you that you're facing a 10-8.

Well in a way you are talking rubbish then.
Let's give a fake 10-8 round to scare the roster, get a grip.

wonderfullife wrote: »

For a start you're wrong. Woodley landed more shots.

Wonderboy was "more aggressive"? He threw 6 strikes in Round 1. He threw 8 strikes in Round 2.

What does "he controlled the Octagon" actually mean?

Here's the definition from the Unified Rules, section 14. G:

"Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the pace, location and position of the bout. "

Who's controlling what? Woodley made the conscious decision to take the fence for the first 10 mins and invite Wonderboy into his world. In nearly all of his fights, Wonderboy likes to fight in the center of the Octagon and let his kicks go.

Who dictated the pace, location and position of the bout? Answer = Woodley. He kept it a slow pace, got his desired location on the fence and positioned himself so he was never herded into the center of the Octagon where he didn't want to be.

The bottom line here is over 10 full rounds, Woodley comprehensively won 4 of them and came close to finishing Wonderboy 3 times. On the other hand, Wonderboy didn't win a single round clearly in the entire 50 mins of action.

He came in promising to let his hands go, let his kicks go, let his shots go. On fight night, he did none of the above. He danced around afraid to throw anything because he was afraid of getting KO'd or put on his back and sliced open.

My sympathy levels for Wonderboy are precisely ZERO.

Woodley landed most of his shots in that one takedown and ground and pound. Take that out and he barely threw a punch.

What absolute crap. Wonderboy backed him up the whole fight. Woodley made the decision because he was terrified. So because Woodley stood against the fence he dictated the location and pace of the fight. You are deluded if you actually believe that and nobody would give him credit for doing that.

Wonderboy didn't do much, but he did far more than Woodley.

wonderfullife

mdwexford wrote: »

What absolute crap. Wonderboy backed him up the whole fight. Woodley made the decision because he was terrified. So because Woodley stood against the fence he dictated the location and pace of the fight. You are deluded if you actually believe that and nobody would give him credit for doing that.

Wonderboy didn't do much, but he did far more than Woodley.

There wasn't a scratch on Woodley. Literally not a scratch..

Woodley was "terrified"? OF WHAT? Thompson didn't hurt him once in 50 mins of action!

And yes Woodley consciously decided to take the fence. You clearly don't watch many Woodley fights because this isn't new. He likes to take the fence in many fights and explode off it. Wonderboy likes to be in the middle of the Octagon.

Wonderboy didn't "back him up". Woodley wanted to be on the fence and got his desired position. If Wonderboy was cutting off the cage, like Conor did to Eddie, and pinning him to the cage and unloading, then fine I'd agree with you.

He didn't even cut the cage.

I find it very amusing you're trying to justify an absolute garbage performance from Wonderboy by blaming Woodley, who was the only man to actually land some decent shots in the entire fight.

ricero

Disappointing from wonderboy it was like he froze in there. Never went full throttle at all.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him take on robbie lawlor next it would be a super fight.

woodley after all his talk didn't deliver either. I say hes praying Maia gets knocked out against Masvidal

Gamebred

ricero wrote: »

Disappointing from wonderboy it was like he froze in there. Never went full throttle at all.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him take on robbie lawlor next it would be a super fight.

woodley after all his talk didn't deliver either. I say hes praying Maia gets knocked out against Masvidal

Maia fight will suit him, he will fancy himself defending Maia's takedown and is a better striker.

mdwexford

wonderfullife wrote: »

There wasn't a scratch on Woodley. Literally not a scratch..

Woodley was "terrified"? OF WHAT? Thompson didn't hurt him once in 50 mins of action!

And yes Woodley consciously decided to take the fence. You clearly don't watch many Woodley fights because this isn't new. He likes to take the fence in many fights and explode off it. Wonderboy likes to be in the middle of the Octagon.

Wonderboy didn't "back him up". Woodley wanted to be on the fence and got his desired position. If Wonderboy was cutting off the cage, like Conor did to Eddie, and pinning him to the cage and unloading, then fine I'd agree with you.

He didn't even cut the cage.

