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Tripadvisor negative reviews

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  • 24-02-2017 2:29pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭


    I recently submitted a negative review to tripadvisor about a stay I had in a "top" hotel in the country.

    The review was long and detailed, was pending for 2 days and was then published. Checked back this week and poof it was gone.

    i also posted a positive review about a different hotel I recently stayed in and that one is still there.

    Tripadvisor has some shady bias i think :cool:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    I recently submitted a negative review to tripadvisor about a stay I had in a "top" hotel in the country.

    Your review was 'long and detailed' - may we ask why so detailed?

    Was any aspect of your review positive or was it a complete hatchet job?
    Tripadvisor has some shady bias i think :cool:

    Most of which are planted positive reviews i.e. Tripadvisor's biggest problem is fake reviews which undermine the real reviews.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭Delacent


    Would you not have written to the hotel first and see if they would remedy the issue?

    Why do people rush to "punish" places without exhausting the normal decent channels of restitution.

    My guess is you exaggerated something and made a defamatory statement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    Get onto TripAdvisor & complain. Ask why it has been taken down & their integrity as an independent medium is in question. Don't drop it. Bad hotel is bad hotel - why should the enable & facilitate bad hotels/service etc. Get an answer - from them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭dubrov


    They take it down if it violates their guidelines. Some people just end up ranting.

    Contact them and they should tell you why it was removed?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,090 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I leave a lot of reviews on trip advisor. I feel that a lot of people waste their time with their reviews. I ignore all one star reviews as most of these are people ranting. A one star review isn't a review if you leave after 10 minutes because you haven't been served.
    I usually leave 3 to 5 star reviews.
    My own business is online. I have 13 Google reviews eleven are 5 star & two are 1 star. The 1 stars didn't like the advice I gave over the phone (your shower is too old and should be replaced). So the two 1 star reviews tell you nothing about my business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    I've posted a number of reviews on TropAdviser, mostly very positive because I'm just not motivated to post a review about an average experience.

    I once posted a negative review but after a few weeks it was taken down. Obviously TripAdvisor have every right to what they publish on their platform, but they didn't involve me in any process at all before taking down my review. They didn't even inform me that it was being removed.

    That definitely puts me off posting reviews on their site - reviewers are their bread and butter, so if they aren't willing to engage with reviewers about contested reviews, then reviewers aren't going to engage with them either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Trip Advisor might have received a complaint from the hotel that something in the review was untrue. You might think it's fair comment but the hotel may have disagreed and it's Trip Advisor who are on the hook for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,024 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Main reasons I've seen for reviews getting removed are them being ranty, patently exaggerated or naming or hinting at the identities of specific staff. The publishing seems to be semi-automated so these get through. If your review didn't do any of these, I'd ask what rule it broke.

    Checked my negative reviews and they're all still there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,584 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    People give negative reviews for the most stupid reasons.

    I've seen people negatively commenting about the weather on campsites or that the pool area was noisy. I think a lot of people have expectations that their stay will be perfect and if this isn't delivered for any reason they bash onto the Internet to rant. But the truth is often it's no responsibility of the eatablishment.

    I really think that only in instances where the establishment have been given opportunity to remedy the problem but fail to do so, then they should be reviewed poorly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭Teddington Cuddlesworth


    Can you copy and paste the review here op, leaving the hotel name or any identifying features out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    I stopped reading TA reviews a long time ago. Too hard to differentiate the genuine ones from the fake good or bad reviews.

    I was in a restaurant once with friends and one of them said to me not to eat the steak as they had read a bad review of that restaurants steak on TA.
    But there was no steak on the menu!


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    L1011 wrote: »
    Main reasons I've seen for reviews getting removed are them being ranty, patently exaggerated or naming or hinting at the identities of specific staff.

    Naming staff is a total no-no as far as I'm concerned and I'd agree 100% if TA have a policy of pulling any reviews which attempt to 'get at' named individuals. Anyone can be having a bad day and to post a review on a public site naming them for what was probably a minor transgression is very bad form - just say that the service was bad or the barman was rude but FFS do not name them.

    On the other hand, praise for named individuals is one of my red flags for planted fake reviews, especially for unspecific service - 'Jane on reception was so welcoming and couldn't do enough for us' - the first part is what she's paid to do and the second part is meaningless without saying exactly what she did above and beyond the call of duty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    _Brian wrote: »
    People give negative reviews for the most stupid reasons.
    saw this one on facebook for a takeaway. 3/5 stars, sounds like they like the food too
    called in this evening to get some nice food and needed cash back as atm was out of service,was told they don't do cash back , they will take my order by card but won't do cash back. Bye bye Sabba to go won't be back.


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    Delacent wrote: »
    Would you not have written to the hotel first and see if they would remedy the issue?

    Why do people rush to "punish" places without exhausting the normal decent channels of restitution.

    My guess is you exaggerated something and made a defamatory statement.

