Escorts?

jimmynokia

You would have to presume females would be charged if caught with a male escort..Because it happens..

Johnboner

True and its hilarious because the woman doesn't get punished. The law is campaigned by extreme feminists who should be removed from society as it is completely unfair, they go around spreading their fake news and causing chaos and unfair treatment everywhere while hiding behind feminism.
But the law is not there yet so you can buy sex all you want just do it now before it will become illegal due to the pressure from ''turn off the red light'' movement.

Cameo

Johnboner wrote: »

What is in your opinion my agenda? I just forgot to put gf/bf.

An anti women one.

Cameo

jimmynokia wrote: »

You would have to presume females would be charged if caught with a male escort..Because it happens..

Don't say stuff that doesn't suit the narrative!

Johnboner

Cameo wrote: »

An anti women one.

I love all women, without women there wouldn't be so many things.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

jimmynokia wrote: »

You would have to presume females would be charged if caught with a male escort..Because it happens..

There's 8 male prostitures on EI and they're all gay...

Cameo

Johnboner wrote: »

True and its hilarious because the woman doesn't get punished. The law is campaigned by extreme feminists who should be removed from society as it is completely unfair, they go around spreading their fake news and causing chaos and unfair treatment everywhere while hiding behind feminism.
But the law is not there yet so you can buy sex all you want just do it now before it will become illegal due to the pressure from ''turn off the red light'' movement.

I agree (although removed from society?) - the people who should be asked their opinion are the prostitutes themselves - and plenty are getting on fine, but there are those who aren't.

Johnboner

jimmynokia wrote: »

You would have to presume females would be charged if caught with a male escort..Because it happens..

Where does it happen? There is no law making paying for sex or selling it illegal. However it has to be done privately not on a street or a brothel.

Johnboner

Cameo wrote: »

I agree (although removed from society?) - the people who should be asked their opinion are the prostitutes themselves - and plenty are getting on fine, but there are those who aren't.

I meant they movement should be ignored or their group just shut down as they spread massive misinformation.

Divelment

MY BODY MY CHOICE, once of course that freedom for a woman to do what she chooses with her body, doesn't result in a man enjoying himself by paying for casual sex, then it must be outlawed.

Sleeper12

Donald Trump wrote:

300 quid for a 22 year old escort

I was expecting an inflatable doll.

professore

Johnboner wrote: »

Everyone that goes to prostitutes gets STD 100% of the time. And where did you get that it's illegal to go to prostitutes? It is LEGAL to pay for sex in Ireland so you can freely go to all the escorts you want without breaking the law. Another misinformed person spreading false information.

Not anymore it isn't. It's now illegal to purchase but not sell sex.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sexual-offences-bill-criminalising-purchase-of-sex-passed-in-dáil-1.2968097

Johnboner

professore wrote: »

Not anymore it isn't. It's now illegal to purchase but not sell sex.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sexual-offences-bill-criminalising-purchase-of-sex-passed-in-dáil-1.2968097

I cannot find any real info about it outside the article

professore

Johnboner wrote: »

I cannot find any real info about it outside the article

Google it. It's the sexual offences bill about consent. This was tacked onto it. Do you think the Irish Times just made it up? If you do then you've got worse problems my friend

Fred Swanson

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Cartouche

I have never really understood why prostitution is illegal. Surely all the arguments against it would be better and safer if it was completely legal

Johnboner

professore wrote: »

Google it. It's the sexual offences bill about consent. This was tacked onto it. Do you think the Irish Times just made it up? If you do then you've got worse problems my friend

Where did i say that????? Show me where

riffmongous

Cartouche wrote: »

I have never really understood why prostitution is illegal. Surely all the arguments against it would be better and safer if it was completely legal

It's hard to say, look at Germany where it's totally legal yet they still have a huge problem with people trafficking

paralysed

OU812 wrote: »

Once both parties are consenting, I've no problems with it. Not sure I'd feel the same way if it was my daughter though...

