La La, La La, La La Land

valoren

Never a more apt use of the phrase 'You had one job to do'

If there was a mix up with the envelope for a 'minor' category like sound editing or some such is one thing, but that it happened during the main category, the biggest award of the night is fishy.

So, A PR stunt?

ricero

The applaud of meryl streep was one of the most disgusing public liberal ass licking ive ever seen. I say the donald had the last laugh last night after such a mess

Richard Hillman

I find this mistake difficult to believe. After all these years, with plummeting ratings, they made this mistake, for the most important moment of the night? It wasn't best make-up or best sound, it was best film? Nah

I reckon they gave them the wrong card, expected the 2 people to work it out and build the tension to ask for the correct card but the female host just shot her load and read. Warren Beatty copped it and didn't read it out. I have no idea why Warren Beatty is copping anything on this, he did the right thing.

murpho999

valoren wrote: »

Never a more apt use of the phrase 'You had one job to do'

If there was a mix up with the envelope for a 'minor' category like sound editing or some such is one thing, but that it happened during the main category, the biggest award of the night is fishy.

So, A PR stunt?

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I find this mistake difficult to believe. After all these years, with plummeting ratings, they made this mistake, for the most important moment of the night? It wasn't best make-up or best sound, it was best film? Nah

I reckon they gave them the wrong card, expected the 2 people to work it out and build the tension to ask for the correct card but the female host just shot her load and read. Warren Beatty copped it and didn't read it out. I have no idea why Warren Beatty is copping anything on this, he did the right thing.

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy theory.

This was a plain and simple screw up.

tigger123

murpho999 wrote: »

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy theory.

This was a plan and simple screw up.

That's just what they want you think. The liberal elite of Hollywoo will blame Trump somehow. Just wait and see.

snowflaker

Are you tigger123 or triggered123? 😊

Hande hoche!

Silly PWC.

ebbsy

Michelle_b wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/02/27/oscars-mistake-really-happened-warren-beatty-wrongly-awarded/

Here it is explained really well and PWC have issued apologies. Wrong card given out. Producer for Lala land even admits card he was holding on stage said Emma stone La la la land... what a mess up!!!

Handing somebody the right envelope....that is a difficult job alright !

murpho999

tigger123 wrote: »

That's just what they want you think. The liberal elite of Hollywoo will blame Trump somehow. Just wait and see.

Who the hell are the liberal elite of Hollywood?

Yourself isit

neonsofa wrote: »

I do think Faye just didn't cop the Emma stone part was wrong and she just saw la la land. I don't think she realised anything was wrong.

Surely the card said Best Actress on it somewhere.

PopePalpatine

murpho999 wrote: »

Who the hell are the liberal elite of Hollywood?

They ruined Mountain Dew & Doritos, or something else which angers Trump's fanboys. :rolleyes:

mikeoneilly

I thought Beatty handled it well afterwards in giving an explanation for the screwup

Crea

I'm delighted that Trump didn't tweet anything during the Oscars. Jimmy Kimmel was goading him so that everyone could mock Trump.
I'm no fan of Trumps and am all for intelligent debate but Kimmels behaviour was just childish

Cee-Jay-Cee

learn_more wrote: »

Who's stayin up to watch the Oscars ?

I hope la la, la la, la la, la la Land doesn't land as many Oscars as is predicted. I love films but I abhor all musicals without exception. It couldn't possibly be as good as ppl are sayin, someone is lying. I think the academy figured that since they didn't have a huge movie blockbuster this year they would just pretend they had knowing that most folk wouldn't know whether LLL was any good or not.

.

Your dead right, it was complete and utter unadulterated shíte. I was forced against my will to watch it by my wife. After 15 minutes we switched it off as she agreed that it was slow dull boring uninspiring rubbish. How the fück it was even nominated is beyond me!!

murpho999

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Your dead right, it was complete and utter unadulterated shíte. I was forced against my will to watch it by my wife. After 15 minutes we switched it off as she agreed that it was slow dull boring uninspiring rubbish. How the fück it was even nominated is beyond me!!

15 minutes, wow you really gave it a chance and got into the story.

No film can be judged after 15 minutes.

AndyBoBandy

murpho999 wrote: »

No film can be judged after 15 minutes.

The Karate kid (the one with Will Smiths son) could be judged after 15 seconds!!

Instant classic!! move over Citizen Kane, theres a new king in town

Cee-Jay-Cee

murpho999 wrote: »

15 minutes, wow you really gave it a chance and got into the story.

