Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Osmosis Jones

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Didn't the club or Klopp say that the the summer business was virtually completely already at the end of the season too?

Klopp said something like that but I think it was a case of his not-perfect English. Pretty sure what he was saying is that they know they want and have their targets organised.

One_Of_Shanks

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Klopp said something like that but I think it was a case of his not-perfect English. Pretty sure what he was saying is that they know they want and have their targets organised.

Yeah spot on. He was trying to say they'd completed all the scouting work and had the list of who to go after.
He just didnt quite word it right

Buford T. Justice XIX

What we need is to improve our ball retention.

eyerer

DrumSteve wrote: »

I still think Sahko could do a job for us but I suppose that ship has sailed

Imo, you would think Southampton would be happy with Sakho plus money. Sakho too, since they're a better side than Palace.

eyerer

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

City don't make themselves strong, they makes others weak. They have used this tactic for years now. They buy Arsenals top players and throw them into reserves and then move them abroad. They are a bit of a joke.
They will more than likely buy Sanchez too. That will be 6 of Arsenals best players in last few season they have bought. It works though, Arsenal have not competed in League because of it, job done by City.
They done it with Sterling too .

Hope they don't buy Pogba

Daemonic

eyerer wrote: »

Imo, you would think Southampton would be happy with Sakho plus money. Sakho too, since they're a better side than Palace.

Assuming we're looking for 30m for Sakho, they're unlikely to spend that on a player even in an exchange deal. Based on their past record in plucking gems out of nowhere, they probably have a replacement lined up for 10m or so and just waiting for the sale of VvD to be completed.

Agent Coulson

I say match Alderweireld's buyout clause at Spurs which by all accounts is very low and offer him VVD's wages which would be about three times what he's on at Spurs.

Harry Palmr

Soton are probably looking at some kid in Austria or Scotland.

Meanwhile Klopp favourite Max Meyer has refused new deal at Schalke 04, he is a free agent in 12 months so the club will surely look to sell.

Agent Coulson

A few of beINSPORTS reporters are now saying the Salah transfer is a done deal at €40m.


Also the Express (isn't there a connected journo there?) say we will be meeting with Lacazette's agent early next week.

Harry Palmr

It must be true

indykaila News‏ @indykaila 49m49 minutes ago
Exclusive: Mohammed salah transfer fee has been agreed with @LFC & @Roma for 40 million euros... #LFC

NukaCola

How do people feel about Salah? He's done very well by all accounts, looks a quality player. Is he a starter though?

eyerer

I'm happy if we've got him. His record is very good and he's pacy so hopefully like another Mane. Like people said before very useful against 10 man defences like Utd. Options and squad depth, which are needed.

Turtyturd

Haven't seen much of him but if Klopp wants him that's good enough for me.

Gbear

NukaCola wrote: »

How do people feel about Salah? He's done very well by all accounts, looks a quality player. Is he a starter though?

There's two issues with our attack - patchy at killing off games if teams don't roll over and breaking down stubborn defences more consistently.

Both will go someway to circumventing our defensive problems.

Dramatic improvement to our flaccid counter-attack.

That alone could be huge.

Also, 19 goals and 12 assists is better than anyone at the club last year.

He's not coming to make up the numbers.

poolboy

eyerer wrote: »

I'm happy if we've got him. His record is very good and he's pacy so hopefully like another Mane. Like people said before very useful against 10 man defences like Utd. Options and squad depth, which are needed.

Ive liked this purely for the "10 man defences" bit:)

super_furry

Haven't see Salah since his Chelsea days but if he has as much pace as he did then, he'll do.

Osmosis Jones

Salah is a definite starter, himself and Mane will take a wing each. Coutinho central with those two making runs in behind will have us seeing a lot more of Phil's through balls.

NukaCola

NukaCola wrote: »

How do people feel about Salah? He's done very well by all accounts, looks a quality player. Is he a starter though?

Can't see him putting coutinho on the bench... if salah starts maybe coutinho takes lallana midfield spot. But lallanha has done very well there.