fingers crossed it's a boy coming. Or in 16 years, a decade's worth of stress will arrive!

paralysed

Reasons not to get escorts:

1. it's just another example of how young women can get money more easily than young men... they don't deserve your money
2. you're a young man in your prime, isn't it a shame that you need an escort? maybe when I'm 60 and my wife has alzheimers.
3. you can't taste them, if you know what I mean - or even kiss them (ya don't know where they've been)
4. chances are, that just at the moment your getting into it & you're finally in the right frame of mind, it'll be a case of "time's up, need more money".
5. Risks - there are various risks, most of which you couldn't possibly foresee until you'd try it... and I don't just mean STDs. Nearby pimps, solicitation setups, etc.

Discodog

LexieOnRale wrote: »

There's 8 male prostitures on EI and they're all gay...

There are lots of male escorts but few in Ireland. There was a program on channel 4 about male escorts working in London & their female clients. It's an increasing aspect of the industry. A lot of women want to be able to have sex discreetly & safely without any possible repercussions.

The government introduced the law to protect women & then totally ignored the views of those women. There are escorts & street prostitutes - they are completely different. But the government are outlawing both.

DeepMess

I could never understand why men go to escorts. I mean at the back of their head are they not thinking she is completely uninterested and faking everything? Its sad and reading the reviews on that escort site is even sadder with the amount of men who seem to idolize these girls and genuinely believe that these girls are in anyway interested in them. They're living in fantasy land, most of those girls probably see those men as absolutely pathetic and are repulsed by them.

Discodog

DeepMess wrote: »

I could never understand why men go to escorts. I mean at the back of their head are they not thinking she is completely uninterested and faking everything? Its sad and reading the reviews on that escort site is even sadder with the amount of men who seem to idolize these girls and genuinely believe that these girls are in anyway interested in them. They're living in fantasy land, most of those girls probably see those men as absolutely pathetic and are repulsed by them.

Or they see them as valued customers just like any other business.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Discodog wrote: »

Or they see them as valued customers just like any other business.

Hardly. Some married aul lad off his nut on Coke seizuring on top of you while you're making a list of what you need to buy in Tesco that evening for your boyfriends dinner

Potential-Monke

DeepMess wrote: »

I could never understand why men go to escorts. I mean at the back of their head are they not thinking she is completely uninterested and faking everything? Its sad and reading the reviews on that escort site is even sadder with the amount of men who seem to idolize these girls and genuinely believe that these girls are in anyway interested in them. They're living in fantasy land, most of those girls probably see those men as absolutely pathetic and are repulsed by them.

I can never understand why people buy designer labels. I mean, at the back of their head are they not thinking this is completely overpriced cloth. It's sad and seeing people openly wear expensive clothing is even sadder with the amount of people who idolise a label and genuinely believe that by wearing them they're better people. They're living in a fantasy land, most other people see those in designer clothes and think they are pathetic and are repulsed by them.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I can never understand why people buy designer labels. I mean, at the back of their head are they not thinking this is completely overpriced cloth. It's sad and seeing people openly wear expensive clothing is even sadder with the amount of people who idolise a label and genuinely believe that by wearing them they're better people. They're living in a fantasy land, most other people see those in designer clothes and think they are pathetic and are repulsed by them.

They still don't have to pay for sex though

BorneTobyWilde

DeepMess wrote: »

I could never understand why men go to escorts. I mean at the back of their head are they not thinking she is completely uninterested and faking everything? Its sad and reading the reviews on that escort site is even sadder with the amount of men who seem to idolize these girls and genuinely believe that these girls are in anyway interested in them. They're living in fantasy land, most of those girls probably see those men as absolutely pathetic and are repulsed by them.