I find it very amusing you're trying to justify an absolute garbage performance from Wonderboy by blaming Woodley, who was the only man to actually land some decent shots in the entire fight.

He was scared of being knocked out, thought that was pretty obvious. So his cunning plan was to stand on the fence, not throw anything and lose rounds.

I've seen all Woodleys fights thanks.

Hilarious how you say Woodley got his desired position. By walking backwards and standing there. I could do that. It's not some great achievement. Wonderboy 100% backed him up whether you put it in quotation marks or not.

I'm not justifying anything. I don't care what you think. Wonderboy won the fight, end of story.

Woodley got one takedown and one flurry at the end when his corner told him he needed a finish. Other than that he fought a terrible fight.

thewheel2.0

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

D'Amato had the right score if you're being honest but if either of them deserved the win, it was Woodley.

That sums up my feelings on it: a draw. I scored round 5 a 10-8, OK so Woodley didn't dominate from pillar to post but he was very close to stopping it. (Also I'm not sitting down with pen and paper formally scoring)

In the new rules (which were not in effect tonight due to politics - :rolleyes:) that was a 10-8 surely? Yeah the rules did not apply last night but the future of the division is at stake which will use the new rules, so I'm not crying out for Wonderboy.

When Wonderboy failed to hurt/dominate Woodley over 10 rounds it would have been hard to see him bounce around with the belt...

johnpatrick81

I thought it was common knowledge that the champ always gets the nod if the challenger didn't clearly beat him? Sounds like "wonder"boy only has himself to blame. But yeah woodley not gonna be getting any more fans.

Dana White must be close to losing it!

Depp

just rewatched the fight and cant see past 3-2 wonderboy...outside of one takedown and the flurry at the end woodley did nothing. Lads calling 5 a 10-8 is a joke it was barely a 10-9, without that flurry at the end it was wonderboys round. Also just been informed on twitter I only scored it for wonderboy cause I'm a racist, which is nice.

Lukker-

mdwexford wrote: »

Woodley got one takedown and one flurry at the end when his corner told him he needed a finish. Other than that he fought a terrible fight.

Which is more than Wonderboy managed in 10 rounds.

Pressure shouldn't mean anything without output.

Wonderboy had 2 shots and failed both times. He could have taken that fight if he let his hands go at all. But he pussyfooted around.

He didn't land a single big shot last night, few spinning back kicks that's it.

You criticize Woodley but say nothing about how terrible Wonderboy and his game plan was. He approached it like a point karate fight and got punished for it.

Gamebred

Wonderboy might of won 3 rounds last night but over 2 fights he just didnt prove himself to be a better fighter than Woodley, his reluctance of engaging due to the takedown is his problem, he needs to shore up his ground game so it doesnt leave him afraid to pull the trigger.

Depp

Gamebred wrote: »

Wonderboy might of won 3 rounds last night but over 2 fights he just didnt prove himself to be a better fighter than Woodley, his reluctance of engaging due to the takedown is his problem, he needs to shore up his ground game so it doesnt leave him afraid to pull the trigger.

agree with this, if these two make anything clear for me neither are championship quality fighters.

The White Feather

Did you all see the Nevada commission director Bob Bennett said this about the fight....

“If you’re a top-notch, A-plus judge, you should be able to discern through the scoring criteria who wins the fight, even if it’s razor thin,” Bennett said. “Does a 10-10 round come up? Yes, but in the three years — almost three years — that I’ve been the executive director, we have not had a 10-10 round. And I think it’s incumbent upon the judges to be on top of their game and be able to pick a winner in that round. One effective strike or kick can determine who wins a round.”

Bennett took issue with the D’Amato’s 10-8 for Woodley in the fifth, calling it “unacceptable,” since Thompson was winning the round until Woodley dropped him and did significant damage in the final minute of the fight.
“The one judge that had it 10-8 — we went over it in the debriefing — and that 10-8 was unacceptable,” Bennett said. “Not that it would have affected the outcome of the fight, but just to share it with you. We strive to do the best we can, but we don’t always succeed and that judge should have scored that round 10-9.
“He just missed it and usually he’s spot on. But thank god it didn't affect the overall outcome of the fight.”

