I've SWITCHed! - General discussion - WARNING IN POST 1

CastorTroy

Next week after the surprise drop at The Game Awards.

Hey_Listen

CastorTroy wrote: »

Next week after the surprise drop at The Game Awards.

I tell you. people would be crying into their series Xs and PS5s if that was dropped

CastorTroy

I would be happy with footage of 1 of several things from the Game Awards. BotW2, Metroid Prime 4, Metroid Prime Trilogy or to a lesser extent, Bayonetta 3.

Star Lord

CastorTroy wrote: »

Metroid Prime 4

Really doubt that will be any time soon, given development was scrapped and restarted, but I'd absolutely love to be proven wrong!

CastorTroy

Maybe they can show an updated logo

CastorTroy

Wasn't the first BotW gameplay shown at the Game Awards? Where they were riding through the trees saying how the horse knew not to run into trees.

Hey_Listen

CastorTroy wrote: »

Wasn't the first BotW gameplay shown at the Game Awards? Where they were riding through the trees saying how the horse knew not to run into trees.

That demo looked so bad. But they didn't seem bothered. Think they knew they had another 3 years / whatever to finish the game.

CastorTroy

Quick question. Are the likes of Smyths and Argos now open for just going in and buying things or are they still Click and Collect only?

Ol' Donie

CastorTroy wrote: »

Quick question. Are the likes of Smyths and Argos now open for just going in and buying things or are they still Click and Collect only?

Wandered in to Smyths to grab a present yesterday.

Took 2 mins, deadly.

CastorTroy

Thanks. Parents will be doing shopping in the coming days and they're not tech savvy so having to do click and collect would mean either going somewhere else or having me do it for them. Probably not the best way to do things if buying presents for me.

WeleaseWoderick

Today is the 4th anniversary of the Switch's release! Hard to believe it has been out that long!

At this stage I've accumulated more games (mainly digital releases) for it than any previous system I've owned. I think with a couple more years of quality games, it might end up being my favourite system too.

dominatinMC

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

Today is the 4th anniversary of the Switch's release! Hard to believe it has been out that long!

At this stage I've accumulated more games (mainly digital releases) for it than any previous system I've owned. I think with a couple more years of quality games, it might end up being my favourite system too.

Don't think anything will ever trump the N64 for me! The transition from 2D to 3D was such a dramatic paradigm shift that I don't think we can capture that sense of awe and wonder again. Such an exciting time to be a gamer!

CiDeRmAn

dominatinMC wrote: »

Don't think anything will ever trump the N64 for me! The transition from 2D to 3D was such a dramatic paradigm shift that I don't think we can capture that sense of awe and wonder again. Such an exciting time to be a gamer!

Be glad you aren't posting this on the Arcade and Retro forum!
While you'll find plenty of fans of the system, including me, many more will say that the only way to enjoy those games these days is via emulation.
Alone, the chance to rid yourself of the over-enthusiatic anti-aliasing is worth doing it.
And, while I agree that the shift from SNES to N64 was a massive leap, it doesn't always make it consistently better, certainly there are more must play titles on the SNES than the N64 can dream of, at least in this jaded old gamers opinion!

The Nal

Only truly outstanding Nintendo only game I've played on the Switch so far is BOTW.

Grassey

[ The transition from 2D to 3D was such a dramatic paradigm shift that I don't think we can capture that sense of awe and wonder again. ![/quote]

Did you not see that rumour that the SuperSwitchPro will be in 4D.

barryribs

The Nal wrote: »

Only truly outstanding Nintendo only game I've played on the Switch so far is BOTW.

I'd throw Odyssey in there too. Overall very underwhelmed by the library, as someone who has all the games ported from the WiiU.

CiDeRmAn

I'm pretty amazed at Doom on the Switch, as well as the excellent version of Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit.
I know they are also on other systems and looking better there, but there is something pretty cool at playing them when in handheld mode.

fixXxer

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm pretty amazed at Doom on the Switch, as well as the excellent version of Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit.
I know they are also on other systems and looking better there, but there is something pretty cool at playing them when in handheld mode.

Apex legends next week could be another surprise hit. I hope it is.

CastorTroy

Another comparison to make between Switch and N64. Neither have a Metroid game. (Ignoring the Switch online games)

YoshiSays

Looks like the Switch can natively play or emulate all the previous console stuff.
e.g. All the WiiU stuff ports fine.
e.g. All the Wii stuff ports with HD improvements (Galaxy, SS).
therefore everything before easily ports or emulates on it.
It does portable, docked and supports motion control.
So, they are covered for wii, gb, ds, ...