Many games though so not bothered really

Gbear

Augeo wrote: »

Can't see him putting coutinho on the bench... if salah starts maybe coutinho takes lallana midfield spot. But lallanha has done very well there.

Many games though so not bothered really

Different starters and bench options will suit different opponents.

I wouldn't change the front 6 from this season for the games against the top 6. They went about as well as you could hope.

However, I don't think Firmino and Lallana are as effective against packed defences.

Salah off the bench if we take the lead at home will be lethal as well.

Our level of quality isn't right yet, but having different options and being able to change a game from the bench is also hugely important. Depth is another thing but that's a given.

rob316

I was at the Roma vs juventus game a couple of weeks back. the worst stadium to watch a match by the way.
Salah was outstanding. Every bit as good as mane, pacey, very direct and a constant threat.

Delighted if we get this over the line. Genuine starting quality and the calibre of player we should be signing with champions league football to offer.

marklazarcovic

Mane,Salah , lacezette ... Would be droooool

marklazarcovic

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Mane,Salah , lacezette ... Would be droooool

I hope if we get salah done that a striker will be signed too. Mane & salah would allow for some 4 4 2 against the dogged defences of the PL.

Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/871381137784025088

Utopia Parkway

super_furry wrote: »

Haven't see Salah since his Chelsea days but if he has as much pace as he did then, he'll do.

He's still rapid. Will have plenty of pace on the wings with him and Mane.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Limerick or Clare in the Munster hurling semis today lads I have a liking for Clare myself.

Clare won :pac:

murpho999

Strange that people ask if Salah is a starter.

Do people think Liverpool would spend £35-40m on a player and put him on the bench?

cj maxx

murpho999 wrote: »

Strange that people ask if Salah is a starter.

Do people think Liverpool would spend £35-40m on a player and put him on the bench?

Is he signed or or they looking at him ?

One_Of_Shanks

Agent Coulson wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/871381137784025088

haha you could see Neville checking to see who was coming and then thinking ****e I better get rid of this fast

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

Strange that people ask if Salah is a starter.

Do people think Liverpool would spend £35-40m on a player and put him on the bench?

Who goes to the bench ?

eyerer

Hope Tottenham don't become interested in Salah anyways

Salah a done deal then?

Turtyturd

Biggest concern would be will his performances in the retirement home league transfer over to the PL.

Turtyturd

Turtyturd wrote: »

Biggest concern would be will his performances in the retirement home league transfer over to the PL.

Didn't realise he was at Utd?!

Agent Coulson

murpho999 wrote: »

Strange that people ask if Salah is a starter.

Do people think Liverpool would spend £35-40m on a player and put him on the bench?

Firmino cost £30m
Lallana cost £25m
Mane cost £30m
Coutinho cost £8m
Salah cost £35m?
Wijnaldum cost £23m
Henderson cost £16m
Can cost £9m
New midfielder cost £50m?


So Coutinho cost the least and is our best player but by your logic he probably wouldn't even make the bench.

Klopp will pick the team he thinks will win the match no what price the player cost.

Harry Palmr

Augeo wrote: »

Who goes to the bench ?

Depends on the formation and game/competition I imagine.

Salah would be a man for the CL I think - there tends to be space as teams actually try to play to win as a rule.

Front five

---Lallana---Coutinho
Salah---Firmino---Mane

swap Lallana for Wijnaldum as required

Osmosis Jones

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Depends on the formation and game/competition I imagine.

Salah would be a man for the CL I think - there tends to be space as teams actually try to play to win as a rule.

Front five

---Lallana---Coutinho
Salah---Firmino---Mane

swap Lallana for Wijnaldum as required

That's what I'm thinking, on paper it looks lightweight but Lallana is more than capable of holding his own as a CM, with Can/Henderson/Someone new behind them I think that'll be our best line up.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

......
Front five

---Lallana---Coutinho
Salah---Firmino---Mane

swap Lallana for Wijnaldum as required

Looks like a DM is a must so

NukaCola

murpho999 wrote: »

Strange that people ask if Salah is a starter.

