Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Agent Coulson

You have to feel for Fun Bobby setting it on a T for Lallana and then celebrating only to turn around and not see a goal.




Oh ye and what a touch by Fun Bobby to lay the ball off.

mormank

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Have to say even if the foul on Sterling was spotted and a penalty and red card given, I'd just be happy knowing Sterling didn't score against us.

But sterling didn't score against us.

sword1

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Absolutely. Worst I've ever seen him and both teams can feel hard done by.

He seemed to be struggling to keep up with the game, is there a tracker of how many km the ref covers per game like the players?

Osmosis Jones

mormank wrote: »

But sterling didn't score against us.

Yeah I know, I'm saying that even if Milner's foul was spotted and he was sent off, it'd still be worth it :P

Kerrigooney

sword1 wrote: »

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Absolutely. Worst I've ever seen him and both teams can feel hard done by.

He seemed to be struggling to keep up with the game, is there a tracker of how many km the ref covers per game like the players?

Maybe he's still getting over the stag party. He was on that, right?

mormank

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Yeah I know, I'm saying that even if Milner's foul was spotted and he was sent off, it'd still be worth it :P

Ah...:o

mosstin

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Absolutely. Worst I've ever seen him and both teams can feel hard done by.

On Milner being booed...they booed the Champions League music several times ffs. They're hardly the sharpest chisels in the box.

I thought they were bellends to boo Milner but I applaud them booing that CL thing where they're supposed to stand like it's the national anthem of UEFA.

daithijjj

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You have to feel for Fun Bobby setting it on a T for Lallana and then celebrating only to turn around and not see a goal.




Oh ye and what a touch by Fun Bobby to lay the ball off.

Maybe its just me but when i watched it Firmino clearly has his eyes on the pass and only drops to his knees in an 'OMFG, howd you miss that' fashion when the chance is missed.

Kerrigooney

mosstin wrote: »

I thought they were bellends to boo Milner but I applaud them booing that CL thing where they're supposed to stand like it's the national anthem of UEFA.

Didn't they boo it because they thought there was some kind of conspiracy against them? They make it into Europes elite football competition and they're cryarsing cos they have to play some decent teams? Idiots.

6am7f9zxrsjvnb

sword1 wrote: »

Alot of those that don't think it was a foul are not Liverpool fans and only having a laugh at everyone replying

No..Mane kicked him in the calf.
Foul on Sterling was a blatant red and penalty.

hefferboi

Edward Straight Wattage wrote: »

No..Mane kicked him in the calf.
Foul on Sterling was a blatant red and penalty.

Clueless

Osmosis Jones

Can should've been off too for trying to headbutt Toure's foot.

OwaynOTT

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Can should've been off too for trying to headbutt Toure's foot.

Exactly, it wasn't toure's fault can made contact with his foot.




In fairness to the ref, the weather conditions must have made it hard yesterday.

charolais0153

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Exactly, it wasn't toure's fault can made contact with his foot.

A yes but tou're moved his foot toward can and mane moved his foot toward otamendi

Harry Palmr

Ireland look out!

sweetie

J Mysterio wrote: »

Said the same thing to the old man. He was a loyal servant and only left cos he couldnt get a game. Surely no one can question Milners character? Boggles the mind.

I think they booed him because of him running down his contract despite being clearly wanted at city and then moving to Lfc to play his favoured midfield role and now he's in the same position as before at city, a utility man. A bit harsh but understandable I guess.

sword1

sweetie wrote: »

I think they booed him because of him running down his contract despite being clearly wanted at city and then moving to Lfc to play his favoured midfield role and now he's in the same position as before at city, a utility man. A bit harsh but understandable I guess.

He left because he was not getting a starting place and could see he would be getting less opportunities in the future. He is starting at Liverpool. Many players who left Liverpool get welcomed back when they play at anfield. If anything he was pushed out at city

BullBlackNova

sword1 wrote: »

He left because he was not getting a starting place and could see he would be getting less opportunities in the future. He is starting at Liverpool. Many players who left Liverpool get welcomed back when they play at anfield. If anything he was pushed out at city

He absolutely was not pushed out at City. Pellegrini spoke publicly on more than one occasion about how he wanted to keep Milner.