“Tonight is a big-time fight for those judges,” Bennett said. “It’s very easy for someone to say, ‘I scored it 3-2 this way or that way,’ but you put your butt in that chair for five minutes and when you don’t see a lot of action you’ve gotta, really always be on top of your game — but it’s even more difficult when there’s less punches being thrown.”


Whatever way you score it, I have decided not to bother going though the fight to score it. It was bad enough the first time and was a tough one to make out!!

mdwexford

Lukker- wrote: »

Which is more than Wonderboy managed in 10 rounds.

Pressure shouldn't mean anything without output.

Wonderboy had 2 shots and failed both times. He could have taken that fight if he let his hands go at all. But he pussyfooted around.

He didn't land a single big shot last night, few spinning back kicks that's it.

You criticize Woodley but say nothing about how terrible Wonderboy and his game plan was. He approached it like a point karate fight and got punished for it.

His gameplan wasn't too exciting but it got the job done in my eyes. Woodley is a dangerous guy. If he takes you down its very tough to get up and if he lands that right hand flush it's night night.

Keeping on the outside and trying to tempt him out and counter him was a good strategy.

It's not just as simple as coming out all guns blazing vs a guy that dangerous.

wonderfullife

mdwexford wrote: »

He was scared of being knocked out, thought that was pretty obvious. So his cunning plan was to stand on the fence, not throw anything and lose rounds.

mdwexford wrote: »

Woodley is a dangerous guy. If he takes you down its very tough to get up and if he lands that right hand flush it's night night.

LOL

So your logic is the following:

Woodley was scared of being KO'd and fought a terrible strategy.

AND

Wonderboy's strategy of not engaging was good because Woodley is a dangerous guy who can KO people.

LMAO.

So you're saying Woodley fought scared of being KO'd and therefore fought like a p.ussy BUT Wonderboy was SMART for fighting just as scared?


As for "backing someone up", what Conor did to Eddie is called backing someone up. He cut the cage, circled Eddie into his power hand and froze him to the spot and waited to counter him.

What Wonderboy did was allow Woodley to do laps of the cage, which is EXACTLY what Woodley wanted to do!!!!

Call a spade a spade - Wonderboy is an over-hyped point-karate fighter who is only effective in open Octagon space and he flat-out couldn't get Woodley out to where he is effective. He didn't hurt him once in 50 mins and got busted open repeatedly across the 2 fights.

It was the worst performance by a champion I've seen in a long time and an even worse performance by a challenger. If you want the belt, throw some punches FFS. If you want to keep the belt, throw some jabs. Do something!

They were both muck and should be embarrassed.

mdwexford

wonderfullife wrote: »

LOL

So your logic is the following:

Woodley was scared of being KO'd and fought a terrible strategy.

AND

Wonderboy's strategy of not engaging was good because Woodley is a dangerous guy who can KO people.

LMAO.

So you're saying Woodley fought scared of being KO'd and therefore fought like a p.ussy BUT Wonderboy was SMART for fighting just as scared?


As for "backing someone up", what Conor did to Eddie is called backing someone up. He cut the cage, circled Eddie into his power hand and froze him to the spot and waited to counter him.

What Wonderboy did was allow Woodley to do laps of the cage, which is EXACTLY what Woodley wanted to do!!!!

Call a spade a spade - Wonderboy is an over-hyped point-karate fighter who is only effective in open Octagon space and he flat-out couldn't get Woodley out to where he is effective. He didn't hurt him once in 50 mins and got busted open repeatedly across the 2 fights.

It was the worst performance by a champion I've seen in a long time and an even worse performance by a challenger. If you want the belt, throw some punches FFS. If you want to keep the belt, throw some jabs. Do something!

They were both muck and should be embarrassed.

I'm embarrassed for you writing LOL and LMAO in caps you saddo.

Woodley said himself he was cautious because he didn't want to end up knocked up. He said when he came forward he got caught a few times.

