Why is there a year on a number plate?

jca

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nope. Laois is the same in Irish and English.

IC...

colm_mcm

...what you did there

GrumpyMe

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

CURRENT Irish plates are incredibly crap...

Fixed that for you!

Bring back the old Irish ones I say!

https://tinyurl.com/jcvhlpz

smelly sock

Its motivated by car dealers and people who think having a 171 gives them a higher social standing. Even though they have financed the Titsey off themselves for it.I have 07 and am really happy with it because it's within my means.

Eric Cartman

is it ideal - absolutely not. But once you get over it .

In 2012 i bought my 99 7 series for under 1000 euro, an absolute steal.

If we lived in this 'ideal' ireland with no motor tax or years on the plate, that car would easily be 6 grand. Let the people ogle their new plastic plate and desire it, makes second hand cars way cheaper than they should be for the likes of me.

smelly sock

Eric Cartman wrote: »

is it ideal - absolutely not. But once you get over it .

In 2012 i bought my 99 7 series for under 1000 euro, an absolute steal.

If we lived in this 'ideal' ireland with no motor tax or years on the plate, that car would easily be 6 grand. Let the people ogle their new plastic plate and desire it, makes second hand cars way cheaper than they should be for the likes of me.

I don't agree with you saying the car would be easily 6 grand. But then again you drive a beamer so we wont agree on much I'd think.
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Eric Cartman

smelly sock wrote: »

I don't agree with you saying the car would be easily 6 grand. But then again you drive a beamer so we wont agree on much I'd think.
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2/10 but ill humour you.


USA , no tax, no year on the plate, 2000 740il with an ABS problem , $6999
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=421828691&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3FstartYear%3D1998%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26seriesCodeList%3D7_SERIES%26endYear%3D2000%26makeCodeList%3DBMW&startYear=1998&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2000&makeCodeList=BMW&makeCode1=BMW&modelCode1=740IL

smelly sock

Eric Cartman wrote: »

2/10 but ill humour you.


USA , no tax, no year on the plate, 2000 740il with an ABS problem , $6999
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=421828691&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3FstartYear%3D1998%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26seriesCodeList%3D7_SERIES%26endYear%3D2000%26makeCodeList%3DBMW&startYear=1998&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2000&makeCodeList=BMW&makeCode1=BMW&modelCode1=740IL

Yes but still though. 2-3k at a stretch.

colm_mcm

If tax went, of course you'd get something like a 740 as a weekend car. There's only so many of them out there.

Eric Cartman

colm_mcm wrote: »

If tax went, of course you'd get something like a 740 as a weekend car. There's only so many of them out there.

If the year on the plate went I'd wager you'd have people jumping on getting the first of a new / face lifted model and holding on to it till the next one came out. If the neighbours won't notice , whats the point in changing (high mileage users obviously excluded) :pac:

J.pilkington

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

And in the US the license plate is registered to you not the vehicle, so when you change vehicle you bring the plate with you.

That's not true. Maybe in one or two states but definitely not the norm

SBPhoto

Even though they have financed the Titsey off themselves for it
And you have proof of this|||

Carawaystick

Deleted User wrote: »

In the Uk the current system is as follows.
First 2 letters is a code for the DVLA office where first registered eg London is LA to LY.
Next 2 numbers are the time of year registered. eg if registered in March 2015 - 15. If registered in Sept 2015 - 65. Last 3 numbers are random and individual to that car.
eg LA15ABC = London march 2015 ABC. Not too dis similar to our own system. only we use more numbers than letters. The same car in Dublin would read 151D123

All the cars I see on the M1 with yellow regs dont seem to follow this 'UK' system....

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Charles Babbage

GM228 wrote: »

This was the main reason for the change, in 1986 John Boland suggested and implemented the change form 1987 to distinguish between North and South as both sides used the same registration system.

This is nonsense. The South had ran out of plates as they only used 3 digits.

SBPhoto wrote:

Even though they have financed the Titsey off themselves for it
And you have proof of this

There should be special symbol on number plates for cars bought on credit, which cannot be removed until everything is paid off.

colm_mcm

Yes. The only thing you're allowed to overstretched yourself on is property.

OldMrBrennan83

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Cows Go µ

Carawaystick wrote: »

All the cars I see on the M1 with yellow regs dont seem to follow this 'UK' system....

Probably because they are NI cars which have a different system to England. If I remember correctly they have three letters which are the area and year followed by numbers. But I could be wrong about that as it was years ago I looked into it

shamrock55

Always hated the system here with the year on the reg,i think it puts pressure on people to upgrade their cars as there is a fierce keep up with the joneses mentallity in this country

Guy:Incognito

Eric Cartman wrote: »

If the year on the plate went I'd wager you'd have people jumping on getting the first of a new / face lifted model and holding on to it till the next one came out. If the neighbours won't notice , whats the point in changing (high mileage users obviously excluded) :pac:

First hit and didn't read too much in to it but going by the figures in the table on the right and their respective populations , Germany and the UK have about the same rate of new cars buyers. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Passenger_cars_in_the_EU

I'll leave you to check any others

Guy:Incognito

Why are you overstretching or buying something you can't afford if you finance a car and pay for it over 5 years rather than saving for 5 years and buying it outright?

