Dogs dirt in office

silent_spark

Absolutely do not post anything derogatory on social media or anywhere else unless you want this following you for your career. It comes across unbelievably petty and unprofessional, no matter how true it is.

Be positive to other people in the industry about your experience there, talk about what you learned and how you are using your time there to help move into this new industry. Pretend it was always your plan to stay there for a short time, and do everything you can to get a new full-time job as soon as possible.

If your part-time job isn't related to the industry in any way, make sure to do something else (online training, volunteering) that shows you are serious about the change, and that you have a plan on how you intend to achieve it.

In a few years you can probably delete the internship from your CV if you'd rather not be associated with the company anymore (if they're that notorious). Good luck, it'll be fine.

Sure in my office we have a bunch of monkeys who love nothing more than flinging their s#it around..............oh wait no my bad that just my coworkers !!!!!!

Fries-With-That

I may be the only one here to see that what the OP is saying is not making any sense

You said you left a well paid job, to take up this internship, you cannot avail of an internship unless you have been in receipt of any one of various types of social welfare payment for more than 3 months or 78 days or more in the previous 6 months, AFAIK you cannot leave a job to take up a training place as an intern.

You started this thread on the 09/03, things moved very quickly, from them telling you were sure to get a job, to them telling you you were not worth their starting salary of €25k, to the dog mess and the other worker treating you unfairly, to them effectively sacking you.

There appears to be more to this story than meets the eye.

https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/JobBridge-Interns.aspx#q3

Heat_Wave

Fries-With-That wrote: »

I may be the only one here to see that what the OP is saying is not making any sense

You said you left a well paid job, to take up this internship, you cannot avail of an internship unless you have been in receipt of any one of various types of social welfare payment for more than 3 months or 78 days or more in the previous 6 months, AFAIK you cannot leave a job to take up a training place as an intern.

You started this thread on the 09/03, things moved very quickly, from them telling you were sure to get a job, to them telling you you were not worth their starting salary of €25k, to the dog mess and the other worker treating you unfairly, to them effectively sacking you.

There appears to be more to this story than meets the eye.

https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/JobBridge-Interns.aspx#q3

This has nothing to do with social welfare. I don't know if you are thinking of something else, like an apprenticeship scheme through Fás or something. This is completely different.

And things did progress very fast in there.

Mrs OBumble

Fries-With-That wrote: »

, you cannot avail of an internship unless you have been in receipt of any one of various types of social welfare payment for more than 3 months or 78 days or more in the previous 6 months, AFAIK you cannot leave a job to take up a training place as an intern.

Yes you can.

All you cannot do is get the dole at the same time.

The OP was working unpaid.

silent_spark

Fries-With-That wrote: »

I may be the only one here to see that what the OP is saying is not making any sense

You said you left a well paid job, to take up this internship, you cannot avail of an internship unless you have been in receipt of any one of various types of social welfare payment for more than 3 months or 78 days or more in the previous 6 months, AFAIK you cannot leave a job to take up a training place as an intern.

You started this thread on the 09/03, things moved very quickly, from them telling you were sure to get a job, to them telling you you were not worth their starting salary of €25k, to the dog mess and the other worker treating you unfairly, to them effectively sacking you.

There appears to be more to this story than meets the eye.

https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/JobBridge-Interns.aspx#q3

I think you're thinking of JobBridge, which is a social welfare scheme. People do internships all the time that have nothing to do with social welfare.

Fries-With-That

Heat_Wave wrote: »

This has nothing to do with social welfare.
And things did progress very fast in there.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Yes you can.
All you cannot do is get the dole at the same time.
The OP was working unpaid.

silent_spark wrote: »

I think you're thinking of JobBridge, which is a social welfare scheme. People do internships all the time that have nothing to do with social welfare.

Stands corrected on the internship issue. Thanks.
I still can't understand the logic of giving up paid employment to take up a non paid role with no guarantee of a job at the end of it.

OldMrBrennan83

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Heat_Wave

Patww79 wrote: »

I'd say the company are very good at selling a fairytale dream role at the end of it. Probably get an extra head free all year round from doing similar, just recycle when it comes to the 'permanent' part.

I'll be very honest, I was promised free meals in upmarket restaurants, overnight stays in 5* hotels, opportunities to travel, opportunities to attend events etc.

We attended two events, and not one other promise occurred.

I was told I was being made permanent on 25k. I was then let go the following week and was told 'you're not worth 20k'.

I was told I'd be brought out for a meal with the team for my birthday. This did not happen.

I was told I'd be reimbursed for certain expenses. This did not happen.

I was told I'd be given a voucher. This did not happen.