Woodley wasn't working at all, he was standing there doing nothing. He had to be careful but he should have been doing more than he did. Wonderboy was coming forward and doing enough to win rounds. Pretty simple, even Woodleys corner thought he needed a finish.

Wonderboy was backing Woodley up, that's a fact.

wonderfullife

mdwexford wrote: »

I'm embarrassed for you writing LOL and LMAO in caps you saddo.

Woodley said himself he was cautious because he didn't want to end up knocked up. He said when he came forward he got caught a few times.

Woodley wasn't working at all, he was standing there doing nothing. He had to be careful but he should have been doing more than he did. Wonderboy was coming forward and doing enough to win rounds. Pretty simple, even Woodleys corner thought he needed a finish.

Wonderboy was backing Woodley up, that's a fact.

Round 1 was 6 strikes to 5 strikes in favour of Wonderboy.
Round 2 was 8 strikes to 8 strikes.

Woodley was more accurate by far (41% and 50% landed).

He clearly didn't do enough to win rounds in the eyes of the Judges.

MMA Fighting, Sherdog, ESPN, Fight Network all scored it for Woodley on their live blog. In fact of the websites running live blogs, 13 of them had it for Woodley or draw. 6 had it for Wonderboy.

There's nothing CLEAR about what Wonderboy did in Round 1 or 2 and you're having a laugh if you think 8 strikes to 8 strikes = a clear cut round.

.ak

Can't believe there's any discussion around the main event. What is there to analyse? It was a complete non-event. They should've just showed EA UFC Game 'prediction' footage for the Khabib fight, would've been more enthralling.

callaway92

Lads ye both come across as pompous f'ers in what you're writing today.

Ruining the thread

wonderfullife

.ak wrote: »

Can't believe there's any discussion around the main event. What is there to analyse? It was a complete non-event. They should've just showed EA UFC Game 'prediction' footage for the Khabib fight, would've been more enthralling.

Agree 100%.

Just find it amusing some people are trying to say Woodley fought scared but Wonderboy didn't.

They bought fought like they were afraid of fighting. The crowd were chanting "fight, fight, fight" in the 5th round.

Gamebred

Woodley fought scared of being countered, Wonderboy of being taken down, high stakes but very disappointing.

mailburner

karate was almost back last night :pac:

at least we'll never get to see these two in the octagon together again

it's an awful shame rory never got that belt when you see how he outclassed woodley and nearly everybody else he fought

woodley won't have any problems with maia imo, masvidal on the other hand
is one I'd to love to see in the off chance he gets past maia of course

wonderfullife

Gamebred wrote: »

Woodley fought scared of being countered, Wonderboy of being taken down, high stakes but very disappointing.

Yeah that's it I don't know why MDWexford has a problem in saying both men fought scared. Trying to make out it was just Woodley is not what we all saw happen.

mdwexford

wonderfullife wrote: »

Just find it amusing some people are trying to say Woodley fought scared but Wonderboy didn't.

Thats not what im saying though, I find it amusing you keep putting words in my mouth.

Im saying Wonderboy did more than Woodley and enough to get the decision.

wonderfullife

mdwexford wrote: »

Thats not what im saying though, I find it amusing you keep putting words in my mouth.

Im saying Wonderboy did more than Woodley and enough to get the decision.

They were both muck we agree on that so leave it there.

GerryDerpy

Had the fight 3-2 to Wonderboy myself. It was a real tense chess game and you just have to accept that it can result in boring fights.

Overall I felt woodley feared wonderboy more. But woodley was in fairness the only one that landed good hits. Only one hook and one spinning kick from wonderboy stuck in my memory.

Overall a bad card from the UFC. They are really panicking with their 4 billion investment now I reckon, hence they got GSP to make a comeback.

They need a McGregor show really badly and ain't getting it this year it seems.

darced

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mdwexford

wonderfullife wrote: »

They were both muck we agree on that so leave it there.

Gamebred

Woodley obviously has fears about his cardio but crys when people like Rogan talk about it, if he didnt he would've went out like he did in round 5 a lot earlier, he was walking Wonderboy down in that 5th round and eventually landed the right hand, if he implemented that earlier nobody would be moaning about the poor fight.

raze_them_all_

darced wrote: »

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Gamebred

Was more entertaining tbh that CM fight.