    Because sometime people don't want to complain as they are not looking for any recourse, but they want to advise future customers of any shortfalls.
    If I stay in a dive in another country, I'm certainly not looking for money off any future stays. And the likelyhood of any refund is 0%, so what's wrong with leaving an honest review

    These reviews are their to reward good service and punish bad service. Any right thinking person will roll their eyes if a bad review just details nonsense, which a lot of them do, which can funny. Generally if I read 10 good reviews, and the one bad review which mentions the spider in the bathroom, I'm going to get a good idea of a hotel. But if all 10 reviews are all commenting on the same bad points, well, don't book it


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    TripAdvisor would be a pretty useless service if people only posted positive reviews - what would be the point of that?
    The way I generally use it is not by reading the individual reviews, but by looking at the aggregate ratings. If a place gets a lot of reviews and they're mostly positive, then that's on my shortlist. Or if I'm visiting a city I'm not familiar with, I'll get a list of the most popular attractions as a kicking off point.

    The business owners have a right to reply where they can challenge or explain bad reviews anyway. But they are being unfair to reviewers when they take down negative reviews without even informing reviewers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,541 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    I only ever read negative reviews, then make up my own opinion on weather it's a rant or accurate.

    I tend to ignore reviews by Americans or Germans as they are usually stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    I have put down ~150 trip advisor reviews over ten years and have yet to have one removed. I read back over them the odd time if i am going back to a place. Only two of those were 1 star... and that was for a serious problem or some kind of health hazard. think "poo floating in the swimming pool."

    And if I ever say something like that, I add a photo to back it up.

    I've never mentioned staff by name, and I always make sure my reviews are specific.

    mine over overwhelmingly positive though. If i like something or someplace I will say it. It's people's livelihood's your messing with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Some are just clearly sheer bad temper after a bad day. I have had only one refused and the reason was valid enough; I had not been able to access the facilities and TA said that therefore it was not a valid comment on the facilities.When I go on the site, they still ask me for a report on that site...

    They let all kinds through. Like the comment re Priests Leap, a wild wild drive, that there were no bathrooms at the top...American of course.

    But ranting attacks? No way. Diverging thoughts on how much it cost get interesting too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,541 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Judging by the attitudes here, hotels and restaurants don't need to try too hard at all. The practice of only giving good reviews and seeing all negative ones as wrong makes the standards so much worse for us all.

    Not all negative ones are wrong , just those by Americans and Germans.

    Americans would give machu piacco a bad review for not having a Starbucks, or a three star a bad review for not having a bell boy. They tend to lack taste and prefer false modern not authentic goods and services.
    Germans are just mad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    All negative reviews are not 'wrong', it's just that an awful lot of them are done for pure revenge and not as a public service i.e. as objective guidance for other travellers and diners.

    You can quickly detect when a review is done for all the wrong reasons and in most cases you can write the reviewer off as someone with an axe to grind or who started off with unrealistic expectations e.g. they arrived to their three star hotel at 10 p.m. and found that the restaurant was closed so they write a long harangue about the crap hotel that made Fawlty Towers look like the Ritz!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Diziet


    ted1 wrote: »
    Not all negative ones are wrong , just those by Americans and Germans.

    Americans would give machu piacco a bad review for not having a Starbucks, or a three star a bad review for not having a bell boy. They tend to lack taste and prefer false modern not authentic goods and services.
    Germans are just mad.

    Not a lot of stereotyping going on there at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,457 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    For most service providers in the travel business, you sound like the customer from hell. What you're saying is that you should not draw attention to any deficiencies on the spot (where they could be fixed), instead you fume away all week, then you go home and whinge about it on TA.
    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Who is this generic 'they'? The Four Seasons? A B&B in Kinsale? A three star family resort in the Canaries? Prices are different and so are standards, you cannot apply the same benchmarks to all businesses.
    Patww79 wrote: »
    I want better service, not apologies.

    Better than what? Sounds to me like you're just looking for something to complain about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭Guy Sajer


    Went on a walking tour in London recently and the guide told us someone once 1 starred her on TA because it was raining.

    It's stories like that why TA is dying a death. Motivation to give a bad review comes around far easier than to sit down to give a good review.

    I usually leave a few weeks before I leave a review to give time to get over initial annoyance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,541 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Diziet wrote: »
    Not a lot of stereotyping going on there at all.

    Complete stereo typing which when reading negative reviews transpires to be accurate


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Patww79 wrote: »
    But all this 'offer the hotel the chance to remedy's is wrong. If it's bad it's bad and with the prices they charge then they need to be on the ball at all times. I want better service, not apologies.

    Dear God, is this the post of man who has never once had a bad day at work or whose service to his employer or a customer has never fallen short?, I salute you, you are one of a kind.

    For most of us a hotel or restaurant experience involves many people and services, reception staff, room, cleaning staff, waiting staff, bar staff, chefs etc. Any one of these can put in a "bad shift" which can cause a customer to become disgruntled. But I believe it is the hotels response which is all important, if they tell you to F off then the problem is endemic and they should receive a bad review. If on the other hand you receive an apology for their short comings and an offer of redress, then you can take for granted that your complaint is being taken seriously and that they understand your unhappiness.

    There are bad hotels, but there are also bad customers. If you don't tell them while you are there then you do not give them the opportunity to address your concerns.

    Nightmare customers often leave long ranting reviews which appear to emotional and in some ways vindictive. Like others have said, I ignore the ones which have gushing praise and the ones which are hatchet jobs, the truth usually lies with the majority of posts which are in between


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