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  • Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭FreeFallin94


    pottsss777 wrote: »
    For criminal, would it be mad to leave out the criminal courts and arrest/presump of innocence/silence/bail?

    I'm leaving this out anyway. Didn't have the time and I feel like I know the rest of my topics well enough (hopefully!).

    Anyone have any recommendations for cases I might look at for the case note question in EU? I'm not planning on answering it but I'm also not doing competition law so I may end up stuck having to write about 3 cases as a last resort.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭fe1hunzo


    pottsss777 wrote: »
    For criminal, would it be mad to leave out the criminal courts and arrest/presump of innocence/silence/bail?
    Honestly after going through all the papers from the last few years and having the examiner as a lecturer you can guarantee there will be something on the criminal procedure element.
    Courts is handy because its either the Court of Appeal, Special Criminal Courts or a question where you could mention both with a short part on Central Criminal, High, District as well.
    If you have access to the reports from criminal they are great answer guides. Throw in some nice commentary on things where you can.
    But if you've covered all the substantive offences and the defences you're fine. They tend to come up together for problems and then you might get an essay on one particular offence/defence.
    Bail and silence can come up with substantive offences too. So don't learn anything in isolation, i.e. learn offences against the state, with right to silence, inferences.
    Learn sexual offences with their defences, same for homicide offences.


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Lumi77


    I can understand the confusion in relation to Q2. Certainly not straight-forward. But it's not just capital maintenance rules because you are asked to advise someone who just bought all of the company's shares whether the transactions can be avoided.

    The question is about directors' duties and more specifically fiduciary duties to the company. The company, now under the control of another, can seek to have the former directors account and or indemnify the company in relation to losses arising from the breach(es). I admit this is not straight-forward.

    Obviously, it would be nice if you were given some information about the solvency of the company after the asset drain by the former directors but I think I would answer on both the bases being (a) the company is still solvent and (b) the company is now insolvent.

    It is much easier to know where you're going in the event that the company is insolvent now.

    It is further complicated by the lack of information on what, if any, relationship Janet had with Jason. The extent of Janet's knowledge of what Jason was at is important under the terms of the sections dealing with directors' duties etc.

    I answered on fudiciary duties and touched on remedies s232 did make a point on the relationship of the two and went a tiny bit into the statutory duties
    I hope that was enough for it
    Thank you for clarifying that


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭bluntspoon


    I can understand the confusion in relation to Q2. Certainly not straight-forward. But it's not just capital maintenance rules because you are asked to advise someone who just bought all of the company's shares whether the transactions can be avoided.

    The question is about directors' duties and more specifically fiduciary duties to the company. The company, now under the control of another, can seek to have the former directors account and or indemnify the company in relation to losses arising from the breach(es). I admit this is not straight-forward.

    Obviously, it would be nice if you were given some information about the solvency of the company after the asset drain by the former directors but I think I would answer on both the bases being (a) the company is still solvent and (b) the company is now insolvent.

    It is much easier to know where you're going in the event that the company is insolvent now.

    It is further complicated by the lack of information on what, if any, relationship Janet had with Jason. The extent of Janet's knowledge of what Jason was at is important under the terms of the sections dealing with directors' duties etc.

    But the question asks about having the transactions "set aside". It seems like that's qualitatively different to having the director account to the company for the transactions?

    Also, what about Janet? She wasn't a director so she can't be asked to account - the bit with her is pure capital maintenance isn't it? Something about members being forced to return interim dividends if they know they shouldn't have been paid. (I clearly did not study capital maintenance or even attempt this question).

    I'd love to know how many people gave this one a go today!

    Edit: And the transfer of the site to Jason - is that not S238? Voidable at the insistence of the company? Unless the company approved it I suppose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 HenryHodgson


    Hi all,

    Where would be the handiest place to pick up the Succession and Sale of Goods Acts in Dublin?

