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TheDriver

cshk99 wrote: »

Just got onto their live chat and they say it's meant to be 10MB/s

How do I get the feeling that it should be the other way around, limiting to 80Mbps seems pointless

Quackster

TheDriver wrote: »

How do I get the feeling that it should be the other way around, limiting to 80Mbps seems pointless

Agreed. I think the error is in the T&Cs.

Edit: Actually, the error seems to be in the new PAYG pricing sheet posted on the Vodafone website where it's written as 10MBPS - it seems someone just capitalised Mbps, not realising that they had kinda changed its meaning.

BArra

also on the 'old' vodafone x weekend and got the text to say from 6th june its changing to the 10Mbps with the same unlimited texts and 100 network minutes but now with unlimited minutes rather than data at the weekend

will probably jump ship - dont fancy gomo - what other options is there out there?

Bob24

TheDriver wrote: »

How do I get the feeling that it should be the other way around, limiting to 80Mbps seems pointless

Exactly, sustainable 80Mbps isn't achievable in many areas anyway; and when it is achievable it is a sign that the network is seeing very little use in that area hence no point applying a limit to preserve network capacity.

I have almost no doubt it is 10Mbps.

corks finest

BArra wrote: »

also on the 'old' vodafone x weekend and got the text to say from 6th june its changing to the 10Mbps with the same unlimited texts and 100 network minutes but now with unlimited minutes rather than data at the weekend

will probably jump ship - dont fancy gomo - what other options is there out there?

Same predicament

ThunbergsAreGo

Bob24 wrote: »

Exactly, sustainable 80Mbps isn't achievable in many areas anyway; and when it is achievable it is a sign that the network is seeing very little use in that area hence no point applying a limit to preserve network capacity.

I have almost no doubt it is 10Mbps.

Excuse my ignorance, how slow is 10Mbps?

Enough to stream Netflix/Football when used on a phone only?

Mortelaro

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, how slow is 10Mbps?

Enough to stream Netflix/Football when used on a phone only?

Problem is,it will be closer to 3 or 4 when they start hobbling it

Bob24

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance, how slow is 10Mbps?

Enough to stream Netflix/Football when used on a phone only?

Yes no issue with those; to be honest it is more than fine for most mobiles uses.

It also is more than mobile network can offer in dense areas during peak times.

It is the most extreme scenario, but for exemple my experience of Vodafone in Dublin city centre at 5PM on a week day* is that you'd be happy to get 5-6Mpbs anyway as the network is overloaded (but video streaming still works pretty much flawlessly). Eir is slower than Vodafone and Three is abysmal in the same scenario (video streaming is a very bad experience and borderline unusable as it reverts and low-res and yet keeps cutting-off).


* before Covid-19 of course, and the reference point I have used for testing once in a while is D'Olier Street.

Bob24

Mortelaro wrote: »

Problem is,it will be closer to 3 or 4 when they start hobbling it

Yep. I wouldn't be too concerned about a 10Mpbs cap TBH, what I am more concerned about is what effect unlimited plans will have in ares whereby the network is already struggling/failing to deliver 10Mpbs anyway.

Tazzimus

Live chat are saying it's 10Mbps.
I'm currently getting 80Mbps ish so that's a bit of a drop off, although in theory it should still be enough to stream Spotify, Netflix etc.
Will see how that holds up, around me is a ghost town in work so not much contention to worry about while everyone is at home.
As long as I can listen to Spotify and drown out people on the Luas I'll be happy enough.

corks finest

Tazzimus wrote: »

Live chat are saying it's 10Mbps.
I'm currently getting 80Mbps ish so that's a bit of a drop off, although in theory it should still be enough to stream Spotify, Netflix etc.
Will see how that holds up, around me is a ghost town in work so not much contention to worry about while everyone is at home.
As long as I can listen to Spotify and drown out people on the Luas I'll be happy enough.

It'll be obviously pretty poor,as 10 MB is maximum, I've never achieved that with any provider.( The maximum)

Tazzimus

corks finest wrote: »

It'll be obviously pretty poor,as 10 MB is maximum, I've never achieved that with any provider.( The maximum)

80Mbps is around 10MB/s ish isn't it? Which is what I'm getting at the moment. I've another month of that anyway before they change me over.