Being able to make your payments comfortably on a loan is affording it.

jca

Cows Go µ wrote: »

Probably because they are NI cars which have a different system to England. If I remember correctly they have three letters which are the area and year followed by numbers. But I could be wrong about that as it was years ago I looked into it

You're wrong, not surprising for boards, the land of mis-i formation. The second pair of letters designate the county or city, everything else is a continuation of the sequence, exactly the same as our old pre 87 system. The major difference between the systems was that in NI they had 7 characters on the plate 9999 per letter instead of our 6 character plate 999 per letter.

K.Flyer

The reason we went to year- county - number was primarily because we had run out of ideas for letter - number configurations.
Some on here are probably to young or not living in the country long enough to remember the old system. It was generally a combination of two letters and four numbers or three letters and three numbers either way around.
Letters were county and year specific, so even back then we had new car / year envy and county dislikes, so these days its nothing new.
The reason we didn't go to three letters and four was to avoid confusion with N.I. and the powers that be were not going to adopt the U.K. system for obvious reasons.
Another reason for the new system was to do with car imports. A 1980 car imported in 1985 would be given a 1985 plate. Consequently there were plenty of older vehicles going around with new plates causing great confusion and it was particularly annoying to new vehicle owners. Case in point I had a 1978 on a 1985 plate.
The new system meant imports were given year specific regs as they couldn't run out of numbers. The ZV reg scheme came a bit later.
The new system works.
The only load of boll@ks was splitting the year up to create even more reg year envy, but suckers bought into that, so hey ho.

RobAMerc

motoring policy in Ireland is delegated to the SIMI by the government.
The year on plate was devised by them to sell cars because paddy measures his neighbours wealth by the number on their car.

millington

I quite like the Irish system, it gives a sense of identity to the car. If you don't want people to know you have a new car, then don't buy one.

Victor

Marcusm wrote: »

An even more important question would be what DTTAS idiot decided that Dublin was Baile Atha Cliath rather than Ath Cliath

Baile Átha Cliath is correct. There is no such place as Ath Cliath (in Dublin). In any case, motor tax in Dublin is run by Dublin City Council, so Baile Átha Cliath is correct.

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TYrone?

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Any time I buy a new car I order new plates for it without the Irish county on them as there's no reason for it to be there and it just looks better.

Strictly speaking, this is non-compliant.

jca

RobAMerc wrote: »

motoring policy in Ireland is delegated to the SIMI by the government.
The year on plate was devised by them to sell cars because paddy measures his neighbours wealth by the number on their car.

No it wasn't. As has been said here several times, the present system came into being because many counties were running out of letter/number combinations on the old system. I remember ads in the papers asking people for ideas for a new system, the main criteria being that it should be as infinite as possible without being fatally flawed like the outgoing system. It had nothing to do with Paddy whackery at all. I think it's a very good system except for that stupid split year addition, it looks ridiculous in such a small country. I do like the UK 3 letter combo for the sequential part. 18 D AAA being the first registration of 2018 for Dublin would look very neat indeed. I can dream I suppose...

millington

Carawaystick wrote: »

All the cars I see on the M1 with yellow regs dont seem to follow this 'UK' system....

Probably cars from Northern Ireland, they use a different system more or less the same as what the Republic used until 1986

Wildcard7

I kind of like the system, as it's easy to remember. Well I remember the year and the county of my car number plate, the third part with the actual number is what I keep forgetting.

Why someone would care what county is on their number plate when they buy a used car is completely beyond me, but then again I don't understand half the thinking about cars in this country. I drive an 06 Toyota that was paid for in cash 3 years ago, and around me I see people who earn half as much as me with crippling credit card and debts that go and buy new cars for 30k and more. My question isn't "how?", but rather "why?".

jca

Wildcard7 wrote: »

I kind of like the system, as it's easy to remember. Well I remember the year and the county of my car number plate, the third part with the actual number is what I keep forgetting.

Why someone would care what county is on their number plate when they buy a used car is completely beyond me, but then again I don't understand half the thinking about cars in this country. I drive an 06 Toyota that was paid for in cash 3 years ago, and around me I see people who earn half as much as me with crippling credit card and debts that go and buy new cars for 30k and more. My question isn't "how?", but rather "why?".

Exactly, I'm happy with my 09 Octavia I bought in 14 which was paid for in 15 courtesy of a small credit union loan. I almost fell for the easy lure of the dreaded PCP deal but saw sense and held on to what I had.