Escorts?

Sound Bite

Realise I'm probably a little naive here but where does the demand for prostitutes really come from? Single men? Married men? Young? Old?

Is sex really that scarce in today's world?

Also the talk of married men who aren't getting any is that really as big a problem as its made out to be. I can only think of one women i know who has gone completely off sex since having children but she was never really keen on sex before then anyway - her husband knew this before he married her.

LaraLushhhhh

Johnboner wrote: »

Everyone that goes to prostitutes gets STD 100% of the time. And where did you get that it's illegal to go to prostitutes? It is LEGAL to pay for sex in Ireland so you can freely go to all the escorts you want without breaking the law. Another misinformed person spreading false information.

Where are you getting that from ? "Everyone that goes into prostitution gets STD 100% of the time"

Totally untrue. You have more of a chance of cathching something from a one night stand than an escort. We (yes, we) are always very careful, condoms and regular STI checks are the norm for escorts.

Samaris

Mod - Just to add, don't respond to Johnboner, he's not allowed to post in this thread anymore.

LaraLushhhhh

Sound Bite wrote: »

Realise I'm probably a little naive here but where does the demand for prostitutes really cone from? Single men? Married men? Young? Old?

Is sex really that scarce in today's world?

Also the talk of married men who aren't getting any is that really as big a problem as its made out to be. I can only think of one women i know who has gone completely off sex since having children but she was never really keen on sex before then anyway - her husband knew this before he married her.

It comes from all kinds of men. Married, single, young and old, lonely, bored, stressed. They have lots of reasons

Noddyholder

LaraLushhhhh wrote: »

It comes from all kinds of men. Married, single, young and old, lonely, bored, stressed. They have lots of reasons

Are most of the ladies there happy to do the work they do ?

Sound Bite

LaraLushhhhh wrote: »

It comes from all kinds of men. Married, single, young and old, lonely, bored, stressed. They have lots of reasons

But surely that demand can be satisfied without resorting to paying for it? Its not the 1930s, women enjoy sex too and surely the majority require sex ever much as men do!

LaraLushhhhh

Noddyholder wrote: »

Are most of the ladies there happy to do the work they do ?

I can only speak for myself. I'm independent. Part time and I'm happy with it. I work from a safe and clean hotel. I make the rules and I keep myself to myself. I have a regular clientele now so that's a good thing I guess. No more worrying about what's coming to the door.

LaraLushhhhh

Sound Bite wrote: »

But surely that demand can be satisfied without resorting to paying for it? Its not the 1930s, women enjoy sex too and surely the majority require sex ever much as men do!

Honestly I don't know about that. You would think that but I suppose if they just want to meet someone on their lunch break Or after a long day at work then for some it's the only way ?

LaraLushhhhh

LaraLushhhhh wrote: »

Honestly I don't know about that. You would think that but I suppose if they just want to meet someone on their lunch break Or after a long day at work then for some it's the only way ?

And then there's the confidentiality of it all too. I'm not going to text him afterwards and annoy him haha

Noddyholder

LaraLushhhhh wrote: »

I can only speak for myself. I'm independent. Part time and I'm happy with it. I work from a safe and clean hotel. I make the rules and I keep myself to myself. I have a regular clientele now so that's a good thing I guess. No more worrying about what's coming to the door.

Thanks for answering, much respect to you.

Do you ever think of doing a ask me anything forum here ? it might help dismiss & show some understanding of your work.

here's the link :-) http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1647

LaraLushhhhh

Noddyholder wrote: »

Thanks for answering, much respect to you.

Do you ever think of doing a ask me anything forum here ? it might help dismiss & show some understanding of your work.

here's the link :-)

I don't think I'd be interested in all the haters who would follow me

jamesbere

Sound Bite wrote: »

But surely that demand can be satisfied without resorting to paying for it? Its not the 1930s, women enjoy sex too and surely the majority require sex ever much as men do!

There are some sexual fantasies that prostitution provide. I'm mean there's a lot more to sex than just getting up on eachother. I mean bondage isn't something a lot of women are into, if a woman/man provides this service then people will avail of it.

Winterlong

LaraLushhhhh wrote: »

Noddyholder wrote: »

Thanks for answering, much respect to you.

Do you ever think of doing a ask me anything forum here ? it might help dismiss & show some understanding of your work.

here's the link :-)

I don't think I'd be interested in all the haters who would follow me

There would be a lot more supporting you than not. You come across very well in your posts.

LaraLushhhhh

Winterlong wrote: »

There would be a lot more supporting you than not. You come across very well in your posts.