Fella on live chat was actually sound enough, not your usual Indian robot.
Seemingly it's to stop people using it as their primary connection for home, must have had a good few people using it as their main hotspot or something.
Netflix recommend a 5Mbps connection for HD content and Spotify is .36Mbps. Next month will tell, I suppose.

bk

Bob24 wrote: »

Exactly, sustainable 80Mbps isn't achievable in many areas anyway; and when it is achievable it is a sign that the network is seeing very little use in that area hence no point applying a limit to preserve network capacity.

I have almost no doubt it is 10Mbps.

But nowhere does it say you will get consistent 10Mb/s!

This is a cap on the maximum speed you can get. That is quiet different.

Given the nature of mobile tech, there is no way they can guarantee any speed consistently. You might just get 1Mb/s or even worse, depending on various factors.

I don't get this from Vodafone at all, I don't know why anyone would want to go with Vodafone, pay almost twice as much and get hobbled like this!

theintern

Disappointing change.

I'd much prefer something like "10Mbps unlimited after 30GB of full speed". That would achieve the same goal. Even lower that and give 15 or 20 gigs at full speed.

A friend and I did a speedtest on GoMo and Vodafone and he was getting better speeds than me (55 vs 45 down). The only thing that's keeping me on Vodafone is it's generally more reliable in the sticks I find.

Bob24

bk wrote: »

But nowhere does it say you will get consistent 10Mb/s!

This is a cap on the maximum speed you can get. That is quiet different.

Given the nature of mobile tech, there is no way they can guarantee any speed consistently. You might just get 1Mb/s or even worse, depending on various factors.

I don't get this from Vodafone at all, I don't know why anyone would want to go with Vodafone, pay almost twice as much and get hobbled like this!

For sure, no network would make such commitment.

But having that cap on their cheaper and unlimited offers does protect overall network performance.

In practice, I think this offer still is good for someone who doesn't care about peak performance and is more concerned about reliability in all circumpstances (even with this cap, a Vodafone subscription will most likely deliver better quality of service in high network strain situations such as the exemple if Dublin city centre at rush hours I was giving in my previous posts).

dowtchaboy

I just renewed my Vodafone X today as it happens.
So the acknowledgment text i got was the usual 30G, unlimited weekends etc. No mention of 10mbps. Then I got an alert that from June 6th my Offer will change to unlimited at 10mbps etc. I will get one more renewal at the old deal I guess on June 3rd.

CONTRACT CHANGE: From 6th June 2020, your Vodafone X Weekend top up offer will change to “Vodafone X”. Vodafone X provides you with unlimited data, at a max speed of 10Mbps, unlimited texts and 100 any network minutes with unlimited weekend calls for 28 days, every time you top up by €20 or more in one go. Unlimited weekend calls from 3pm Fridays until 11.59pm Sundays. This change will take effect from your next top up by €20 or more in one go after 6th June. You may withdraw from your prepay contract without penalty at any time. For more information visit https://n.vodafone.ie/aboutus/customer-notifications.html. For Vodafone X terms see https://n.vodafone.ie/terms/pay-as-you-go.html

Kenny Logins

bk wrote: »

But nowhere does it say you will get consistent 10Mb/s!

This is a cap on the maximum speed you can get. That is quiet different.

Given the nature of mobile tech, there is no way they can guarantee any speed consistently. You might just get 1Mb/s or even worse, depending on various factors.

I don't get this from Vodafone at all, I don't know why anyone would want to go with Vodafone, pay almost twice as much and get hobbled like this!

The limit is being imposed to ensure they can deliver a reliable service. This is a positive move IMHO and fine with me - my connection here right now where I am is generally under 3Mbps, but I never notice because I can watch YouTube and carry on doing other things without interruption.

Look at the mess Three is in with All you can eat data - for me that was "Free soup - Here's your fork". :pac:

donnyvegas

It might be worth switching to their non-student offers - which have increased their GB allowance.