Where would these guys who use escorts be getting their fix of sex if they were not going to escorts. I can imagine some would be abusing or forcing sex on women who are vulnerable. Where is a 50 year old guy going to get sex with an 18 year old girl, he can on the Escort site. I guess that has to be better than him abusing some young 18 year old who doesn't want to sleep with him.
I'm Mormon and never had sex, but I can see why people would use a service when there is a service provided. It's like any service, if some lady offered a topless house cleaning service then there will be many who will use her, just like many would use the normal house cleaning service.
It's like putting a wheelie bin in the middle of a 100 acre field, no doubt if you returned within a week it would be full, always people who will use something when it's there to use.

Potential-Monke

LexieOnRale wrote: »

They still don't have to pay for sex though

I'd put it to you that people in designer clothes are more likely to pay for sex, because they have the disposable cash.

Anyway, it was a way to show that an opinion is just that, an opinion. It doesn't give anyone the automatic right to think that everyone else is wrong.

Discodog

paralysed wrote: »

Reasons not to get escorts:

1. it's just another example of how young women can get money more easily than young men... they don't deserve your money
2. you're a young man in your prime, isn't it a shame that you need an escort? maybe when I'm 60 and my wife has alzheimers.
3. you can't taste them, if you know what I mean - or even kiss them (ya don't know where they've been)
4. chances are, that just at the moment your getting into it & you're finally in the right frame of mind, it'll be a case of "time's up, need more money".
5. Risks - there are various risks, most of which you couldn't possibly foresee until you'd try it... and I don't just mean STDs. Nearby pimps, solicitation setups, etc.

It must be such a terrible experience but men have been happily doing it for thousands of years. How much would you want to provide sex ? They certainly earn their money. Maybe young men don't need an Escort but fancy a little fun - every heard of that word ? They know where they have been & their standards of hygiene are uaually very good - because their job depends on it. If you have trouble getting into it & need more time don't assume everyone else does. The risks are so great that people keep doing it :rolleyes:

Discodog

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Hardly. Some married aul lad off his nut on Coke seizuring on top of you while you're making a list of what you need to buy in Tesco that evening for your boyfriends dinner

Maybe. We all deal with people in work that we wouldn't chose as friends

ToddyDoody

fontdor wrote: »

Hi all. So here is a question. Is prostitution in Ireland illegal? I came across escorts Ireland website but I don't know if it is illegal in Ireland or not so I'm afraid of arranging a meeting.

I read somewhere earlier today that a law was passed which made it illegal to pay for sex so I really wanted to clarify this for myself. Thank you.

Its the dodginess surrounding escorts in our post-sexualized society that led car marker Ford to rename it's Escort car model.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Discodog wrote: »

Maybe. We all deal with people in work that we wouldn't chose as friends

True, but I wouldn't let them penetrate me either.

Discodog

LexieOnRale wrote: »

True, but I wouldn't let them penetrate me either.

I think that the Escort views penetration differently. It's no big deal & part of the job. Maybe they would hate to be a salesperson & have to lie all day ?

Cameo

paralysed wrote: »

Reasons not to get escorts:

1. it's just another example of how young women can get money more easily than young men... they don't deserve your money

Or alternatively: "I hate women".

Fred Swanson

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Discodog

Winterlong wrote: »

Bump!

I don't see any trolls. Seems like a very reasoned conversation to me.

IamtheWalrus

I had sex with an escort once. Well not really an escort.. my mum.

Cameo

Discodog wrote: »

I don't see any trolls. Seems like a very reasoned conversation to me.

I dunno. Even the craziness from Johnboner, such as "A couple sharing a house is paying for sex"?

Peregrine

Discodog wrote: »

I don't see any trolls. Seems like a very reasoned conversation to me.

I've banned 7 re-reg accounts on this thread in the past two hours. 2 different people. There are some sad people out there.