    Thanks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Hi all,

    Where would be the handiest place to pick up the Succession and Sale of Goods Acts in Dublin?

    Thanks!

    RING opw 51/52 Stephens Green. They closed shop few years ago so you have to buy it online or over phone. They are a joke up there


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,726 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    bluntspoon wrote: »
    But the question asks about having the transactions "set aside". It seems like that's qualitatively different to having the director account to the company for the transactions?

    Also, what about Janet? She wasn't a director so she can't be asked to account - the bit with her is pure capital maintenance isn't it? Something about members being forced to return interim dividends if they know they shouldn't have been paid. (I clearly did not study capital maintenance or even attempt this question).

    I'd love to know how many people gave this one a go today!

    Edit: And the transfer of the site to Jason - is that not S238? Voidable at the insistence of the company? Unless the company approved it I suppose.

    I think for everyone's benefit, it would be best to continue further discussion of these issues in the relevant thread in the Law Students forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭annmc882


    Hi all,

    Where would be the handiest place to pick up the Succession and Sale of Goods Acts in Dublin?

    Thanks!

    RING opw 51/52 Stephens Green. They closed shop few years ago so you have to buy it online or over phone. MOD Be civil, pls

    publications@opw.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    What are people covering for Constitutional? Trying to prioritise what's left of my capacity to memorize.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Robbie25808


    What are people covering for Constitutional? Trying to prioritise what's left of my capacity to memorize.

    I have nearly given up at this stage. Contemplating not even going into it and just focusing on EU for Friday?

    What do you think?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭amkeane81


    What are people covering for Constitutional? Trying to prioritise what's left of my capacity to memorize.

    Art 38.1 - delay, evidence, fair trial, right to lawyer
    Family
    Childrens rights
    Property rights
    Equality
    Religion
    A little on assembly/association
    NDD
    The president
    Interpretation
    Expression/privacy
    A small bit of referndum law
    Socio economic stuff
    Various cases

    No idea if it's enough. I'm freaked! This is my 3rd time sitting this exam.


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Lumi77


    I wonder if I could get some help and any of you can tell me what happened in the Pelati v Slovenia please
    Thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 SB2020


    Hi, can anyone tell me if Blackstone's can be tabbed for Friday's EU exam? Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,159 ✭✭✭yournerd


    SB2020 wrote: »
    Hi, can anyone tell me if Blackstone's can be tabbed for Friday's EU exam? Thanks!

    Yeah!


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Chuckler


    Lumi77 wrote: »
    I answered on fudiciary duties and touched on remedies s232 did make a point on the relationship of the two and went a tiny bit into the statutory duties
    I hope that was enough for it
    Thank you for clarifying that


    I agree as an addendum to my last post. I answered primarily on Cap maintenance but threw in a bit about Directors duty to Company also. Touched on s220 connected persons and agree that the second part is primarily s238 non cash assets as per Duckwari and Kerr v Conduit Enterprises. Very nuanced question like all of them really. Horrible exam - left feeling angry, happy, relieved but mainly devesatated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    I have nearly given up at this stage. Contemplating not even going into it and just focusing on EU for Friday?

    What do you think?

    At this stage of the game you may as well waffle the hell out of it if you can. Get a decent sleep and don't sit up studying late on constitutional , if you're well rested you can go absolute burnout mode tomorrow from lunchtime


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭MeganC1554


    I’m also repeating Constitutional! I’m at a loss - Do you basically just give a general overview of the law in relation to the question asked and back up with a few cases or do you dissect the questions with various judgments! Can anybody who has passed this enlighten me?

    I’m covering: Constitutional Interpretation
    President
    Article 34
    Non delegation
    Locus standing
    Presumption of constitutionality
    Findings of unconstitutionality
    Art 38
    Personal rights
    Equality
    Property rights
    Abortion
    Freedom of speech
    Family

    All to be crammed before morning :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Robbie25808


    At this stage of the game you may as well waffle the hell out of it if you can. Get a decent sleep and don't sit up studying late on constitutional , if you're well rested you can go absolute burnout mode tomorrow from lunchtime

    The problem is i do not have the information to waffle. I think I am going to pack it in and get a good sleep and cram for EU.

