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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    Legal23 wrote: »
    I'm going for the magic three for the 3rd time and I'm losing heart. I've signed up for 4 this time round with criminal being my additional subject. I've got condensed notes done but I find I'm rewriting all my notes again in the learning process. Tbh, I've mostly focused on my past exams so I've left criminal to the end. I'm starting to panic looking at the topics today and feel like I'm getting nowhere. I'm just wondering from your experience would I be better off not sitting criminal and just focus on getting my three, spending the next few days being fully prepared for my 3 exams or do I spend the next day and a half cramming to get criminal into my head... Is it possible to pass if I feel like nothing is going in at this point???

    I'd say chance it and do criminal, spend your time doing homocide, non-fatal, property offences - they all have to appear somewhere. Your leaving no room for error if you only do 3 and esp as you've done 3 before they should come back to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    Re. company, can anyone advise - is notification still a crystallising event as in JD Brian despite that it no longer gives priority above preferential creditors since the Companies (Accounting) Act? (I'm working off of an older manual ��)

    I get so confused with crystallisation and the preferential parts!! I thought notice from a debenture holder was still applicable? I could be wrong though


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Re. company, can anyone advise - is notification still a crystallising event as in JD Brian despite that it no longer gives priority above preferential creditors since the Companies (Accounting) Act? (I'm working off of an older manual ��)

    I think it is still a crystallising event. It's just that it won't have priority over preferential creditors anymore


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭kasey0123


    Crystallization by express notice is still a legitimate means of crystallization.. but the 2017 act brought in changes because of what happened in JD Brian, so they can still crystallize be notice but it will have no effect on priority in relation to pref creditors? I think..

    I have 5 ways of crystallization: receivership, commencement of winding up, express crystallization by service of notice, automatic crystallization and cessation of business


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭kasey0123


    Can anyone shed some light of the top 7 topics in Company.. only have a few more hours to cover stuff


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  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    kasey0123 wrote: »
    Crystallization by express notice is still a legitimate means of crystallization.. but the 2017 act brought in changes because of what happened in JD Brian, so they can still crystallize be notice but it will have no effect on priority in relation to pref creditors? I think..

    I have 5 ways of crystallization: receivership, commencement of winding up, express crystallization by service of notice, automatic crystallization and cessation of business

    What is the difference between express crystallisation by notice and automatic crystallisation?


  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭holliek


    Am I right in thinking in JD the bank were allowed to claim in priority of the Revenue (pref creditors). Because of this loophole, the 2017 act was introduced to prevent it from re-occurring?

    Also, if this is the case why don't they want the bank to be able to have priority over the pref creditors? Like why is it so bad?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Covering for Criminal:

    Classifications
    AR/MR
    Sexual Offences
    Homicide
    Non-Fatal Offences
    Offences against Property
    Defences
    Bail/Arrest/Detention
    Presumption of Innocence/Right to Silence/Courts

    Thoughts? Is it enough?


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭kasey0123


    holliek wrote: »
    Am I right in thinking in JD the bank were allowed to claim in priority of the Revenue (pref creditors). Because of this loophole, the 2017 act was introduced to prevent it from re-occurring?

    Also, if this is the case why don't they want the bank to be able to have priority over the pref creditors? Like why is it so bad?


    Yep! I have no idea why haha... think it’s just because preferential creditors like the revenue and employees wages and outstanding claims and stuff is viewed as more important than feeding the corporate machines


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭kasey0123


    What is the difference between express crystallisation by notice and automatic crystallisation?

    Had this Question myself.. no idea but Courtney and thuiller both refer to them separately for some reason.. don’t really get it!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 decco201


    If anyone has the tort paper from today would they mind taking pic and sending to me, I’ve lost mine and want to show my friend please


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭JCormac


    Covering for Criminal:

    Classifications
    AR/MR
    Sexual Offences
    Homicide
    Non-Fatal Offences
    Offences against Property
    Defences
    Bail/Arrest/Detention
    Presumption of Innocence/Right to Silence/Courts

    Thoughts? Is it enough?

    I'd definitely consider covering Complicity in Offences if you haven't already.

    Other than that you're solid :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭nimcdona


    Covering for Criminal:

    Classifications
    AR/MR
    Sexual Offences
    Homicide
    Non-Fatal Offences
    Offences against Property
    Defences
    Bail/Arrest/Detention
    Presumption of Innocence/Right to Silence/Courts

    Thoughts? Is it enough?

    concerned I don't know what AR/MR is ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    nimcdona wrote: »
    concerned I don't know what AR/MR is ...

