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€300M Investment into Waterford City

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    #302
    Gavlor
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Why we need the jobs this would bring, sorry it's a bit small

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    Nine unemployment black spots - 8 of them over 30%, second highest in the state.

    With respect, I don't think the jobs created by the proposed development will have any impact on those areas. Long term voluntary unemployment is rampant in certain areas in most cities as per that report.


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    #303
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Not directly no, but the shop girls work in the shops when they are open. The tyre fitters fit tyres when people are buying cars.


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    #304
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    Gavlor wrote: »
    With respect, I don't think the jobs created by the proposed development will have any impact on those areas. Long term voluntary unemployment is rampant in certain areas in most cities as per that report.

    A thousand or so jobs always will be good, construction, retail, hotel, offices, etc etc...jobs there for nearly anyone interested.in a city with unemployment rate of 18.8% (today's Irish times), these jobs would have substantial impact.

    Add, possibly misleading there....April 2016 census figures, national rate was 12.9 then.


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    #305
    Gavlor
    Registered Users Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    There's no doubt the jobs created will be fantastic for the south east but I'm not convinced that it will have any significant effect on the areas referenced in the report above.


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    #306
    BBM77
    Registered Users Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭BBM77


    Gavlor wrote: »
    With respect, I don't think the jobs created by the proposed development will have any impact on those areas. Long term voluntary unemployment is rampant in certain areas in most cities as per that report.

    Agreed, not sure what this even proves exactly.

    Did anybody see RTE’s coverage about this in Waterford on the SixOne News yesterday? Just wondering if anybody else was annoyed by it? I thought it was patronising.


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    #307
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    BBM77 wrote: »
    Agreed, not sure what this even proves exactly.

    Did anybody see RTE’s coverage about this in Waterford on the SixOne News yesterday? Just wondering if anybody else was annoyed by it? I thought it was patronising.

    Can you expand bbm,
    Ta


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    #308
    BBM77
    Registered Users Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭BBM77


    Max Powers wrote: »
    Can you expand bbm,
    Ta

    This @ 16:30 mins

    https://www.rte.ie/news/player/six-one-news/


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    #309
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    BBM77 wrote: »
    Agreed, not sure what this even proves exactly.

    Did anybody see RTE’s coverage about this in Waterford on the SixOne News yesterday? Just wondering if anybody else was annoyed by it? I thought it was patronising.

    I thought it completely unnecessary to show that fight scene in the Glass segment. It added nothing at all to the report.


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    #310
    Deiseen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    BBM77 wrote: »
    Max Powers wrote: »
    Can you expand bbm,
    Ta

    This @ 16:30 mins

    https://www.rte.ie/news/player/six-one-news/
    Not too bad in fairness


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    #311
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    Is part of this deal a mosque(s) ?


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    #312
    914
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭914


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Is part of this deal a mosque(s) ?

    Why would it be?


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    #313
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    914 wrote: »
    Why would it be?

    Because its Saudi investment.


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    #314
    914
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    dadad231 wrote: »
    Because its Saudi investment.

    So with the American investment into city Square will that consist of a Christian Church or jehovah witness praying area?


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    #315
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Because its Saudi investment.

    Keep your frankly silly dog whistle racist comments to yourself dadad.


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    #316
    Deiseen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    dadad231 wrote: »
    914 wrote: »
    Why would it be?

    Because its Saudi investment.

    Ludicrous thought process.

    BUT if it did, so what? There's one in Waterford already, if they wanted another or an improved one then so what? Let them have it.


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    #317
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    Max Powers wrote: »
    Keep your frankly silly dog whistle racist comments to yourself dadad.

    Racist ?
    What ?
    Saudi Arabia has been known to build mosques in lots of foreign cities!


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    #318
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    Deiseen wrote: »
    Ludicrous thought process.

    BUT if it did, so what? There's one in Waterford already, if they wanted another or an improved one then so what? Let them have it.

    Id be worried about Wahhibism , Saudi funded mosques are known to be hotbeds of radicalism.


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    #319
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    914 wrote: »
    So with the American investment into city Square will that consist of a Christian Church or jehovah witness praying area?
    I wouldn't be too in favour of any christian churches being built either but I think America is not a theocracy - so silly comparison in fairness.


