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Sam675 · 22-03-2018 4:11pm

Who is the new examiner ?

yournerd · 22-03-2018 4:17pm

Sam675 wrote: »

Who is the new examiner ?

Ray Murphy external and Neil Maddox internal.

Teamhrach · 22-03-2018 4:44pm

I know this is a bit of a stupid question BUT.... what chapter is trusteeship under - I'm working from an ICD manual? Is it to do with the appointment of trustees, retirement, removal, duties? I really don't like trusts!

And I can't find donatio mortis causa either

I'm concentrating on these:
- QT
- Mareva
- Estoppel
- Charitable trusts
Trying to pick other topics

Toga Stroll · 22-03-2018 4:54pm

Teamhrach wrote: »

I know this is a bit of a stupid question BUT.... what chapter is trusteeship under - I'm working from an ICD manual? Is it to do with the appointment of trustees, retirement, removal, duties? I really don't like trusts!

And I can't find donatio mortis causa either

I'm concentrating on these:
- QT
- Mareva
- Estoppel
- Charitable trusts
Trying to pick other topics

Donatio is express and yeah that’s all trusteeship

Fergalr2092 · 22-03-2018 4:55pm

Teamhrach wrote: »

I know this is a bit of a stupid question BUT.... what chapter is trusteeship under - I'm working from an ICD manual? Is it to do with the appointment of trustees, retirement, removal, duties? I really don't like trusts!

And I can't find donatio mortis causa either

I'm concentrating on these:
- QT
- Mareva
- Estoppel
- Charitable trusts
Trying to pick other topics

Trusteeship should be a chapter in itself - duties, powers and liability of trustees.

And maybe consider doing Constructive Trusts too and Resulting Trusts and Undue Influence.

Teamhrach · 22-03-2018 4:58pm

Thank you! I'll probably do those

jus_me · 22-03-2018 5:13pm

Any advice for those sitting in Oct from the exam today? scary it's a new examiner !!!

Tony_TwoLegs · 22-03-2018 5:26pm

Now I'm paranoid there will be a new Equity examiner if they're not announcing. Which would mean all bets are off for the morning as anything could rear it's head. (Exasperated emoji)

jazzypatty89 · 22-03-2018 5:29pm

jus_me wrote: »

Any advice for those sitting in Oct from the exam today? scary it's a new examiner !!!

It wasn’t the WORST exam in the world so sorry to scare you! It just wasn’t expected. When studying past papers you’ll notice a repeat in questions.. those questions will more than likely not arise on future papers anymore so just don’t rely on them and sample answers as much when studying and you’ll be fine

Tony_TwoLegs · 22-03-2018 5:29pm

Teamhrach wrote: »

I know this is a bit of a stupid question BUT.... what chapter is trusteeship under - I'm working from an ICD manual? Is it to do with the appointment of trustees, retirement, removal, duties? I really don't like trusts!

And I can't find donatio mortis causa either

I'm concentrating on these:
- QT
- Mareva
- Estoppel
- Charitable trusts
Trying to pick other topics

You'd want to look at Strong v Bird too if doing DMC (constituted trusts)
I'd look more to Cy Pres as Charitable Trusts was a PQ last time.
Recession have a gander at too.

Fergalr2092 · 22-03-2018 5:45pm

Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »

You'd want to look at Strong v Bird too if doing DMC (constituted trusts)
I'd look more to Cy Pres as Charitable Trusts was a PQ last time.
Recession have a gander at too.

The PQ last time on Charitable Trusts was Cy Pres, which is why its being assumed that pure Charitable may arise this time, is it not?

angela1711 · 22-03-2018 5:59pm

Anyone has a list of predictions for tomorrow and will be willing to share it ?
Also, what topics came up in October 2017?

Tony_TwoLegs · 22-03-2018 6:00pm

Fergalr2092 wrote: »

Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »

You'd want to look at Strong v Bird too if doing DMC (constituted trusts)
I'd look more to Cy Pres as Charitable Trusts was a PQ last time.
Recession have a gander at too.