So, It's a great Nintendo machine.
Except for those dumb dumb joycons.
They need to fix that.

Also, coming from WiiU it isn't amazing. But it's just more convenient. And simpler.

(edit)
Also, the name and the click and the moving switch icon is genius.
So, they've knocked this out of the park marketing wise.
Also, it's a universal console. Really, they've entered Apple territory with that.

Meanwhile, Sony and MS are "ugh, me kill bad guys with big machine guy and watch head explode in 4k. You can play this with Family, No?"

CiDeRmAn

The closest Sony have gotten to Nintendo quality gaming goodness are Tearaway on the PSVita, Puppeteer on the PS3, and their outstanding Astrobot series, the latest of which on the PS5 is amazing

YoshiSays

I think they generally take the less risky investment. Teenage/adult male gamers.
Maybe it's a guaranteed gaming audience ... but they are leaving the market wide open to Nintendo.
Also, maybe it really hard to create a really playable game with universal appeal.
MS had to pay bazillions for Minecraft. They knew this stuff doesn't grow on trees

recyclops

So with gyro controls (eugh) I've managed to turn them off for indivual games but can you just disable them altogether? I tried searching settings but that's calibrate.

Just want rid of the annoying things.

YoshiSays

Oh no - I love gyro controls in BOTW - you can (example) aim the bow with fine precision ... and use in conjunction with the controller ...

But if you really want to turn them off, use a controller that doesn't support gyro controls.

most FPS games just wouldn't work on switch portable without gyro aiming as the right-joycon stick on its own is very poor for aiming

recyclops

YoshiSays wrote: »

Oh no - I love gyro controls in BOTW - you can (example) aim the bow with fine precision ... and use in conjunction with the controller ...

But if you really want to turn them off, use a controller that doesn't support gyro controls.

It's BOTW I'm currently playing and want to turn them off for and that's done.

But can you just tell the console to turn em off for good?

recyclops

recyclops wrote: »

It's BOTW I'm currently playing and want to turn them off for and that's done.

But can you just tell the console to turn em off for good?

don't think so - only by game.

Mr E

More Switch Pro rumours (but in Bloomberg)

Switch Pro launching later this year, with 7 inch OLED screen from Samsung, 4k docked, 720p portable.

Bloomberg: Switch Pro being unveiled later in 2021, has bigger Samsung OLED display & 4k resolution in docked mode
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04/nintendo-plans-switch-model-with-bigger-samsung-oled-display

Mr E

Mr E wrote: »

More Switch Pro rumours (but in Bloomberg)

Switch Pro launching later this year, with 7 inch OLED screen from Samsung, 4k docked, 720p portable.

Bloomberg: Switch Pro being unveiled later in 2021, has bigger Samsung OLED display & 4k resolution in docked mode
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04/nintendo-plans-switch-model-with-bigger-samsung-oled-display

Hopefully it packs more powerful hardware, not just a resolution boost. Oh, and analogue sticks that don't drift!

CiDeRmAn

Mr E wrote: »

More Switch Pro rumours (but in Bloomberg)

Switch Pro launching later this year, with 7 inch OLED screen from Samsung, 4k docked, 720p portable.

Bloomberg: Switch Pro being unveiled later in 2021, has bigger Samsung OLED display & 4k resolution in docked mode
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04/nintendo-plans-switch-model-with-bigger-samsung-oled-display

Yep, the news has been predicted since the blasted thing was released!
But it is great to get news of a proper hardware refresh, though I imagine this may herald its replacement in 2022

YoshiSays

Sounds like a better docked experience.
Maybe this time, there will be extra hardware in the dock.
Or maybe it was there all along and we just thought it was an expensive bit of Nintendo plastic

seamus

YoshiSays wrote: »

Sounds like a better docked experience.
Maybe this time, there will be extra hardware in the dock.
Or maybe it was there all along and we just thought it was an expensive bit of Nintendo plastic

Extra hardware in the dock is complicated from an OS point of view, and will be less seamless of a transition between states. Especially when you have a six year old who pops it in and out 20 times in 30 seconds.

They might provide the option of a "Pro" dock with more hardware in it, then at least you can make the base unit more affordable, and the kind of person who buys a Pro dock would be more forgiving & gentle with it.