They did not adhere to one single thing they promised me, and now I am waiting to start a part time job until I find the right full time job for me. The whole thing is disgusting and I would love if there was 'anything' I could do, anything at all. People should not be exploited like this.

Donal55

Heat_Wave wrote: »

I'll be very honest, I was promised free meals in upmarket restaurants, overnight stays in 5* hotels, opportunities to travel, opportunities to attend events etc.

We attended two events, and not one other promise occurred.

I was told I was being made permanent on 25k. I was then let go the following week and was told 'you're not worth 20k'.

I was told I'd be brought out for a meal with the team for my birthday. This did not happen.

I was told I'd be reimbursed for certain expenses. This did not happen.

I was told I'd be given a voucher. This did not happen.

They did not adhere to one single thing they promised me, and now I am waiting to start a part time job until I find the right full time job for me. The whole thing is disgusting and I would love if there was 'anything' I could do, anything at all. People should not be exploited like this.

But didn't you give up a job to go to these?
The dole office didn't force you down this route.

Heat_Wave

Donal55 wrote: »

But didn't you give up a job to go to these?
The dole office didn't force you down this route.

I think you are confused. I was in a completely different industry beforehand. I left, and I took a risk, in order to return to the industry where my passion lies.

I have never received social welfare, so am not sure what your above comment means.

Red Kev

If you want a job in that sector, if the company has as bad a reputation as you say and if you're as good at your job as you say...then I'de send a CV and cover letter to each one of their customers offering your services to them.

Apart from that, do not post anything on social media as you can be sued, as well as dirtying your bib for future employment prospects in that sector.

You'll meet dickhead, nasty people like that all your life, time to get used to it. You can spread the word verbally about your experiences, but don't get vindictive or nasty, stick to the truth. It tends to come out in the end.

miketheDIYman

If you were my daughter I would tell you to GROW UP
I've had a quick read through some of your previous posts and you seem to have, like most of us a few issues, its good you have a big impression of yourself and your capabilities but you must prove this to your bosses before you can progress. Life in the workplace can be stressful for all of us so don't feel you have been singled out. Previous poster who recommended you get a Mentor is good advice - 2 heads are better than one !

Donal55

Heat_Wave wrote: »

I think you are confused. I was in a completely different industry beforehand. I left, and I took a risk, in order to return to the industry where my passion lies.

I have never received social welfare, so am not sure what your above comment means.

No. I don't mean to say you're on the dole, what I meant was you were not forced to go to this crowd, ie via jobsbridge, gateway etc.

Heat_Wave

miketheDIYman wrote: »

Previous poster who recommended you get a Mentor is good advice - 2 heads are better than one !

Not sure what you mean by issues, wouldn't agree with that at all.

Agree re the mentor. Will definitely be exploring that idea, thanks.

miketheDIYman

Yes you are a good person, unfortunately you have come across some nasty people.
Hope you can find an employer that appreciates your worth and rewards you for it

Del2005

Donal55 wrote: »

No. I don't mean to say you're on the dole, what I meant was you were not forced to go to this crowd, ie via jobsbridge, gateway etc.

Loads of organisations use interns. For some industries they are the only way into the "trade", you have a degree but no experience, the vast majority are legit and a lot will pay. A few companies, and our government, use them as free labour, the OP picked the wrong company

miketheDIYman wrote: »

If you were my daughter I would tell you to GROW UP
I've had a quick read through some of your previous posts and you seem to have, like most of us a few issues, its good you have a big impression of yourself and your capabilities but you must prove this to your bosses before you can progress. Life in the workplace can be stressful for all of us so don't feel you have been singled out. Previous poster who recommended you get a Mentor is good advice - 2 heads are better than one !

A company that lets a dog sh!t in the kitchen and has abused the last two interns in the same way and you are blaming the OP!

miketheDIYman

Not blaming the OP just trying to shock her into moving on
she's in an unfortunate situation but needs to see beyond present
employer

Del2005

miketheDIYman wrote: »

Not blaming the OP just trying to shock her into moving on
she's in an unfortunate situation but needs to see beyond present
employer

They've already fired her.

Scraggs

Heat_Wave wrote: »

I'll be very honest, I was promised free meals in upmarket restaurants, overnight stays in 5* hotels, opportunities to travel, opportunities to attend events etc.

We attended two events, and not one other promise occurred.

I was told I was being made permanent on 25k. I was then let go the following week and was told 'you're not worth 20k'.

I was told I'd be brought out for a meal with the team for my birthday. This did not happen.

I was told I'd be reimbursed for certain expenses. This did not happen.

I was told I'd be given a voucher. This did not happen.

