Handicap FAQ

dan_ep82

GUI Handicap

To aquire a GUI handicap in Ireland you MUST first :

Join a GUI affiliated Golf Club

Play 3 casual rounds from the competition tee's and get someone sign your card.

The person signing the card must be acceptable to your club commite. Generally another member or GUI member will suffice.Generally your best 2 9 hole scores will be used.

If you have a problem getting a card signed, be it not knowing other golfers etc, ask your Pro or Handicap Secetary and they should be able to join you to a group or ask a member for you.

Returning to Golf/ GUI


If you previously held a GUI Handicap and are returning you will have to re-submit 3 cards to get a new handicap.

If you held a GUI Handicap within the last 6 months your previous handicap is still valid

Open Competitions

To Play in an Away Open Competition you MUST :
Have Played 3 Single competition rounds in your home club the previous year


If you have just recieved a new handicap this will count and you can play in Open competitons immediatly.



If you get cut from an away competition you must inform your Handicap Secetary. Also if you get cut and Golfnet has not adjusted your Handicap yet you must adjust this yourself until rectified.

Eg: You win a competition today and get cut two shots from 18 to 16. Tomorrow you are playing another competition, in the event your HC is not updated you must play off 16 not 18.

dan_ep82

Input on this appreciated in case I'm wrong in any areas. Hopefully once settled it should help for any handicap questions or at least the basic ones.

red ears

Who can sign the card, do they need to be a certain age, i'm sure they will have a handicap themselves. Can they mark in a two ball or must it be at least 3 ball etc.

dan_ep82

red ears wrote: »

Who can sign the card, do they need to be a certain age, i'm sure they will have a handicap themselves. Can they mark in a two ball or must it be at least 3 ball etc.

I'm not sure on the age, my first H/C I had a junior sign mine on recommendation of the Pro.

No need for more than yourself and the marker from my experience.

charlieIRL

From what I get form that statement, you don't have to play the 3 rounds in a competition which is often mentioned here.

When i returned to golf from a small break it was 3 casual rounds (from the competition tees) that I played for my handicap.

dan_ep82

charlieIRL wrote: »

From what I get form that statement, you don't have to play the 3 rounds in a competition which is often mentioned here.

When i returned to golf from a small break it was 3 casual rounds (from the competition tees) that I played for my handicap.

Changed it there.

Kingswood Rover

red ears wrote: »

Who can sign the card, do they need to be a certain age, i'm sure they will have a handicap themselves. Can they mark in a two ball or must it be at least 3 ball etc.

Anyone that the committee of the club you are joining deems acceptable can mark and sign your card for acquiring a new handicap. Finding out from the committee who is acceptable is the trick.

JP85

What's the process of handing in scorecard if you are playing on a "society" weekend trip? If its not an official competition within the away club, do i need to submit the scorecards to my handicap secretary for review?

spacecoyote

You've no requirement to submit cards for society golf.

The Premier Man

Something I wondered for a while.say for example I play an open on a Saturday and shoot 36pts.i then play in my home club on the Sunday off the same exact handicap presuming I was in the buffer the day previously. I win in my home club with 40 odd points.
On Monday in my golfnet account it comes up that in the competition on the Saturday the css was 34 and I get cut .4 which changes my handicap from say 7 to 6,but I played off 7 Sunday and won.
What is the result of this bearing in mind I couldn't of known of the css being low the day before??

JP85

spacecoyote wrote: »

You've no requirement to submit cards for society golf.

Ok cool, i thought there was a changed in the GUI rules that if you are playing in a society over a certain number of players you need to submit your card/s.

kieran.

spacecoyote wrote: »

You've no requirement to submit cards for society golf.

Incorrect, if your round is off tees with a SSS you have to report it.

8.12 Congu Manual

"it is mandatory for both clubs and players to report to Home Clubs all
Non-Qualifying Scores from Team and Society Golf played over a course for which the Union has allotted a Standard Scratch score together with notification of the relevant SSS"

username?!

If I play in an away competition and I submit my card what happens next?