Depp

Gamebred wrote: »

Was more entertaining tbh that CM fight.

at least we didn't have to endure 5 rounds of the punk fight!

mailburner

couture v toney

Django99

The fight was like if two soccer teams decided to stay in their own halves and pass the ball around for the whole game.

It's almost a shame someone got to win the fight as both deserved to lose. Both are equal to blame as well. The scoring is a flip of a coin for me, and I would have preferred if they actually did decide it with a coin flip rather than one of them being able to call it a win.

We've had fights like it before but after what both of these promised and the fact both felt they were hard done by in the first fight, I was actually angry watching them. I hope Maia strangles Woodley or Masvidal KOs him or GSP ground and pounds him unconscious, he is so annoying at this stage and Wonderboy is arguably worse.

Django99

I'd say it was worse than Punk or Toney. It was at least entertaining to see the two of those dominated. And it was interesting to see what happens when a professional takes on a novice.

This was two lads who claim to be the best in the world, and then Woodley comes out and tells people to do it themselves if they could do better. I'd actually prefer to watch two drunks brawl on the street than watch that fight again.

Woodley will be back co maining or else on Fox/Fightpass next fight unless they can get a big name to fight him.

I'd love if they gave him Nick Diaz and Nick put a boxing clinic on him, as cruel and all as that would be to legitimate contenders

Gamebred

https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/838195674575314944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Wow, big pay glad Tony got his number he asked for least he got 250k from this.

Wrongway1985

Django99 wrote: »

This was two lads who claim to be the best in the world, and then Woodley comes out and tells people to do it themselves if they could do better. I'd actually prefer to watch two drunks brawl on the street than watch that fight again.

Not just best in the world, best welterweight of all time Woodley claims!!

Mellor

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

CM Punk might be the worst fighter of all time in the UFC. He his fight was significantly better that that last nights. 100% down to the skills of Mickey Gall of course

Mellor

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

I thought it was common knowledge that the champ always gets the nod if the challenger didn't clearly beat him?

Not so much common knowledge, but a myth that's constantly repeated.
Being the champion has no bearing on the scoring, not per the rules or any official guidance. If a ref came out and said that's what he did, he should probably be removed from judging.

wonderfullife wrote: »

By traditional thinking, round 5 was not a 10-8 as we all understand a 10-8 round to be.

But in a way I'm fully in favour of awarding Woodley a 10-8 for round 5 for the simple reason it sends a massive message out to the entire roster.

It discourages every fighter from dancing around the cage for 4 rounds knowing if their opponent lands flush and comes close to finishing you that you're facing a 10-8.

It's not the job of the NSAC judges to "send messages" top the UFC roster. In fact, it's not only not their job, it's a conflict of interest and complete misconduct if they take it upon themselves to score it that way. The 5th wasn't a 10-8, ever imo. The fact it was more dominant than the other feeble rounds is irrelevant.



Some people will have genuinely score it for Woodley, and others for Wonderboy.
The problem with debating the scoring the day after is that people can retrospectively score to suit either fighter. Not aiming this at Wonderlife or anyone in particular here. Just pointing out that it probably happens in razor thing fights like this.
At the same time, anyone who says they scored it for whoever, but can't reference the scoring rounds get a big :rolleyes:

Axwell

mdwexford wrote: »

I'm embarrassed for you writing LOL and LMAO in caps you saddo..

You two need to just start ignoring each other, its constant tit for tat between you both everytime. Just ignore each other if its going to be this nonsense every time or you are going to be taking a long break and that applies to both of you.

Django99

Interestingly Bob Bennett from NSAC made some comments after the fight. He said the judge who gave a 10-8 got it wrong, and also that if judges do their job correctly there would never be any robberies. He basically said that there is a clear winner in every single round, even if it is razor close.

For me judging will always be subjective and there will always be mistakes. If there was a better way to decide the winner I'd love to hear it. But the way it is used at the moment, judges will always make mistakes and make the wrong person the winner on occasion.