No film can be judged after 15 minutes.

If a film can't capture your attention within the first 15 minutes then it can't be very good. I have watched plenty of films where the first 15 minutes might have been slow but with la la land the first 15 minutes were dire, absolutely no redeeming storylines or anything even mildly interesting. It was pure horseshîte. .

tigger123

murpho999 wrote: »

Who the hell are the liberal elite of Hollywood?

I was taking the piss.

tigger123

La La Land is good, I thought it lacked a bit of chemistry between the two leads tbh though.

Plus, the sound design didn't really work for me, I expected full on technicolor sound for the big musical numbers, which it didn't have.

But the ending was excellent. Really worked for me and lifted the entire film.

Moonlight is a worthy winner though, its hard to fault it, an excellent film!

murpho999

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

If a film can't capture your attention within the first 15 minutes then it can't be very good. I have watched plenty of films where the first 15 minutes might have been slow but with la la land the first 15 minutes were dire, absolutely no redeeming storylines or anything even mildly interesting. It was pure horseshîte. .

You've missed out on a lot of good films then.
Plenty of films have had strange/odd starts but develop as the film goes on.

thomasj

not the only mistake they made on the night................
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/feb/27/the-other-oscars-gaffe-dead-woman-janet-patterson-jan-chapman-from-in-memoriam-montage-is-still-alive

Sam Kade

murpho999 wrote: »

15 minutes, wow you really gave it a chance and got into the story.

No film can be judged after 15 minutes.

If any film doesn't captivate its audience at the beginning then it truly must be sh1te.

DEFTLEFTHAND

As expected Jimmy Kimmel was utterly cringeworthy. I thought all of these Hollywood assholes would have emigrated by now??

At least he lives in a country where one as the right to mock the office of President on national television and not face any consequences.

RobertKK

I was watching it in bed, for the simple reason I knew I would fall asleep.

I watched about 25 minutes before I was in lala land. I woke up many hours later and it was a great sleep.

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone else think the la la land producer was a bit of a brat? Grabbing the envelope from Beatty, and then making a big show of being 'proud' to hand the award to his 'friends'. Then again, Twitter is saying that he acted with 'grace and dignity', so it could be just me

How was he a brat, when he ensured that his film didn't get the prize and the correct film did.

I thought he handled it very well.

So if he hadn't said anything, his film would have got the Oscar?

abdulabduler

Has to be the worst movie ever created, when I watched I felt embarrassed for the people that were watching with me.

Rothko

abdulabduler wrote: »

Has to be the worst movie ever created, when I watched I felt embarrassed for the people that were watching with me.

I haven't seen it but I sincerely doubt it's the worst movie ever made.

Beard Boss

There's a bit of a conspiracy around the best picture award. Apparently Emma Stone had the card with her name on it for best actress. So Warren Beatty couldn't have been holding it on stage.

Also I've heard that The academy made a last minute decision to give the award to Moonlight. Because of the recent bad press that the Oscars are racist and excluding black movies and actors. Also The move is more progressive, with LGBT issues

JP Liz V1

abdulabduler wrote: »

Has to be the worst movie ever created, when I watched I felt embarrassed for the people that were watching with me.

Do you mean La La Land, it wasn't that bad

LordSutch

Beard Boss wrote: »

Apparently Emma Stone had the card with her name on it for best actress.
So Warren Beatty couldn't have been holding it on stage.

The truth of what happened in the 'mix up' is much more mundane.

Warren Beatty & Faye Dunaway had (mistakenly) been given a red envelope for the winner of another catagory :eek:

Warren opened the envelope, looked at it in disbelief, he then fixed a long puzzled gaze at his co host 'Faye Dunnaway' ... she then took the envelope from his hands and announced "And the winner is LaLaLand" . . . . .

We now know that Warren & Faye had been given the wrong envelope.

Fred Swanson

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JP Liz V1

Does the winner take the envelope with their award so I assume Emma would have hers

dotsman

Beard Boss wrote: »

There's a bit of a conspiracy around the best picture award. Apparently Emma Stone had the card with her name on it for best actress. So Warren Beatty couldn't have been holding it on stage.

Also I've heard that The academy made a last minute decision to give the award to Moonlight. Because of the recent bad press that the Oscars are racist and excluding black movies and actors. Also The move is more progressive, with LGBT issues

And that's why intelligent people don't believe in "conspiracy theories". It has already been perfectly explained. There are 2 of every envelope (in case one gets lost/damaged). The PWC folk simply handed Warren the wrong envelope.