Do I submit my card to my club also for handicap review ( A copy of it)?
Does the away club I played in update my Golfnet handicap, Does this mean I have to put my GUI number on the card if playing away?

Basically, how does the away card score and possible cut or increase come back to my home club?

Also, great thread idea.

spacecoyote

kieran. wrote: »

Incorrect, if your round is off tees with a SSS you have to report it.

8.12 Congu Manual

"it is mandatory for both clubs and players to report to Home Clubs all
Non-Qualifying Scores from Team and Society Golf played over a course for which the Union has allotted a Standard Scratch score together with notification of the relevant SSS"

Cheers Kieran. I stand corrected. I always thought that you could submit them for review, but there was no obligation to do so

dan_ep82

The Premier Man wrote: »

Something I wondered for a while.say for example I play an open on a Saturday and shoot 36pts.i then play in my home club on the Sunday off the same exact handicap presuming I was in the buffer the day previously. I win in my home club with 40 odd points.
On Monday in my golfnet account it comes up that in the competition on the Saturday the css was 34 and I get cut .4 which changes my handicap from say 7 to 6,but I played off 7 Sunday and won.
What is the result of this bearing in mind I couldn't of known of the css being low the day before??

I would presume the onus is on you to check the previous day css and adjust accordingly. If not i think a DQ?

dan_ep82

username?! wrote: »

If I play in an away competition and I submit my card what happens next?

Do I submit my card to my club also for handicap review ( A copy of it)?
Does the away club I played in update my Golfnet handicap, Does this mean I have to put my GUI number on the card if playing away?

Basically, how does the away card score and possible cut or increase come back to my home club?

Also, great thread idea.

From my own experience the away competition will show up on its own. So either the away club does it or theybforward on the details to your club.

I always put my gui number on, most will require it on a login computer for the comp.

The Premier Man

dan_ep82 wrote:

I would presume the onus is on you to check the previous day css and adjust accordingly. If not i think a DQ?

But in the case of a comp running over 2 days(sat and sunday) like some opens do?the css won't be calculated until Sunday evening at the earliest

martinkop

If CSS is not published by time of next event entry, then you go by SSS

Rikand

The Premier Man wrote: »

But in the case of a comp running over 2 days(sat and sunday) like some opens do?the css won't be calculated until Sunday evening at the earliest

There is (or should be) a CSS calculated for each day. So Saturdays CSS could be 34 and Sundays 35. As proof of this look at the scores from the Irish amateur last weekend. Separate CSS's each day.

If your comp sec/handicap sec isn't doing this its because of ::

A.) He doesn't know he neeeds to do it

B.) He doesn't have time to do it

But he should be doing it

Seve OB

JP85 wrote: »

What's the process of handing in scorecard if you are playing on a "society" weekend trip? If its not an official competition within the away club, do i need to submit the scorecards to my handicap secretary for review?

spacecoyote wrote: »

You've no requirement to submit cards for society golf.

kieran. wrote: »

Incorrect, if your round is off tees with a SSS you have to report it.

8.12 Congu Manual

"it is mandatory for both clubs and players to report to Home Clubs all
Non-Qualifying Scores from Team and Society Golf played over a course for which the Union has allotted a Standard Scratch score together with notification of the relevant SSS"

I remember sending numerous cards from society outings to the handicap secretary, but they were only for reductions. Never looking for .1 back. Nothing used to happen! Asked the fella one day and he said he got them alright and would put through a general cut of 3 shots. This long before the days of golfnet.

I'm sure if you were to take it to the later of the law and submit every card from all society outings for cuts and .1's back, the secretary would soon have a pain in his arse with societys!

Kieran, do you send all your Boards Society cards back to your club?

Seve OB

username?! wrote: »

If I play in an away competition and I submit my card what happens next?

Do I submit my card to my club also for handicap review ( A copy of it)?
Does the away club I played in update my Golfnet handicap, Does this mean I have to put my GUI number on the card if playing away?

Basically, how does the away card score and possible cut or increase come back to my home club?