The PQ last time on Charitable Trusts was Cy Pres, which is why its being assumed that pure Charitable may arise this time, is it not?

Well, Cy Pres was a feature of the PQ but along with Charitable aspects as a whole.
Cy Pres can be an essay.
Of course, charities might skip this paper. So, don't waste too much time on new material at this stage imho.

Tony_TwoLegs · 22-03-2018 6:05pm

angela1711 wrote: »

Anyone has a list of predictions for tomorrow and will be willing to share it ?
Also, what topics came up in October 2017?

1. Secret Trusts and Advancement PQ
2. Anton Piller essay
3. Constructive Trust PQ
4. Tracing essay
5. Charities PQ
6. Specific Perform essay
7. Rectification/ Satisfaction/ Unincorp Notes
8. Q.Timet PQ

To coin the phrase "on the balance of probabilities" I'd leave out 1/2/4/6/7

Supermax1988 · 22-03-2018 6:19pm

Fergalr2092 wrote: »

The PQ last time on Charitable Trusts was Cy Pres, which is why its being assumed that pure Charitable may arise this time, is it not?

In her exam report for October she was very critical of how the Cy-Pres aspect was handled in that question so I wouldn't be surprised to see an essay on Cy-Pres this time around.

angela1711 · 22-03-2018 6:24pm

Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »

1. Secret Trusts and Advancement PQ
2. Anton Piller essay
3. Constructive Trust PQ
4. Tracing essay
5. Charities PQ
6. Specific Perform essay
7. Rectification/ Satisfaction/ Unincorp Notes
8. Q.Timet PQ

To coin the phrase "on the balance of probabilities" I'd leave out 1/2/4/6/7

Are these topics that came up last year or predictions for tomorrow ? If these are the predictions then I am screwed lol

Tony_TwoLegs · 22-03-2018 6:31pm

angela1711 wrote: »

Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »

1. Secret Trusts and Advancement PQ
2. Anton Piller essay
3. Constructive Trust PQ
4. Tracing essay
5. Charities PQ
6. Specific Perform essay
7. Rectification/ Satisfaction/ Unincorp Notes
8. Q.Timet PQ

To coin the phrase "on the balance of probabilities" I'd leave out 1/2/4/6/7

Are these topics that came up last year or predictions for tomorrow ? If these are the predictions then I am screwed lol

That's October's paper!!
I failed it (47%).
Predictions: I'd say Trusteeship, Rescission, Unconstituted Trusts, Cy Pres for a start

angela1711 · 22-03-2018 6:33pm

Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »

That's October's paper!!
I failed it (47%).
Predictions: I'd say Trusteeship, Rescission, Unconstituted Trusts, Cy Pres for a start

That's much better. Thanks :pac:

david_etc · 22-03-2018 6:35pm

Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »

That's October's paper!!
I failed it (47%).
Predictions: I'd say Trusteeship, Rescission, Unconstituted Trusts, Cy Pres for a start

I failed it too, took a punt on not doing injunctions and of course two questions came up on it...

My wish list would be Mareva essay, Dishonest Assistance essay, Trusteeship PQ w/ Hasting Bass, some sort of question about Strong v Bird or DMC

Tony_TwoLegs · 22-03-2018 6:43pm

david_etc wrote: »

Tony_TwoLegs wrote: »

That's October's paper!!
I failed it (47%).
Predictions: I'd say Trusteeship, Rescission, Unconstituted Trusts, Cy Pres for a start

I failed it too, took a punt on not doing injunctions and of course two questions came up on it...