Longing

If this is true at 720 again. How disappointing. With the larger screen you will notice the difference was 1080 to much to ask.

McFly85

Genuinely confused by this. I mean, it it's supposed to be out by the end of the year and Nintendo haven't announced it yet, it sounds like it's a hardware revision moreso than the next generation of switch.

Why bother? The current one is still selling well. You'd have to assume the new one would cost more to make at the start too.

Also, is 4K support for the current generation of switch games really a necessity?

It will also take away from the eventual Switch 2 announcement, which you would expect to have 4k and a bigger screen.

It sounds like a hardware revision for a very small amount of consumers.

Mr E

Another mid generation hardware revision I think. Same as 3DS and New 3DS.

I know a lot of people who will upgrade from the 6.2 inch version (me included, I upgraded to the red box version when it came out).

The Nal

Longing wrote: »

If this is true at 720 again. How disappointing. With the larger screen you will notice the difference was 1080 to much to ask.

Got a new projector. Horace and especially BOTW looks glorious on it. Annoyed now I played BOTW on my old 720p projector. The difference is huge.

CiDeRmAn

Mr E wrote: »

Another mid generation hardware revision I think. Same as 3DS and New 3DS.

I know a lot of people who will upgrade from the 6.2 inch version (me included, I upgraded to the red box version when it came out).

I, too, am a sucker for their hardware revisions, though I didn't spring for the last new version with the improved battery.
I will certainly be pre-ordering this as soon as it is announced.

But, again, I do think it will herald a new piece of hardware, probably announced at next years E3.
I don't think people could have realistically expected a wholly new system only four years downstream from the Switch and its launch.

RocketRaccoon

If they don't call it the Super Nintendo Switch then I'm not interested.

Is there any indication that something other than the screen will be upgraded?

must be using DLSS to get to a docked AI-produced 4k (upscaled from 1440p)

wonder what cpu it is - most likely the Nvidia Tegra Xavier as it has Tensor cores required for DLSS

unless there is a custom chip

YoshiSays

I don't think there will ever be a "new" Switch.
It'll be continuous revisions/incremental improvements. e.g. like iPhone and Android. Maybe not as often
They've got a very successful platform now with backward compatibility + a cloud service. Does docked and portable.

Longing

Longing wrote: »

If this is true at 720 again. How disappointing. With the larger screen you will notice the difference was 1080 to much to ask.

a lot of the time the current switch is not outputting at 720p at all in handheld

e.g. Doom, Witcher, Xenoblade etc are at 360p at lot of the time on portable

A 720p screen with OLED at actual 720p on a 7 inch screen would look good and still has a good pixel density

CastorTroy

Can we just insert a 4MB expansion pak?

YoshiSays

CastorTroy wrote: »

Can we just insert a 4MB expansion pak?

Yes, for 1 frame of 4K animation

CiDeRmAn

CastorTroy wrote: »

Can we just insert a 4MB expansion pak?

I have nightmares about Perfect Dark...
But then I wake up, get a glass of water and go back to sleep.
Then I have nightmares about Perfect Dark Zero...

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there any indication that something other than the screen will be upgraded?

no details on the cpu, ram, memory bandwidth side but there will be an upgrade there also.

but probably not as much as some expect - it will be incremental rather than a huge jump.

some commentators have said to expect something in the line of the 3DS vs new 3DS capability

but that should be enough to push out higher framerates all the same - e.g. even going from 30fps to 60 fps in a lot of games (which has already been done by people over-clocking existing switch hardware with custom firmware)

this guy is good on these sort of matter - worth a watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aT5vv6gVP8

RobbingBandit

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I have nightmares about Perfect Dark...
But then I wake up, get a glass of water and go back to sleep.
Then I have nightmares about Perfect Dark Zero...

Might I recomend daydreaming about Rare Replay

CiDeRmAn

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Might I recomend daydreaming about Rare Replay

I have it, tried it, thought that Perfect Dark needed some love, then realised that it was horribly dated and no fun at all.

Blastcorps is still just outstanding and needs a Switch release asap

RobbingBandit

Blastcorps was fun Jet Force Gemini was epic

CiDeRmAn

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Blastcorps was fun Jet Force Gemini was epic

Agreed
But...
They really really needed to fix the controls, they were awful.
And they didn't, it's a pig to control on the XB1