Also, great thread idea.

I think the competition club will basically update Golfnet and it will appear on golfnet as an unprocessed away score. Then your home club must sign off on it for the handicap change to be affected. I've seen this take a while to process in the past, all down to the effeciency of both clubs.

Now if it is to get .1 back, you must wait till your home club processes the change. So if you were off 12.4, you stay playing off 12 untill it is fully processed. But if it is a cut, then you must apply that yourself straight away. As stated above, if you don't know the CSS, use the SSS.

_DMac_

Hey. Another away score question here. I had an issue with my GUI account where it wasn't registered properly by my club and none of my away scores came thru for the last year or so. Eventually it was sorted but now there are still a few away scores still haven't been processed as they were played before the GUI registration mess up. Do I need to contact golfnet re this or is it a case of put pressure on my handicap secretary to sort it out.


Thanks

dizzy_87

So just quick question on here, how long does it generally take once you have handed your 3 cards in to actually get your handicap? should i be complaining to someone that it has been over a fortnight since cards were handed in and no official GUI handicap yet.

dan_ep82

dizzy_87 wrote: »

So just quick question on here, how long does it generally take once you have handed your 3 cards in to actually get your handicap? should i be complaining to someone that it has been over a fortnight since cards were handed in and no official GUI handicap yet.

I wouldn't go as far as a complaint but a phone call is a good idea.

fred funk }{

dizzy_87 wrote: »

So just quick question on here, how long does it generally take once you have handed your 3 cards in to actually get your handicap? should i be complaining to someone that it has been over a fortnight since cards were handed in and no official GUI handicap yet.

Have you asked them how long it takes?

Instead of looking to complain, remember that these things are done by volunteers and although it shouldn't take two weeks to do it's quite likely that it has fallen by the way side.

The Rape of Lucretia

dizzy_87 wrote: »

So just quick question on here, how long does it generally take once you have handed your 3 cards in to actually get your handicap? should i be complaining to someone that it has been over a fortnight since cards were handed in and no official GUI handicap yet.

Who did you hand the to ?

davegilly

dizzy_87 wrote: »

So just quick question on here, how long does it generally take once you have handed your 3 cards in to actually get your handicap? should i be complaining to someone that it has been over a fortnight since cards were handed in and no official GUI handicap yet.

That seems very long. I handed my third in on a Friday and got hcap on Sunday. Maybe give them a call and ask? I didn't get card and pin yet though so can't login to golfnet but not sure what's even in that to be honest,. Am I missing anything?

slingerz

Seve OB wrote: »

I think the competition club will basically update Golfnet and it will appear on golfnet as an unprocessed away score. Then your home club must sign off on it for the handicap change to be affected. I've seen this take a while to process in the past, all down to the effeciency of both clubs.

Now if it is to get .1 back, you must wait till your home club processes the change. So if you were off 12.4, you stay playing off 12 untill it is fully processed. But if it is a cut, then you must apply that yourself straight away. As stated above, if you don't know the CSS, use the SSS.

You would expect in this day and age that every club would have a computer linked to golfnet that adjusted the handicaps based on the scores submitted rather than waiting for the various clubs involved etc.

Rikand

slingerz wrote: »

You would expect in this day and age that every club would have a computer linked to golfnet that adjusted the handicaps based on the scores submitted rather than waiting for the various clubs involved etc.

This is the GUI we're talking about here....

Rikand

_DMac_ wrote: »

Hey. Another away score question here. I had an issue with my GUI account where it wasn't registered properly by my club and none of my away scores came thru for the last year or so. Eventually it was sorted but now there are still a few away scores still haven't been processed as they were played before the GUI registration mess up. Do I need to contact golfnet re this or is it a case of put pressure on my handicap secretary to sort it out.


Thanks

You need to get onto your handicap secretary. Golfnet/GUI take no responsibility and take the stats they have from individual clubs

dizzy_87

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Who did you hand the to ?

Just to the pro shop, he informed me that he just gives the cards into the back room and then someone else enters the scores in on the computer.