CoBo55

Kenny Logins wrote: »

The limit is being imposed to ensure they can deliver a reliable service. This is a positive move IMHO and fine with me - my connection here right now where I am is generally under 3Mbps, but I never notice because I can watch YouTube and carry on doing other things without interruption.

Look at the mess Three is in with All you can eat data - for me that was "Free soup - Here's your fork". :pac:

Ha ha brilliant.

pm.

The attached is what I currently get at home, as long as I can still stream it won't bother me too much

corks finest

Tazzimus wrote: »

80Mbps is around 10MB/s ish isn't it? Which is what I'm getting at the moment. I've another month of that anyway before they change me over.

Fella on live chat was actually sound enough, not your usual Indian robot.
Seemingly it's to stop people using it as their primary connection for home, must have had a good few people using it as their main hotspot or something.
Netflix recommend a 5Mbps connection for HD content and Spotify is .36Mbps. Next month will tell, I suppose.

Always a few feck it up

corks finest

pm. wrote: »

The attached is what I currently get at home, as long as I can still stream it won't bother me too much

Get that from data use?

okidoki987

BArra wrote: »

also on the 'old' vodafone x weekend and got the text to say from 6th june its changing to the 10Mbps with the same unlimited texts and 100 network minutes but now with unlimited minutes rather than data at the weekend

will probably jump ship - dont fancy gomo - what other options is there out there?

Same predicament

30 day contracts:

48 €9.99 a month 20GB Data, 300 call mins and unlimited texts
Three €15 a month for 6 months on Bill pay All Data (60GB), calls and texts.
Virgin €15 a month for 12 months All Data (unlimited), calls and texts
Eir €15 a month All Data (80GB), calls and texts for 6 months & Eir sport .
(if you have Eir Broadband, Mobile is €9.99 a month for 12 months).
Tesco €20 a month All Data (60GB), calls and texts & 300 international minutes

Cjs21

Eir text me yesterday. Unlimited Calls or Texts with no limits data for €10 if I go back with no expiry on the offer. Good timing

corks finest

okidoki987 wrote: »

30 day contracts:

48 €9.99 a month 20GB Data, 300 call mins and unlimited texts
Three €15 a month for 6 months on Bill pay All Data (60GB), calls and texts.
Virgin €15 a month for 12 months All Data (unlimited), calls and texts
Eir €15 a month All Data (80GB), calls and texts for 6 months & Eir sport .
(if you have Eir Broadband, Mobile is €9.99 a month for 12 months).
Tesco €20 a month All Data (60GB), calls and texts & 300 international minutes

Virgin do PAYG?

Darksoul

Cjs21 wrote: »

Eir text me yesterday. Unlimited Calls or Texts with no limits data for €10 if I go back with no expiry on the offer. Good timing

I got the same as you,i might jump back to them if a good phone was on offer again,that's the only reason I joined Vodafone in first place.

lomb

pm. wrote: »

The attached is what I currently get at home, as long as I can still stream it won't bother me too much

Jesus that's fast. Are you next to the mast?
Yeh 10mbps up and down would be considered high speed broadband. It wouldn't be any good for a family or for streaming 4k but that's cool.
Why bother with fixed landline or broadband when you can have it all for 20-30 per month. I suppose they have spent billion and billions of euro on gig fibre broadband but you'd have to wonder. Most people are running a house not a google data centre!
5g is a load of nonsense. Max range is less than a mile so they are going to need to spend a fortune on infrastructure with no real damand ,need or reason.

pm.

corks finest wrote: »

Get that from data use?

Yeah just using vf network, I'm not sure where the mast is I live about 1km from Mullingar Town center

okidoki987

corks finest wrote: »

Virgin do PAYG?

No it's just Sim only 30 day contract.
https://www.virginmedia.ie/mobile/sim-only/

I was with them for 6 months with no problems apart from they can't get the banks sms verification texts so have to move.
They have now made the data totally unlimited with no cap.

TetraSonic55

okidoki987 wrote: »

Sure do.
https://www.virginmedia.ie/mobile/sim-only/

I was with them for 6 months with no problems apart from they can't get the banks sms verification texts so have to move.
They have now made the data totally unlimited with no cap.