Even if that wasn't the case, have a little think about your conspiracy theory. Are you actually trying to say that, in the few seconds between handing Warren the envelope and him opening it, "they" changed their minds and decided to award it to someone else???

snowflaker

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Does the winner take the envelope with their award so I assume Emma would have hers

See previous post.


Anyway. It was the stonecutters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSpOjj4YD8c

bobmalooka

Beard Boss wrote: »

There's a bit of a conspiracy around the best picture award. Apparently Emma Stone had the card with her name on it for best actress. So Warren Beatty couldn't have been holding it on stage.

Also I've heard that The academy made a last minute decision to give the award to Moonlight. Because of the recent bad press that the Oscars are racist and excluding black movies and actors. Also The move is more progressive, with LGBT issues

I doubt two senior partners in the biggest accounting firm in the world would sh!t all over their own careers to give the oscars a little bit of diversity cred.

It was a mess up and the other PwC firms will want to see heads roll.

The reality is at this stage of their careers they haven't done any grunt work in years, they just manage relationships/the business.

They took on this grunt work so they'd get to rub shoulders with Hollywood stars, it backfired badly.

snowflaker

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pwc-partner-in-charge-of-oscar-winner-envelopes-was-tweeting-backstage-minutes-before-best-picture-mix-up-1488227883


Tweeting accountant

Rawr

Ah La La Land....what an ironically appropriate title (and not in the way they probably meant).

I was never a fan of musicals before, but Mrs. Rawr had converted me somewhat, and I had learned to like such a film when it was done well.

Throughout the cavalade of over 50 years of cinema shown to me, I began to get a sense of what made a good musical while learning to my surprise where some well known songs had come from. In the process I had also discovered two distinct types of musical:

A) The well-rounded film that just happens to be a musical.

The thrown together film that is just serves as filler between songs.

Alas, there were many less good / abysmal films that belong in Type B. "La La Land" also belongs to this group.

I watched the film a couple of weeks ago, and from end-to-end it felt like an exercise in "Making a musical for the sake of having a musical". The cinematography was extremely well done, I'll give it that, but beneath the gloss there was nothing much of substance. The characters were hollow and easily forgotten, the 'story' was thin as hell and it just draaaaaaaaged on, and on, and ooooooon, lurching from one well shot song to another. Watching La La Land was a chore.

So not a very good flick in general, but worse still it was something else I generally dislike as a rule. "La La Land" is pure Oscar Bait.

Over the past few years, whenever a musical manages to generate buzz in the beginning of the year, it is the token Oscar Bait project. The film is created specifically for Academy nomination and awards, and the entire marketing drive around the film counts on it (you'll notice they very often have dark coloured posters...ideal for an Oscar mention on the bottom)

I have a general dislike for films that were only made for the sake of slapping itself on the back. The title was designed to be said well over and over again on Oscar night. The shiny visuals are there just to be shown in clips when the film is nominated / awarded. ...and the music is there...well...because you have to do *something* with the rest of the 2 hours.

La La Land was a shiny well-filmed exercise in how to take big-ticket actors, throw together a lackluster musical, and run laughing to be bank on the back of Oscar-generated hype.

I am therefore delighted that it didn't win Best Picture, and got less than half of the awards they expected.

...not that Oscar Awards / Nominations every really told us anything meaningful about a film's quality....

abdulabduler

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do you mean La La Land, it wasn't that bad

No it wasn't, it was absolutely abysmal.

ChikiChiki

This is annoying me now. The bloke who made the fcuk up is being flogged to death by the media and Hollywood. Id say he is mortified. Emma Stone said it was the worst moment of her life and comments like that don't help. These people dont live in the real world. Get over it, mistakes happen. They are only human.

Richard Hillman

bobmalooka wrote: »

I doubt two senior partners in the biggest accounting firm in the world would sh!t all over their own careers to give the oscars a little bit of diversity cred.

It was a mess up and the other PwC firms will want to see heads roll.

The reality is at this stage of their careers they haven't done any grunt work in years, they just manage relationships/the business.

They took on this grunt work so they'd get to rub shoulders with Hollywood stars, it backfired badly.

I wouldn't be feeling sorry for the 2 at all. The reality is, if you have progressed high in accounting and especially for a company like PWC, you're probably not a nice person.

I'm sure there are plenty of juniors who worked under them over the years that are having a wail of a time.