Fred Swanson

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DeepMess

Reasons not to get escorts:

1. it's just another example of how young women can get money more easily than young men... they don't deserve your money
2. you're a young man in your prime, isn't it a shame that you need an escort? maybe when I'm 60 and my wife has alzheimers.
3. you can't taste them, if you know what I mean - or even kiss them (ya don't know where they've been)
4. chances are, that just at the moment your getting into it & you're finally in the right frame of mind, it'll be a case of "time's up, need more money".
5. Risks - there are various risks, most of which you couldn't possibly foresee until you'd try it... and I don't just mean STDs. Nearby pimps, solicitation setups, etc.

What a catch you are...

professore

Johnboner wrote: »

Where did i say that????? Show me where

First you said I was spreading misinformation saying that the purchase of sex was illegal. Then you misquoted me about prostitutes spreading STDs when I actually said the people out banging each other all weekend unprotected were spreading STDs. I think prostitution should be legal between consenting adults, but you missed that point completely.

When I posted a link to the Irish Times article about the recent law, you said "I cannot find any real info about it outside the article" as if the article was somehow flawed. Don't see how it's illegal to purchase sex could be made more clear.

Peregrine

Johnboner and Cameo, take you trolling and bickering somewhere else. Thanks.

Edit: Johnboner banned for trolling.

Mod

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Wtf! I'm out of this thread. It's impossible to discuss/follow. Most of my posts are taken down and there's literally half the posts gone by the time youve hit reply

Colser

Fred Swanson wrote: »

So women are never to blame? Pull the other one.

That'll be 50e..ðŸ˜

There was a documentary on CH4 recently called My Granny The Escort..worth a watch,I found it interesting in that they seem to enjoy it and definitely feel they've offering a necessary service but one story was very sad imo..I think she needed their company as much as they needed what she was selling.

professore

DeepMess wrote: »

I could never understand why men go to escorts. I mean at the back of their head are they not thinking she is completely uninterested and faking everything? Its sad and reading the reviews on that escort site is even sadder with the amount of men who seem to idolize these girls and genuinely believe that these girls are in anyway interested in them. They're living in fantasy land, most of those girls probably see those men as absolutely pathetic and are repulsed by them.

"Normal" women probably see them as absolutely pathetic and treat them as such. Any average looking guy has been cruelly put down by a couple of women in his time. At least the escort will be nice to them.

Lots of men in normal relationships are living in fantasy land that their partner actually cares about them and not their money.

Some probably just do it for variety. The difference is it's easier for women to get sex if they want it than men. And by the way I'd have no issue with male escorts for women.

Noddyholder

Sex is a huge taboo in Ireland, & yes you can trace it back to the strangle hold the CC had on the country, Most of the major European countries have legalised clubs & brothels & are run on strict safe & secure guidelines.

I find nothing wrong with men who go to these establishment's for relief, In many cases married men go there because its not happening at home for what ever reason & instead of rocking the boat in what is most likely a good relationship they go get sex/relief elsewhere without attachments.

As for Male escorts for women, In Ireland that's a very secret circle, but go outside and its there, We all have heard of the women who travel to turkey & morocco to get them self's a toy boy, Its a huge business there for bored & frustrated women.

hytrogen

Johnboner wrote:

So you are paying for her part as well, interpret it however you want, it doesn't change the meaning.

Think you missed out on steak & BJ day lad.. :P

Grayson

There's a certain segment of the population that get their knickers in a twist about gay men having sex and they can't stand it. However what two consenting adults do is nobodies business except theirs.

I see sex workers the same way. If two people willingly engage in sexual acts and money is paid, it's nobodies business except theirs ( and possibly the taxman).

I get the squeamishness. I'm a straight male. Although I have no problem with two men having sex I do feel a certain ick factor. I feel the same about paid sex. It's not that I think there's anything morally wrong with it (although it may involve cheating or other morally dubious areas), I don't think the actual act of paying for sex is immoral, it's just that I do feel a certain amount of squeamishness.

Peregrine

Deleteing off-topic posts.

No need for a tangent discussion on going off sex in relationships and having affairs.