He left because he wanted to play centrally, something that Rodgers promised him. It's a little funny, then, that he has ended up as our starting left-back, of all things.

City fans booing him was stupid. It's just another element of the tribal nonsense of football these days - "You used to play for us, now you don't. Therefore, I hate you." That's all it is...

Some City fans have tried to justify it claiming that his celebrations against them when he scored last year annoyed them. Similarly, there were suggestions that he spoke negatively about the club in public, praised Klopp, etc. but none of that is unusual for any footballer - he's hardly going to say "Yeah Liverpool is good, the hugs are great and Lallana runs a lot, but I sure miss Silva and Aguero" now is he?

The booing of former players is something I really hate about football. You see it everywhere and it just makes everyone seem a bit childish IMO.

MD1990

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ireland look out!

I think we will be looking out for Bale rather than 2 players who very likely won't play.

paulie21

Off to Tenerife for warm weather training. Henderson is going with them and could be available for the derby. Sturridge didn't travel

Chardee MacDennis

paulie21 wrote: »

Sturridge didn't travel

I presume it's precautionary, he may get injured due to the change in pressure of the plane taking off and landing...

NukaCola

I doubt we'll see Sturridge play another game for Liverpool.

corwill

NukaCola wrote: »

I doubt we'll see Sturridge play another game for Liverpool.

Apparently it's his hip, again, and he's staying in Liverpool for rehab. If it is his hip, you'd have to wonder what's left to be done with it at this stage.

Agent Coulson

Maybe he could hop to save the pressure on his hip.

J Mysterio

Yeah, pretty sure its over now for Sturridge.
It is unbelievable to think he is only 27. He should only now be entering his peak years.

I suppose he would be super back up but really i'm finding it hard to care anymore.

corwill

corwill wrote: »

Apparently it's his hip, again, and he's staying in Liverpool for rehab. If it is his hip, you'd have to wonder what's left to be done with it at this stage.

Fowler had his more or less removed, cleaned and put back in iirc.

All this play through the pain barrier .... made of cardboard etc etc (not to mention the mental health allegation from our resident neuroscience expert) is all well and good but if there's something wrong with the hip than it's an issue.

citytillidie

So people going on about Liverpools form against bottom team but ignoring that those games were away from home, when playing such teams at home Liverpool have found it easier

Everton - Top 10
Bouremouth - Bottom 10
Stoke - Top 10 A
WBA - Top 10 A
Palace - Bottom 10
Watford - Bottom 10 A
Southampton - Top 10
West Ham - Bottom 10 A
Middlesbrough - Bottom 10

So going by Liverpools form the games in bold are the only ones they should be worried about

Mr.H

citytillidie wrote: »

So people going on about Liverpools form against bottom team but ignoring that those games were away from home, when playing such teams at home Liverpool have found it easier

Everton - Top 10
Bouremouth - Bottom 10
Stoke - Top 10 A
WBA - Top 10 A
Palace - Bottom 10
Watford - Bottom 10 A
Southampton - Top 10
West Ham - Bottom 10 A
Middlesbrough - Bottom 10

So going by Liverpools form the games in bold are the only ones they should be worried about

Our issue is more against teams who are willing to sit back and catch us on the break.

Bournemouth scored 4 against us
West brom scored 2
they both beat us by the way

Palace scored 2
west ham got a draw at anfield

In fact in the reverse fixtures of the remaining games we got 20 points from 27. That would leave us on 76 and hoping its enough for Champions league.

Im not usually pessimistic and when I am watching these games I truely will fancy our chances. I just hope that we dont underestimate the teams we are up against.

Stay tight at the back and take our chances. 1-0 wins are all we need. Run the clock down and just be professional about it. Our gung ho approach at times is a little naive

mightyreds

citytillidie wrote: »

So people going on about Liverpools form against bottom team but ignoring that those games were away from home, when playing such teams at home Liverpool have found it easier

Everton - Top 10
Bouremouth - Bottom 10
Stoke - Top 10 A
WBA - Top 10 A
Palace - Bottom 10
Watford - Bottom 10 A
Southampton - Top 10
West Ham - Bottom 10 A
Middlesbrough - Bottom 10

So going by Liverpools form the games in bold are the only ones they should be worried about

How many do guys think we need to win/draw to get top 4?