My wish list would be Mareva essay, Dishonest Assistance essay, Trusteeship PQ w/ Hasting Bass, some sort of question about Strong v Bird or DMC

Yep. I'm along those lines.
QT and Mareva
Trusteeship
Cy Pres
Recission
Imperfected gifts
Constructive Trusts and Dishonesty

As core areas.....

nina94 · 22-03-2018 6:53pm

Hey guys. Hope exams have gone well so far. I’m doing equity tomorrow and I’m really struggling with the study. What are the predictions for this exam?

angela1711 · 22-03-2018 8:15pm

Do we need to know property rights of cohabitants in the context of resulting trust ? Is it ever asked?

david_etc · 22-03-2018 8:40pm

angela1711 wrote: »

Do we need to know property rights of cohabitants in the context of resulting trust ? Is it ever asked?

My grid says it has never come up. And unincorporated societies came up in October so I think possibly Quistclose Trusts or Exhausting Beneficial Interest could be an option to write about in those choose 2 out of 3 questions.

angela1711 · 22-03-2018 8:48pm

david_etc wrote: »

My grid says it has never come up. And unincorporated societies came up in October so I think possibly Quistclose Trusts or Exhausting Beneficial Interest could be an option to write about in those choose 2 out of 3 questions.

Ok thanks a lot. I am not doing injunctions as I didn't have enough time to cover them. Should I be okay with:

-specific performance
-rescission: undue influence
- estoppel
-rectification
-express trust: rule in Strong v Bird, Donatio Mortis Causa, Completion of Trusts
-Resulting trust/presumption of advancement
-trustees
-tracing

Or should I throw in quistclose trust and beneficial interest too ? Or am I better of to do charitable trust? It is a big topic so I would rather skip it but don't know if it is a safe thing to do.

yournerd · 22-03-2018 10:15pm

Quia Timet Injunction( prohibitory interloc) or Mareva Injunction( or both)

Problem Question on Trustees
Essay question on doctrine of Cy pres

Rescission

Rectification and SP- Problem question
Rescission on grounds of Undue Influence

Constructive Trusts- knowing receipt/dishonest assistance- essay
Resulting Trusts- presumption of advancement

UC · 22-03-2018 11:29pm

Were other people severely stuck for time in property?
I felt like the succession problem Q in particular raised so many issues that it was hard to fit everything in. (s117 and the million relevant cases, s111, s56, proprietary estoppel...)

Family law problem q also took up a lot of time as it encompassed family law protection act and s72.1.j?

Q8 took up at least 45 mins by itself and the RTA 2004 question took up a solid 40.

Was left with much less time than I wanted to answer the adverse possession Q as well as I wanted to because I knew I'd need 45 mins + for Q8

byrne7 · 23-03-2018 2:12pm

What came up in equity?

Fergalr2092 · 23-03-2018 2:22pm

byrne7 wrote: »

What came up in equity?

Q1 Undue Influence and 3rd parties (PQ)
Q2 Estoppel - Unconscionability (Essay)
Q3 Donatio Mortis Causa (PQ)
Q4 Note on: Satisfaction; uni-mistake Rectification and Strong v Bird
Q5 Charitable Trusts (PQ)
Q6 Mareva - requisite intention (Essay)
Q7 Quistclose Trusts (PQ)
Q8 Trusteeship - Duty to Invest and Duty to Properly Exercise Discretion (Note)

Supermax1988 · 23-03-2018 2:30pm

Wasn't a bad paper at all. Though I think I made a mess of the Mareva Injunction essay ðŸ™ˆ

Lumi77 · 23-03-2018 2:39pm

Fergalr2092 wrote: »

Q1 Undue Influence and 3rd parties (PQ)
Q2 Estoppel - Unconscionability (Essay)
Q3 Donatio Mortis Causa
Q4 Note on: Satisfaction; uni-mistake Rectification and Strong v Bird
Q5 Charitable Trusts (PQ)
Q6 Mareva - requisite intention (Essay)
Q7 Quistclose Trusts (PQ)
Q8 Trusteeship - Duty to Invest and Duty to Properly Exercise Discretion (Essay)

Nice paper ....

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