    Actus Reus/Mens Rea :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭nimcdona


    Actus Reus/Mens Rea :P

    Hahaha my bad, can safely say I have them covered anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    Does anybody else ever worry that you've drank so much coffee and red bull during this period that you'll just have a heart attack


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭SwD


    Q3 I really felt it referred to Psychological Damage.
    Eoin Quill has a short section in 2nd edition of Torts in Ireland under Miscellaneous Torts.
    My book is old so maybe more cases since this edition.
    I looked at it under Intentional Torts.
    I don’t know if Nervous Shock would satisfy, proximity requirement would fail.. Ex relationship .. If Brothers failed in Alcock an ex girl friend would be way too remote.

    Cuddy v Mays - the plaintiffs brother was deemed to satisfy the 'close relationship' test, furthering the Irish more relaxed approach in contrast to Alcock as per Kelly.

    I took a dual perspective. I contended that her act was one which negligently inflicted psychiatric damage but there may also lie an action in trespass to the person for intentionally inflicting emotional distress as per Wilkinson. Looking forward to the examiners report.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 xBell123


    kasey0123 wrote: »
    Had this Question myself.. no idea but Courtney and thuiller both refer to them separately for some reason.. don’t really get it!

    I think express is where the debenture expressly says you can convert / notify to crystallise, but automatic is where crystallisation happens automatically upon a certain event without any action taken by the debenture holder. My manual says automatic crystallisation exists in Irish debentures but hasn’t yet been tested in the courts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    Does anybody else ever worry that you've drank so much coffee and red bull during this period that you'll just have a heart attack

    Trying to avoid it cannot sleep at all drank both last night and this morning. Tried to have 3 power naps after no sleep not happening. Affecting study so bad. My brain is mush from tiredness. Seriously reconsidering tomorrows exam.


  • Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    Does anyone know what came up on the last company exam slp / ultra??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    Does anyone know what came up on the last company exam slp / ultra??

    Neither came up last sitting!
    I don't have the paper but I took it down when someone posted after the exam last sitting:

    - duty of company to act in interests of company (?)
    - duties of receiver
    - ostensible authority; turquands case
    - liability of directors for reckless and fraudulent trading and failure to keep proper books
    - restriction orders
    - distributions
    - foss v harbottle
    - retention of title clauses; charges over book debts

    Hope that helps


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 clearsky99


    Can someone tell me what came up in March for constitutional? And if ye have any of the predictions! Finding it hard to narrow down


  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭lawless11


    Criminal - is there a defence of reasonable care for strict liability offences? Keane J commented in Shannon Regional Fisheries that is should be available, but so... is it or is it not? xD


  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    Covering for Criminal:

    Classifications
    AR/MR
    Sexual Offences
    Homicide
    Non-Fatal Offences
    Offences against Property
    Defences
    Bail/Arrest/Detention
    Presumption of Innocence/Right to Silence/Courts

    Thoughts? Is it enough?

    I am covering the same as you except for the courts. There are so o many Acts and sections to remember for criminal, feeling frustrated :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    SwD wrote: »
    Cuddy v Mays - the plaintiffs brother was deemed to satisfy the 'close relationship' test, furthering the Irish more relaxed approach in contrast to Alcock as per Kelly.

    I took a dual perspective. I contended that her act was one which negligently inflicted psychiatric damage but there may also lie an action in trespass to the person for intentionally inflicting emotional distress as per Wilkinson. Looking forward to the examiners report.

    This is exactly what I did


  • Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    @gunslinger
    Thanks a mill. I was going to leave ultra out mmm not sure. Need to chop either way. I have a feeling it is going to be a brutal paper ;/

    Also duty of company to act in interest of company?


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    Neither came up last sitting!
    I don't have the paper but I took it down when someone posted after the exam last sitting:

    - duty of company to act in interests of company (?)
    - duties of receiver
    - ostensible authority; turquands case
    - liability of directors for reckless and fraudulent trading and failure to keep proper books
    - restriction orders
    - distributions
    - foss v harbottle
    - retention of title clauses; charges over book debts

    Hope that helps

    I'm very much hoping tomorrows paper is nothing like this… Leaving out receivers, corporate authority, reckless/fraudulent trading, distributions… Also leaving out ultra vires and changes to the act, and my knowledge of charges is questionable


  • Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    Neither came up last sitting! I don't have the paper but I took it down when someone posted after the exam last sitting:

    - duty of company to act in interests of company (?) - duties of receiver - ostensible authority; turquands case - liability of directors for reckless and fraudulent trading and failure to keep proper books - restriction orders - distributions - foss v harbottle - retention of title clauses; charges over book debts

    Hope that helps


    Does he tend to have a pattern to not repeat or should we still study for example ostensible? I haven't really looked at grids


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Gunslinger92


    I'm very much hoping tomorrows paper is nothing like this… Leaving out receivers, corporate authority, reckless/fraudulent trading, distributions… Also leaving out ultra vires and changes to the act, and my knowledge of charges is questionable

    Me too, a couple of nasty ones on there. But Reckless and fraudulent trading is easy and very short!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭z6vm1dobfnca3x


    Did anyone find it difficult to get parking at the Red Cow today or are there generally lots of spaces?


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