On a side note was the player of the year thread pruned or were some posters just embarrassed by what they wrote?

Iused2likebusts

citytillidie wrote: »

So people going on about Liverpools form against bottom team but ignoring that those games were away from home, when playing such teams at home Liverpool have found it easier

Everton - Top 10
Bouremouth - Bottom 10
Stoke - Top 10 A
WBA - Top 10 A
Palace - Bottom 10
Watford - Bottom 10 A
Southampton - Top 10
West Ham - Bottom 10 A
Middlesbrough - Bottom 10

So going by Liverpools form the games in bold are the only ones they should be worried about

Stoke and wba and even watford away are really tough games for us. They won't pass it out from the back and have a big height advantage. I'd expect a minimum of 12 from the 4 home games. Win 2 of the 4 away games and I'd say that's enough for top 4.

mada999

MD1990 wrote: »

A Mourinhp coached team would have surrounded the referee.

or a big shout moan and roll over 3 times...

~Rebel~

mightyreds wrote: »

How many do guys think we need to win/draw to get top 4?

On a side note was the player of the year thread pruned or were some posters just embarrassed by what they wrote?

To hit my target of 2ppg, we need 20 more points which looks totally doable. Could stand to lose 1, and draw 2.

Wouldn't be surprised if we dropped another point or two, which would leave us around 74 or 75, which might still be enough, depending on how the other top 6 results go against each other.

mightyreds

mightyreds wrote: »

How many do guys think we need to win/draw to get top 4?...........

I reckon 74 points will do it, to get 74 pts Man Utd need 2ppg from their remaining 11 fixtures, I think that's a tall ask all considered.

We need 2ppg too from our remaining 9 games but we have no EL or any other distractions so you'd have to fancy us really to get that. Admittedly not so much if you look at our haul over the last 10 PL games, which is 13 points.

Arsenal need 24pts from 11 games to hit 74 points, dunno can they turn recent form around that quickly and sustain it.

I reckon it's ours to lose currently.

brevity

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ireland look out!

https://twitter.com/bririley70/status/843946149820190720

BullBlackNova

Augeo wrote: »

I reckon 74 points will do it, to get 74 pts Man Utd need 2ppg from their remaining 11 fixtures, I think that's a tall ask all considered.

We need 2ppg too from our remaining 9 games but we have no EL or any other distractions so you'd have to fancy us really to get that. Admittedly not so much if you look at our haul over the last 10 PL games, which is 13 points.

Arsenal need 24pts from 11 games to hit 74 points, dunno can they turn recent form around that quickly and sustain it.

I reckon it's ours to lose currently.

United's two games in hand give them the advantage but they have some very tough fixtures in that spell.

WBA are a tough nut, though I'd expect United to beat them.

But beyond that, a very in-form Everton side (who will hopefully be on the back of a derby defeat ), Chelsea, away to Burnley (where most sides have struggled this year), away to City, away to Arsenal and away to Spurs.

Also Palace and Swansea, who may well need to win to survive, for example.

But even taking those two as a gimme for Man United, the other 6 games are all very difficult to call. They always seem to beat Spurs and Arsenal are spiralling, but you wouldn't be confident making a call about the derby or away to Burnley.

The thing is, though, is that Mourinho has made them very difficult to beat - you'd fancy them to draw a few of those games rather than lose them, for e.g.

That said, our bad form against the lower sides in the league is a worry when they make up the bulk of our games.

And all that is ignoring the fact that Arsenal (and potentially Everton) are also in the race. Nothing can be taken for granted and there are definitely some twists and turns.

I think the fact that we are currently in 4th is a boost - but we need to get some momentum going over the next 5/6 games.

Utopia Parkway

BullBlackNova wrote: »

United's two games in hand give them the advantage but they have some very tough fixtures in that spell.

One of those is away to City. Hard to peg that down as a guaranteed 3 points for them.

NukaCola

United have won one game from the top 6 so far this season. They haven't been beating the top sides. Chelsea at home and City/Arsenal/Spurs away are difficult. The way some people are going on their games in hand may as well be 6 points already.

Not writing them off, but if they get top 4 they will have absolutely deserved it.