That's not PAYG. That's a sim only 30 day contract plan

DopeTech

Darksoul wrote: »

I got the same as you,i might jump back to them if a good phone was on offer again,that's the only reason I joined Vodafone in first place.

Why not just buy SIM-free then you aren't locked into any long contracts?

lomb

pm. wrote: »

Yeah just using vf network, I'm not sure where the mast is I live about 1km from Mullingar Town center

You must be close . You can download a gig in 90 seconds or less.

corks finest

okidoki987 wrote: »

Sure do.
https://www.virginmedia.ie/mobile/sim-only/

I was with them for 6 months with no problems apart from they can't get the banks sms verification texts so have to move.
They have now made the data totally unlimited with no cap.

Thank you,do rate them? Are average speeds ok?
VF is good ATM

corks finest

lomb wrote: »

You must be close . You can download a gig in 90 seconds or less.

My VF speed this morning is 64 mb download - Carrigaline but with this new crap coming in that's going to be down to below 10 no option but to leave

corks finest

pm. wrote: »

Yeah just using vf network, I'm not sure where the mast is I live about 1km from Mullingar Town center

Thought mine was good that's vv good ( mine usually up to 60 sometimes past mostly below)

okidoki987

TetraSonic55 wrote: »

That's not PAYG. That's a sim only 30 day contract plan

Very true.
I'll change the other post.

okidoki987

corks finest wrote: »

Thank you,do rate them? Are average speeds ok?
VF is good ATM

I corrected the other post, they don't do PAYG , it's a €15 30 day rolling contract.

Apart from the SMS text problem.
Just checked D/L 49.1Mbps, U/L 8.6Mbps, not sure if that's good or bad but at €15 a month with the now totally unlimited Data, as well as calls and texts suits me.

pm.

lomb wrote: »

You must be close . You can download a gig in 90 seconds or less.

Possibly but my signal strength is only 2 bars, not sure if thay means anything but judging by the speeds probably not?

massy086

Out of curiosity why are vf capping the speeds now.im on a plan called data user got it on boards.15gb data unlimited calls and texts 20€.I haven't got any text to say they are doing this to me but if they do I'll jump ship straight away.

alan4cult

Speed capping will be here to stay, it's going to become the new way operators can split the market while still calling the plans unlimited.

Truly unrestricted bandwith and limit packages will be more expensive.

corks finest

okidoki987 wrote: »

I corrected the other post, they don't do PAYG , it's a €15 30 day rolling contract.

Apart from the SMS text problem.
Just checked D/L 49.1Mbps, U/L 8.6Mbps, not sure if that's good or bad but at €15 a month with the now totally unlimited Data, as well as calls and texts suits me.

That's good speeds,ref rolling contract can u opt out when u want, it's a bit confusing on the site ,so many options,thank you

TheDriver

massy086 wrote: »

Out of curiosity why are vf capping the speeds now.im on a plan called data user got it on boards.15gb data unlimited calls and texts 20€.I haven't got any text to say they are doing this to me but if they do I'll jump ship straight away.

There is an agreement in place due to covid19
that nearly all providers provide a reasonable effort at an unlimited plan. I take it that this is VFs method

corks finest

TheDriver wrote: »

There is an agreement in place due to covid19
that nearly all providers provide a reasonable effort at an unlimited plan. I take it that this is VFs method

Don't think covid has anything to do with it, otherwise in the email sent it obviously would have mentioned the temporary state of this,as they will undoubtedly lose customers,2 alone in our house

Ah-Watch

TheDriver wrote: »

There is an agreement in place due to covid19
that nearly all providers provide a reasonable effort at an unlimited plan. I take it that this is VFs method

I reckon it just pushed them to release their unlimited plans quicker. If you look at Vodafone UK they have different tiers, some maximum speeds and others with a max of 10Mbps too. Vodafone AU have it structured as XGB at fastest speed available then 1.5Mbps and same with Telstra. All of the postpaid networks in the US have different tiers too- the cheaper the plan the lower the priority of your connection - if you want the fastest available you pay a bit more. These types of plans are the new norm around the world. EE in the UK have several different plans at a max of 60Mbps and others with fastest speeds available. Given that GoMo offer unlimited calls texts and data for €12.99, Eir for €14.99 for 6 months both at unlimited speeds Vodafone should try compete a bit more like maybe including unlimited mins for the €20 but the speed limit and the 100 mins its not very competitive. GoMo did have a line somewhere that at times of congestion speeds would be limited to something like 10 too but that was only if the network was heavy- I don't know if that's still there.