    What happens if you do not show for the exam?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    The problem is i do not have the information to waffle. I think I am going to pack it in and get a good sleep and cram for EU.

    What happens if you do not show for the exam?

    No real consequence you just get Absent on your result slip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Robbie25808


    No real consequence you just get Absent on your result slip.

    Are the results online or do they get sent to your home?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Are the results online or do they get sent to your home?

    Online and then posted out subsequently to whatever addressed you registered with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Robbie25808


    EU law:

    Under A114, what do they mean by the establishment of an internal market?


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Lumi77


    MeganC1554 wrote: »
    I’m also repeating Constitutional! I’m at a loss - Do you basically just give a general overview of the law in relation to the question asked and back up with a few cases or do you dissect the questions with various judgments! Can anybody who has passed this enlighten me?

    I’m covering: Constitutional Interpretation
    President
    Article 34
    Non delegation
    Locus standing
    Presumption of constitutionality
    Findings of unconstitutionality
    Art 38
    Personal rights
    Equality
    Property rights
    Abortion
    Freedom of speech
    Family

    All to be crammed before morning :(

    I passed in first sitting
    I just gave the law and backed up and made sure I advised if a problem question
    I thought is an easy paper just overwhelming
    Case notes are useful and you 'll know them anyway from the topics covered
    Abortion right to life does not seem to come up
    Expression property unemarated rights and separation of power will come up most likely
    You have more than enough there
    Good luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭MeganC1554


    Cheers Lumi77, That’s helped a lot! I got 45 in my last exam so just nervous than ever now to get it over the 49 mark!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 icsheep


    MeganC1554 wrote: »
    Cheers Lumi77, That’s helped a lot! I got 45 in my last exam so just nervous than ever now to get it over the 49 mark!

    If you don't mind me asking, what would you say your mistakes were in the previous one? Approach/content/didn't cover enough, etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭MeganC1554


    icsheep wrote: »
    MeganC1554 wrote: »
    Cheers Lumi77, That’s helped a lot! I got 45 in my last exam so just nervous than ever now to get it over the 49 mark!

    If you don't mind me asking, what would you say your mistakes were in the previous one? Approach/content/didn't cover enough, etc?

    No I don’t mind discussing at all, I answered 5 questions but I think I may have failed to identify a few areas in problem questions. I focused merely on one or two areas.

    My aim this time is to interact more areas of law. Such as proportionality, Constitutional Interpretation and discuss more to the problem question, I think i veered off track and generally spoke about all I knew. Hope this helps


  • Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭Lumi77


    MeganC1554 wrote: »
    Cheers Lumi77, That’s helped a lot! I got 45 in my last exam so just nervous than ever now to get it over the 49 mark!

    No problem just keep focused and to the point that's all
    AG and president plus case notes should give u two good questions
    Religion came up in March which was unusual so shouldn't happen again
    You 'll be fine
    Good luck


  • Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭saraocallaghan


    Lumi77 wrote: »
    MeganC1554 wrote: »
    Cheers Lumi77, That’s helped a lot! I got 45 in my last exam so just nervous than ever now to get it over the 49 mark!

    No problem just keep focused and to the point that's all
    AG and president plus case notes should give u two good questions
    Religion came up in March which was unusual so shouldn't happen again
    You 'll be fine
    Good luck

    Thanks Lumi - really appreciate your words


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    God i really despise all the entire alphabet v DPP cases :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭amkeane81


    Lumi77 wrote: »
    No problem just keep focused and to the point that's all
    AG and president plus case notes should give u two good questions
    Religion came up in March which was unusual so shouldn't happen again
    You 'll be fine
    Good luck

    I hope you're right! I got 46% twice and my head is melted now.


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