Mr.H

United are in no way favourites. Games in hand mean nothing. Our biggest game is everton and thats it.....................

City Arsenal Spurs and United all have bigger games left. Sure there are games in hand but there are also difficult games that they will take points from each other. As things stand we are favorites for a top 4 and the bookies agree.

If Arsenal or United take it from us it is on merit alone and nothing to do with games in hand.

4 points ahead of United and they have all the other 5 teams from the top 7 left to play.

BullBlackNova

BullBlackNova wrote: »

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I think the fact that we are currently in 4th is a boost - but we need to get some momentum going over the next 5/6 games.

Indeed, over the next 9 games we have to improve on 1.3ppg (our 2017 PL form) but I have no doubt we will.

We have less to do than any of our rivals, as you say we are 4th now with less games to play than Utd and Arsenal.

If Everton finish above us we'll have thrown it away totally.

Iused2likebusts

Utd have to go to arsenal, spurs, city, Burnley and Southampton they are all really difficult fixtures for them. They also play Chelsea at home. Mourinho will have to do something he doesn't usually do in big games and that's attack as draws won't be enough for them in all those big games. It will be interesting to see how that pans out.

brevity

brevity wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bririley70/status/843946149820190720

It's the hairstyles
the ole side part coming back.

Turtyturd

NukaCola wrote: »

I doubt we'll see Sturridge play another game for Liverpool.

If there's nothing to play for in the last home game he might get a run out to say goodbye, if he can get his sh!t together.

I know there's a few crystal balls predicting great things for him once he's gone but really can't see it being any different to the last few years, the odd decent spell amongst the injuries and his inability to cope with the pressure of being the main man.

Said it a few times but I still think MLS would be the best bet for him. Could probably still demand a decent wage off the back of his 'Van Persie' season, less intensity to the game which might see him manage to play more and the lower standard wouldn't make his decline as noticeable. Also a better lifestyle and more opportunities to engage in his other pursuits.

mightyreds

Augeo wrote: »

Indeed, over the next 9 games we have to improve on 1.3ppg (our 2017 PL form) but I have no doubt we will.

We have less to do than any of our rivals, as you say we are 4th now with less games to play than Utd and Arsenal.

If Everton finish above us we'll have thrown it away totally.

Yeah i think we might just get it 5/6 wins and a couple of draws maybe if we dont mess up and the others ovetake us they will have deserved it as they have some tough fixtures

jcsoulinger

NukaCola wrote: »

I doubt we'll see Sturridge play another game for Liverpool.

Ya looks that way, It's heart breaking as a fully fit in form Sturridge is something to behold.

5starpool

mightyreds wrote: »

Yeah i think we might just get it 5/6 wins and a couple of draws maybe if we dont mess up and the others ovetake us they will have deserved it as they have some tough fixtures

If we get 6 wins from our last 9 games, even with 3 losses, I'd be very surprised if we don't get top 4 given how tough the run ins for Arsenal (and their bad form) and Utd are. Getting those points is the trick though. We need to win our 5 home games anyhow.

sword1

5starpool wrote: »

If we get 6 wins from our last 9 games, even with 3 losses, I'd be very surprised if we don't get top 4 given how tough the run ins for Arsenal (and their bad form) and Utd are. Getting those points is the trick though. We need to win our 5 home games anyhow.

One of them is going to go on a winning run of games

Iused2likebusts

sword1 wrote: »

One of them is going to go on a winning run of games

Then spurs or city will be dropping points.

Gbear

I'd think the games against Everton, Bournemouth and Boro will all be fairly safe bets. Probably Palace as well.
They're must win at any rate.

We're probably going to drop points in most of the games against Stoke, WBA, Watford, Southampton, West Ham.
The first 3 in particular are kryptonite to us. West Ham are wildly inconsistent and Southampton, at least, is at home but I wouldn't be surprised if we won none of them.

That'd put us on 70ish pts. Doubt it'd be enough.
Think we'll need at least another 2 big results from those 5 games.

sword1

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Then spurs or city will be dropping points.

Spurs have 3 points, a game in hand and 9 goal difference, they have a bit of wiggle room. City are more realistic for us to pass

NukaCola

I think we'll need to get over that 2 ppg. 19/20 points from those 9 games will get us top 4.