They did not adhere to one single thing they promised me, and now I am waiting to start a part time job until I find the right full time job for me. The whole thing is disgusting and I would love if there was 'anything' I could do, anything at all. People should not be exploited like this.

If it sounds too good to be true it usually is! An awful experience for you but a valuable life lesson.

Honestly I think the best thing is to take the high road, dust yourself off and learn from the experience. Negative Facebook reviews no matter how well written always look petty in my opinion and could be read by future employers as you being at fault/no good at the job as it's out of context.

An unpaid internship looks good on a CV if you can show how you developed skills/learned about the industry etc. So work on your CV and learn to confidently explain how you to decided to leave a paid job and work unpaid for 2 months to get experience and you learned XYZ while there. Use this experience as a building block to getting to where you want to be rather than a road block.

mahamageehad

Heat_Wave wrote: »

I am considering leaving a review on their Facebook page, as they cannot edit, delete or respond to this. If I go ahead and write one, it will be dignified, and simply a warning to future interns. Would this be advisable?

What a sh!tty experience OP. Agree with the others re just leaving it and moving on. You can report them to the HSE for the dog issue. The Facebook review is ill advised and pointless, they could easily just delete it and all it will do is make you look petty. Or am I missing something?

Also, I couldn't agree more with the poster that talked about finding the positives in the internship. How you spin it is up to you. At least you've gotten a foot in the door and some relevant industry experience! As much as I'd love to tell you to name and shame (I'm super curious now!), the industry sounds really niche and I think you'd be shooting yourself in the foot.

Avatar MIA

First of all, Internships can work for the Internees. Like actual jobs, some don't pan out as desired.

On reading the OP's update, and the swift change in the attitude from the MD, it would indicate that the OP's post was recognised (it was almost certain to be considering the unusual and explicit details revealed) and the MD told. So, the reason the OP was let go was most likely for airing dirty laundry.

But, to be honest - it looks like they did you a favour.

OldMrBrennan83

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Patww79 wrote: »

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She's only there 8 weeks, doing a great job... If they were that way inclined they could have strung her along for months more.

AndrewJRenko

Avatar MIA wrote: »

First of all, Internships can work for the Internees.

They can work for some internees - usually those that have family or other resources to fall back on. They tend to promote inequality - so those from wealthy and comfortable families can take these jobs to break into industries that those who rely on income to live/eat can't.

Avatar MIA

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

They can work for some internees - usually those that have family or other resources to fall back on. They tend to promote inequality - so those from wealthy and comfortable families can take these jobs to break into industries that those who rely on income to live/eat can't.

I started off in an industry that paid less than social welfare - it was the done thing. I had zero connections and found it very tough to get into. It worked out very well for me and quite a number of my friends that were in similar positions.

As I've pointed out before and not wanting to derail the thread... People seem okay with the concept of spending years in University, but not appreciate that you will get an additional education as an intern. It's not for everybody, but it does work well for some.

AndrewJRenko

Avatar MIA wrote: »

I started off in an industry that paid less than social welfare - it was the done thing. I had zero connections and found it very tough to get into. It worked out very well for me and quite a number of my friends that were in similar positions.
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How did you manage to pay your own rent and food on less that social welfare?

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AndrewJRenko wrote: »

How did you manage to pay your own rent and food on less that social welfare?

Hah! Very hard. I lived in a place that's now boarded up. But, my then girlfriend (now wife) had a temp job and we managed. But, when we went shopping we brought a calculator with us so we knew we wouldn't go over our budget :pac: Ah, happy days.

Mrs OBumble

Avatar MIA wrote: »

I started off in an industry that paid less than social welfare - it was the done thing.

Yup .. but at least it paid.

Many doing apprenticeships would also get paid less than social welfare, too.

Unpaid internships are a whole different thing though. IMHO everyone should simply refuse to do them now that unemployment is back to minimal.

There's no company worth working for that cannot afford to pay minimum wage.

AndrewJRenko

Avatar MIA wrote: »

But, my then girlfriend (now wife) had a temp job and we managed.

I guess that would fall in the category of 'family resources to fall back on' that I mentioned earlier.

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AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Avatar MIA wrote: »

But, my then girlfriend (now wife) had a temp job and we managed.

I guess that would fall in the category of 'family resources to fall back on' that I mentioned earlier.

Maybe... but, if I had to I would have git a min relevant job, spared up and then entered the industry.

Avatar MIA

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Avatar MIA wrote: »

But, my then girlfriend (now wife) had a temp job and we managed.

I guess that would fall in the category of 'family resources to fall back on' that I mentioned earlier.

Maybe... but, if I had to I would have git a min relevant job, spared up and then entered the industry.