I'm on Red Max Sim Only and consider myself a heavy data user and going to stick on that as long as I can as you can use your full data allowance when roaming in the US/Canada etc where as the new plans limit it to 500MB a day.

corks finest

Ah-Watch wrote: »

I reckon it just pushed them to release their unlimited plans quicker. If you look at Vodafone UK they have different tiers, some maximum speeds and others with a max of 10Mbps too. Vodafone AU have it structured as XGB at fastest speed available then 1.5Mbps and same with Telstra. All of the postpaid networks in the US have different tiers too- the cheaper the plan the lower the priority of your connection - if you want the fastest available you pay a bit more. These types of plans are the new norm around the world. EE in the UK have several different plans at a max of 60Mbps and others with fastest speeds available. Given that GoMo offer unlimited calls texts and data for €12.99, Eir for €14.99 for 6 months both at unlimited speeds Vodafone should try compete a bit more like maybe including unlimited mins for the €20 but the speed limit and the 100 mins its not very competitive. GoMo did have a line somewhere that at times of congestion speeds would be limited to something like 10 too but that was only if the network was heavy- I don't know if that's still there.

I'm on Red Max Sim Only and consider myself a heavy data user and going to stick on that as long as I can as you can use your full data allowance when roaming in the US/Canada etc where as the new plans limit it to 500MB a day.

As eir own go mo AFAIK I couldn't go with them

Ah-Watch

corks finest wrote: »

As eir own go no AFAIK I couldn't go with them

My own phone is Vodafone, work phone is 3 and tried GoMo when it launched out of curiosity. Vodafone was a solid 80Mbps, 3 was generally between 15-20Mbps and GoMo kept falling between 3G and 4G with 4G maxing out at 30Mbps in Dublin 2 for me. Vodafone works better for some people, 3 works better for others- you just have to choose what fits your needs best really.

Normajeanjones

okidoki987 wrote: »

No it's just Sim only 30 day contract.


I was with them for 6 months with no problems apart from they can't get the banks sms verification texts so have to move.
They have now made the data totally unlimited with no cap.

I want to switch to virgin mobile 30 day contract, but I didn’t know there would be an issue with receiving bank sms verification texts.

Does anyone know why this is?

I’m with 3 at the moment, virgin seem to use 3 too?

corks finest

Ah-Watch wrote: »

My own phone is Vodafone, work phone is 3 and tried GoMo when it launched out of curiosity. Vodafone was a solid 80Mbps, 3 was generally between 15-20Mbps and GoMo kept falling between 3G and 4G with 4G maxing out at 30Mbps in Dublin 2 for me. Vodafone works better for some people, 3 works better for others- you just have to choose what fits your needs best really.

VF is tops but with the changes it'll be just another Tesco for PAYG

okidoki987

Normajeanjones wrote: »

I want to switch to virgin mobile 30 day contract, but I didn’t know there would be an issue with receiving bank sms verification texts.
Does anyone know why this is?
I’m with 3 at the moment, virgin seem to use 3 too?

Seemingly it's been since they started mobile service, not everybody has the
SMS text problem but enough people do for it to be a major problem for them.
Last time I checked with Virgin customer support, there was no update to when it would be sorted, they know about it but nothing has been done to fix it.
I can't get Bank, credit card or Paypal SMS along with a few others on Virgin,
could get them on Vodafone, going to try 48 now.

corks finest

okidoki987 wrote: »

Seemingly it's been since they started mobile service, not everybody has the
SMS text problem but enough people do for it to be a major problem for them.
Last time I checked with Virgin customer support, there was no update to when it would be sorted, they know about it but nothing has been done to fix it.
I can't get Bank, credit card or Paypal SMS along with a few others on Virgin,
could get them on Vodafone, going to try 48 now.

Here's my speed test this morning,and now it's being replaced with crap