Do people think Liverpool would spend £35-40m on a player and put him on the bench?

Whats strange about it? I dont think price makes anyone an automatic starter. Fees are stupid atm.

If he comes in then Coutinho doesn't start up top, which probably means Coutinho goes deeper, which puts Lallanas place under threat. Both were instrumental in how we play. You cant really have Lallana and Coutinho in a Midfield 3, well you can but its super offensive.

Its a valid question IMO.

NukaCola

Augeo wrote: »

Looks like a DM is a must so

Kante would struggle to cover the holes that front 5 will leave behind them! :pac:

All our front 5 were out for significant periods I this season I think. No shortage of playing time especially with European games.

NukaCola

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Depends on the formation and game/competition I imagine.

Salah would be a man for the CL I think - there tends to be space as teams actually try to play to win as a rule.

Front five

---Lallana---Coutinho
Salah---Firmino---Mane

swap Lallana for Wijnaldum as required

Poor Firmino will be bollixed next season trying to keep up with the two lads on a counter!

Harry Palmr

I don't think that line up is fundamentally more expansive than the

---

Wiji

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Lallana
Mane---Firmino--Coutinho

we saw last season for a few months when the team was flying, its just got more pace.

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BorneTobyWilde

What happened this guy at Chelsea?
He was so bad they could not even field him .

murpho999

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Firmino cost £30m
Lallana cost £25m
Mane cost £30m
Coutinho cost £8m
Salah cost £35m?
Wijnaldum cost £23m
Henderson cost £16m
Can cost £9m
New midfielder cost £50m?


So Coutinho cost the least and is our best player but by your logic he probably wouldn't even make the bench.

Klopp will pick the team he thinks will win the match no what price the player cost.

Where did I say that Coutinho should be benched?

He was a signing where the scouts came up trumps, he has developed to be come a very important player for us and has a huge value now.


However, if we're buying a player for £35-40m which will be the most expensive signing in the club's history, then I believe it to be a major signing and the expectation is he'll be in the normal starting eleven.

That said, I think next season will see lots of change. Different formations and systems for different games.
That's why we struggled last season when struggling against lesser teams, not enough flexibility in the squad to adapt to how teams played against us and I think that will change next season so that players will be rotated more.

J Mysterio

ricero wrote: »

This summer is so important we just have to bring in quality and improve the team. Last time we got champions league fsg made a complete ****ing mess of it. Hopefully they learn their mistakes and pay for quality over quantity or we will be back to square one

Pretty sure every post you make in this thread is disparaging FSG in some way or another.

dzer2

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What happened this guy at Chelsea?
He was so bad they could not even field him .

They never had ant intention of playing him.

Agent Coulson

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What happened this guy at Chelsea?
He was so bad they could not even field him .

Jose promised him the world..Brendan didn't.

This transfer always felt to me was Jose just flexing his muscle on Brendan to show him he was still the boss.

"Negotiations took a long time, because Basel rejected more than one offer. They felt the transfer fee was not that high. I was waiting for Liverpool [to agree terms with Basel] because I really like Liverpool. I was eager to join them.

"But then I received a phone call from Mourinho and that changed everything. He explained the situation to me and told me that he needed me at Chelsea. That was one of the main reasons why I joined Chelsea.

"Mourinho told me that he thought I was a good player and that he wanted me to pick Chelsea."

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2016/04/03/21988152/salah-i-rejected-liverpool-for-mourinho

Turtyturd

J Mysterio wrote: »

Pretty sure every post you make in this thread is disparaging FSG in some way or another.

Rumours you're correct.

BorneTobyWilde

Where does he play. We have signed a player no one else wanted from a club happy to sell him. It's hardly inspiring.
He's for bench right? In case Mane gets injured

Turtyturd

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Where does he play. We have signed a player no one else wanted from a club happy to sell him. It's hardly inspiring.
He's for bench right? In case Mane gets injured

Yep Mane, the last player no one else wanted from a club happy to sell him.

Try harder Toby.