The White Feather

Django99 wrote: »

Interestingly Bob Bennett from NSAC made some comments after the fight. He said the judge who gave a 10-8 got it wrong, and also that if judges do their job correctly there would never be any robberies. He basically said that there is a clear winner in every single round, even if it is razor close.

For me judging will always be subjective and there will always be mistakes. If there was a better way to decide the winner I'd love to hear it. But the way it is used at the moment, judges will always make mistakes and make the wrong person the winner on occasion.

Yes I posted about it here but it might have been lost in the squabbling!

The White Feather wrote: »

Did you all see the Nevada commission director Bob Bennett said this about the fight....

“If you’re a top-notch, A-plus judge, you should be able to discern through the scoring criteria who wins the fight, even if it’s razor thin,” Bennett said. “Does a 10-10 round come up? Yes, but in the three years — almost three years — that I’ve been the executive director, we have not had a 10-10 round. And I think it’s incumbent upon the judges to be on top of their game and be able to pick a winner in that round. One effective strike or kick can determine who wins a round.”

Bennett took issue with the D’Amato’s 10-8 for Woodley in the fifth, calling it “unacceptable,” since Thompson was winning the round until Woodley dropped him and did significant damage in the final minute of the fight.
“The one judge that had it 10-8 — we went over it in the debriefing — and that 10-8 was unacceptable,” Bennett said. “Not that it would have affected the outcome of the fight, but just to share it with you. We strive to do the best we can, but we don’t always succeed and that judge should have scored that round 10-9.
“He just missed it and usually he’s spot on. But thank god it didn't affect the overall outcome of the fight.”

“Tonight is a big-time fight for those judges,” Bennett said. “It’s very easy for someone to say, ‘I scored it 3-2 this way or that way,’ but you put your butt in that chair for five minutes and when you don’t see a lot of action you’ve gotta, really always be on top of your game — but it’s even more difficult when there’s less punches being thrown.”

finglashoop

Woodley clearly won the round with takedown and probably the last with the flurry with 30 seconds left - although up to that point thompson may have been edging it. Not sure how you get.a 10 8.

The other three for thompson where rounds where very little happened but thompson at least looked like he was trying to do something while.doing nothing at all

Woodley must not trust his cardio and is looking for that one big flurry to end the fight as from.the start he always looks to be conserving energy and then into a flurry ( not just this fight)

He could have takenthompson down at will and probably keep him there for 5 rounds if he wnated to.

The real loser was everyone watching the fight. Thompson better pray someone beats woodley as i doubt ufc will ever sanction another fight with woodley

Mellor

“If you’re a top-notch, A-plus judge, you should be able to discern through the scoring criteria who wins the fight, even if it’s razor thin,” Bennett said. “Does a 10-10 round come up? Yes, but in the three years — almost three years — that I’ve been the executive director, we have not had a 10-10 round.

I strongly disagree with at part tbh.
A 10-10 round exists, it's mentioned in the rules.
If a single strike can win a round, then had that single strike missed or been equalled then the round was a 10-10.

And he's wrong about that there hasn't been one during his tenure.

Lukker-

Mellor wrote: »

I strongly disagree with at part tbh.
A 10-10 round exists, it's mentioned in the rules.
If a single strike can win a round, then had that single strike missed or been equalled then the round was a 10-10.

And he's wrong about that there hasn't been one during his tenure.

For sure, I know NSAC haven't adopted the new MMA rules yet, but under new the judging system aren't draws going to be more common?

Gamebred

Think I seen somewhere no judge in Nevada has given a 10-10 in 3 years or something anyone confirm?

Mellor

Gamebred wrote: »

Think I seen somewhere no judge in Nevada has given a 10-10 in 3 years or something anyone confirm?

I can confirm that Bob is talking bollox and a judge has in fact given a 10-10 in Nevada in the last 3 years

https://twitter.com/Mellor888/status/838608272340897793

ricero

Any chance they reschedule khabib vs tony for ufc 210 next month or is dana completly nixed that fight ?

Gamebred

Khabib might need a break and cant fight after May I think, wont see him till god knows now, love to see them make Nate v Tony.