Ok I'll give it a go but if it goes bad I'm blaming you :P

professore

Sound Bite wrote: »

But surely that demand can be satisfied without resorting to paying for it? Its not the 1930s, women enjoy sex too and surely the majority require sex ever much as men do!

Women enjoy sex with a subset of men. Some men have difficulties relating to women. It's funny when rape culture is bandied about, when there are lots of men who are afraid to even talk to women in a flirty or sexual way. It's very confusing for them. That's an area where escorts can really help, taking some of the mystery out of it. They are still women after all - and they aren't going to shoot you down.

chicorytip

"In Dublin" magazine, in its heyday, published and profited hugely from ad's for so called massage parlours where it was implicit yet never overtly stated that sexual services were for sale. Websites such as "Escorts Ireland" are just a natural evolution of this.
The harsh reality of prostitution remains unchanged, however. These girls - from the poorest regions of Eastern Europe - are trafficked into Ireland illegally, moved around the country effectively as sex slaves, gaining little financial reward whilst under the control of violent pimps.

professore

LaraLushhhhh wrote: »

I can only speak for myself. I'm independent. Part time and I'm happy with it. I work from a safe and clean hotel. I make the rules and I keep myself to myself. I have a regular clientele now so that's a good thing I guess. No more worrying about what's coming to the door.

Thanks for your responses. What are your clients like, are they mostly respectful of you, or do some of them treat you badly? Just curious. The narrative is that they are all abusive.

professore

chicorytip wrote: »

"In Dublin" magazine, in its heyday, published and profited hugely from ad's for so called massage parlours where it was implicit yet never overtly stated that sexual services were for sale. Websites such as "Escorts Ireland" are just a natural evolution of this.
The harsh reality of prostitution remains unchanged, however. These girls - from the poorest regions of Eastern Europe - are trafficked into Ireland illegally, moved around the country effectively as sex slaves, gaining little financial reward whilst under the control of violent pimps.

LaraLushh doesn't fit that profile.

Noddyholder

LaraLushhhhh wrote: »

Noddyholder wrote: »

Thanks for answering, much respect to you.

Do you ever think of doing a ask me anything forum here ? it might help dismiss & show some understanding of your work.

here's the link :-)

I don't think I'd be interested in all the haters who would follow me

Its well Moderated & any dicks ( excuse the pun) wont be allowed in, have a look at the link, there are some great ones there.

Sound Bite

professore wrote: »

Women enjoy sex with a subset of men. Some men have difficulties relating to women. It's funny when rape culture is bandied about, when there are lots of men who are afraid to even talk to women in a flirty or sexual way. It's very confusing for them. That's an area where escorts can really help, taking some of the mystery out of it. They are still women after all - and they aren't going to shoot you down.

But surely if these men are afraid of and are intimidated by the average woman, then would find an experienced prostitute even more intimidating or am I missing something?

PucaMama

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Plenty of happily married men are not getting it enough at home. Wives unwilling to preform certain sexual acts.

Escorts provide a safe way for them to get their balls drained and not harm anyone by cheating.

except that is cheating. even if the wife says yes its just approved cheating.

you always hear the hes unhappily married excuse for married men using prostitutes, its a handy way of excusing the behaviour.

WhiteMemento9

It is funny to see so many liberal posts towards prostitution when you consider that if this conversation came up within a group friends in real life that I think it would be incredibly rare to see people voice those type of views. I often wonder about the duality of our nature with regards stuff like this as to how we have been conditioned to act and say certain things IRL that don't align in anyway with our views when put behind a keyboard anonymously.

PucaMama

Sound Bite wrote: »

But surely if these men are afraid of and are intimidated by the average woman, then would find an experienced prostitute even more intimidating or am I missing something?

it would be like putting a plaster over a stab wound. those timid men would be better off improving their social skills naturally.

professore

Sound Bite wrote: »

But surely if these men are afraid of and are intimidated by the average woman, then would find an experienced prostitute even more intimidating or am I missing something?

If you wanted a doctor for a suspected STD, would you be more intimidated walking into a bar and asking every man there if he could help, in the hope one of them was a doctor, or going to your local GP? Would the fact the GP had seen it before make it more intimidating? Seems obvious to me.

Noddyholder

PucaMama wrote: »

except that is cheating. even if the wife says yes its just approved cheating.

you always hear the hes unhappily married excuse for married men using prostitutes, its a handy way of excusing the behaviour.

Why do you think men go to them ? and mostly married men at that ?


From Ben dunne to joe soap....

LaraLushhhhh

professore wrote: »

Thanks for your responses. What are your clients like, are they mostly respectful of you, or do some of them treat you badly? Just curious. The narrative is that they are all abusive.

No my clients are all fine. And if they were abusuve I would never see them again. As I said previously, I have regulars now and I very very rarely see new clients. It's just not worth the worry or the money to take any chances.

PucaMama

Noddyholder wrote: »

Why do you think men go to them ? and mostly married men at that ?


From Ben dunne to joe soap....

because they get away with it. they can always go with the "my wife wont have sex any more" excuse. who are people going to believe? bit like the "herself wont let me out this weekend" excuse.

professore

PucaMama wrote: »

except that is cheating. even if the wife says yes its just approved cheating.

you always hear the hes unhappily married excuse for married men using prostitutes, its a handy way of excusing the behaviour.

It is cheating, you are correct. And I detest cheating. Other forms of cheating are not illegal though, just this one.

Noddyholder

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

It is funny to see so many liberal posts towards prostitution when you consider that if this conversation came up within a group friends in real life that I think it would be incredibly rare to see people voice those type of views. I often wonder about the duality of our nature with regards stuff like this as to how we have been conditioned to act and say certain things IRL that don't align in anyway with our views when put behind a keyboard anonymously.

Tis the shame of talking about sex in Ireland, we are still miles behind having open & frank discussion's about sex & may God strike down the first TD who brings it up.

PucaMama

professore wrote: »

It is cheating, you are correct. And I detest cheating. Other forms of cheating are not illegal though, just this one.

that doesnt mean it should be legal. or encouraged.

professore

Noddyholder wrote: »

Why do you think men go to them ? and mostly married men at that ?


From Ben dunne to joe soap....

I think you should ask Lara that and not make assumptions. That's the stereotype that it's mostly married men but there are lots of stereotypes around this area.

professore

PucaMama wrote: »

that doesnt mean it should be legal. or encouraged.

I don't think it should be encouraged, just not illegal. It's not the state's job to be moral policemen. Trafficking, pimping etc should absolutely be illegal. But independent women making money on the side? No way. Add morally, some single man occasionally having paid sex and the women making good money out of it? Don't see a problem.

Grayson

Sound Bite wrote: »

But surely if these men are afraid of and are intimidated by the average woman, then would find an experienced prostitute even more intimidating or am I missing something?

Not really. If it's emotional intimacy that scares them then they can get a facsimile of it without the actual risk.

Noddyholder

PucaMama wrote: »

because they get away with it. they can always go with the "my wife wont have sex any more" excuse. who are people going to believe? bit like the "herself wont let me out this weekend" excuse.

Do think they are excuses or are they real ? I posted this earlier on

Sex is a huge taboo in Ireland, & yes you can trace it back to the strangle hold the CC had on the country, Most of the major European countries have legalised clubs & brothels & are run on strict safe & secure guidelines.

I find nothing wrong with men who go to these establishment's for relief, In many cases married men go there because its not happening at home for what ever reason & instead of rocking the boat in what is most likely a good relationship they go get sex/relief elsewhere without attachments.

As for Male escorts for women, In Ireland that's a very secret circle, but go outside and its there, We all have heard of the women who travel to turkey & morocco to get them self's a toy boy, Its a huge business there for bored & frustrated women.

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PucaMama

professore wrote: »

I don't think it should be encouraged, just not illegal. It's not the state's job to be moral policemen. Trafficking, pimping etc should absolutely be illegal. But independent women making money on the side? No way.

and how do you plan to police it? ireland does not need prostitution legalised.

what is the next thing people wont want the state being "moral policemen" about?

Noddyholder

professore wrote: »

I think you should ask Lara that and not make assumptions. That's the stereotype that it's mostly married men but there are lots of stereotypes around this area.

O its Lara now is it :pac::pac::pac::pac::D

professore

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

It is funny to see so many liberal posts towards prostitution when you consider that if this conversation came up within a group friends in real life that I think it would be incredibly rare to see people voice those type of views. I often wonder about the duality of our nature with regards stuff like this as to how we have been conditioned to act and say certain things IRL that don't align in anyway with our views when put behind a keyboard anonymously.

I think if you are in a group where someone gets on a moral crusade about how misogynistic and abusive prostitution is, do you think anyone is going to answer honestly? I'm lucky enough to have a group of friends that we can discuss topics like this and we can agree to disagree.

LaraLushhhhh

Noddyholder wrote: »

O its lara now is it :pac::pac:

Hahaha

Sound Bite

professore wrote: »

If you wanted a doctor for a suspected STD, would you be more intimidated walking into a bar and asking every man there if he could help, in the hope one of them was a doctor, or going to your local GP? Would the fact the GP had seen it before make it more intimidating? Seems obvious to me.

It may seem obvious to you but it doesn't to me. I would have thought that if a man is having issues with confidence when it comes to women then choosing one who is far more confident and experienced than him would be more intimidating than seeking out a women more likely to be in a similar situation to himself.

I must life in a bubble anyway where the vast majority of my friends seem happy with their sex lives (some small dry spells after first child was born in a lot of cases but nothing permanent or long term from what i'm told!) & that most women I know enjoy sex as much as men!!

PucaMama

Noddyholder wrote: »

Do think they are excuses or are they real ? I posted this earlier on

Sex is a huge taboo in Ireland, & yes you can trace it back to the strangle hold the CC had on the country, Most of the major European countries have legalised clubs & brothels & are run on strict safe & secure guidelines.

I find nothing wrong with men who go to these establishment's for relief, In many cases married men go there because its not happening at home for what ever reason & instead of rocking the boat in what is most likely a good relationship they go get sex/relief elsewhere without attachments.

As for Male escorts for women, In Ireland that's a very secret circle, but go outside and its there, We all have heard of the women who travel to turkey & morocco to get them self's a toy boy, Its a huge business there for bored & frustrated women.

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its excuses and stereotypes of the nagging boring wife used to their advantage. once upon a time sex wasnt everything in a relationship.

oneilla

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

It is funny to see so many liberal posts towards prostitution when you consider that if this conversation came up within a group friends in real life that I think it would be incredibly rare to see people voice those type of views. I often wonder about the duality of our nature with regards stuff like this as to how we have been conditioned to act and say certain things IRL that don't align in anyway with our views when put behind a keyboard anonymously.

Not too surprising that people don't or wouldn't talk about it in public, sure look at the mud thrown across either side in this thread: men pay for sex are deviants, anyone opposed to it are prudish, out of touch etc. It's a very divisive topic.

Mind you though some people just aren't hugely comfortable discussing their sex lives in public anyway.

professore

My apologies Ms Lushhh.

I know nothing about you but I have a lot of respect for.you that you posted on here. I think everyone could learn a lot from you (myself included) instead of just having their own entrenched opinions.

Noddyholder

PucaMama wrote: »

its excuses and stereotypes of the nagging boring wife used to their advantage. once upon a time sex wasnt everything in a relationship.

Its still not, but its an important part for both in a realionship, For two long in this country sex was just for procreating and not for enjoyment, If the demand for these ladys were not here they would not be here, and they have been here since civilastion began.

PucaMama

Noddyholder wrote: »

Its still not, but its an important part for both in a realionship, For two long in this country sex was just for procreating and not for enjoyment, If the demand for these ladys were not here they would not be here, and they have been here since civilastion began.

publicly sex was presented as being for procreation. but it private it was whatever the couple wanted. which isnt exactly a bad behaviour.

of course theres a demand for them. they make themselves available. offer something and it will be taken.

Fred Swanson

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Wang Kerr

PucaMama wrote: »

publicly sex was presented as being for procreation. but it private it was whatever the couple wanted. which isnt exactly a bad behaviour.

of course theres a demand for them. they make themselves available. offer something and it will be taken.

Oh so we're blaming the girls now?.... Catholic church 101 right there

Fred Swanson

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professore

PucaMama wrote: »

and how do you plan to police it? ireland does not need prostitution legalised.

what is the next thing people wont want the state being "moral policemen" about?

Do you mean policing the trafficking /pimping side of it? You police it like any other criminal activity. And adultery is legal - should that be illegal too? That is definitely worse than an unattached person having sex and paying for it? Or should we arrest people for cheating on their wife or husband? Genuine question.

Grayson

Sound Bite wrote: »

It may seem obvious to you but it doesn't to me. I would have thought that if a man is having issues with confidence when it comes to women then choosing one who is far more confident and experienced than him would be more intimidating than seeking out a women more likely to be in a similar situation to himself.

I must life in a bubble anyway where the vast majority of my friends seem happy with their sex lives (some small dry spells after first child was born in a lot of cases but nothing permanent or long term from what i'm told!) & that most women I know enjoy sex as much as men!!

There are some stereotypes being bandied around. Women have hundreds of reasons for having sex with men and hundreds of reasons not to. To say it's because they have got enough from the relationship or anything like that is very reductive.

Likewise I'd imagine there are many reasons that people go to sex workers or become sex workers.

PucaMama

Wang Kerr wrote: »

Oh so we're blaming the girls now?.... Catholic church 101 right there

i was under the impression the seller offers and the buyers take??