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    914
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    dadad231 wrote: »
    I wouldn't be too in favour of any christian churches being built either but I think America is not a theocracy - so silly comparison in fairness.

    I just don't see why you associate a business investment with building religious centre's. It is possible to build a religious centre without investing 300million


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    #321
    Deiseen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Deiseen wrote: »
    Ludicrous thought process.

    BUT if it did, so what? There's one in Waterford already, if they wanted another or an improved one then so what? Let them have it.

    Id be worried about Wahhibism , Saudi funded mosques are known to be hotbeds of radicalism.
    I understand that concern, considering the Saudi connection but just because a private company wants to invest money here, doesn't mean that they will build a Mosque (or that it will house extremists). The company needs to function as a business and I doubt it has money to throw around building Mosques for the craic!
    Likewise if the Saudis wanted to build Mosques then what's to stop them building one anywhere in Ireland? Nothing.


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    #322
    dadad231
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    Good , hope its just that a property investment, now there was no need for @Max Powers to call me a racist though!!


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    #323
    Max Powers
    Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Good , hope its just that a property investment, now there was no need for @Max Powers to call me a racist though!!

    Dog whistle racism dadad, don't post it and you won't be accused of it.


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    #324
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    Max Powers wrote: »
    Dog whistle racism dadad, don't post it and you won't be accused of it.

    What the hell is Dog Whiste racism ?

    And how can I be racist against Islam ?


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    #325
    Deiseen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Max Powers wrote: »
    Dog whistle racism dadad, don't post it and you won't be accused of it.

    What the hell is Dog Whiste racism ?

    And how can I be racist against Islam ?
    Your one and only contribution to this thread was a post saying you hoped there wouldn't be a mosque built as part of this development. Kind of gives the wrong impression.....


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    #326
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    Deiseen wrote: »
    Your one and only contribution to this thread was a post saying you hoped there wouldn't be a mosque built as part of this development. Kind of gives the wrong impression.....

    Its not racism though !
    And I didnt - I asked was a mosque part of the plan.

    Only reason I commented on the thread was I saw it on the homepage, or trending.


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    #327
    Deiseen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Deiseen wrote: »
    Your one and only contribution to this thread was a post saying you hoped there wouldn't be a mosque built as part of this development. Kind of gives the wrong impression.....

    Its not racism though !
    And I didnt - I asked was a mosque part of the plan.

    Only reason I commented on the thread was I saw it on the homepage, or trending.
    But why even ask that?


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    #328
    dadad231
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    Deiseen wrote: »
    But why even ask that?

    OK lets end it here , this will be my last post.
    It wasn't racist , it wasn't anti Muslim.
    My ears pricked up as soon as I seen it was a Saudi investment, as whatever way you look
    at it they are known to heavily invest in Mosques around the world - and I thought it was reasonable to wonder did a few mosques feature in this deal.

    That's it , seems I am wrong, it is a pure infrastructure deal !

    Great ! fantastic for jobs , they are a great bunch of lads.


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    #329
    Deiseen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Deiseen wrote: »
    But why even ask that?

    OK lets end it here , this will be my last post.
    It wasn't racist , it wasn't anti Muslim.
    My ears pricked up as soon as I seen it was a Saudi investment, as whatever way you look
    at it they are known to heavily invest in Mosques around the world - and I thought it was reasonable to wonder did a few mosques feature in this deal.

    That's it , seems I am wrong, it is a pure infrastructure deal !

    Great ! fantastic for jobs , they are a great bunch of lads.
    I have the same concerns about Saudi Arabia myself but I see the separation between this investment and the Saudi regime.


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    #330
    TheQuietFella
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    dadad231 wrote: »
    Good , hope its just that a property investment, now there was no need for @Max Powers to call me a racist though!!

    Time of the month for Max!


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    #331
    fuzzy dunlop
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭fuzzy dunlop


    dadad231 wrote: »
    Deiseen wrote: »
    Ludicrous thought process.

    BUT if it did, so what? There's one in Waterford already, if they wanted another or an improved one then so what? Let them have it.

    Id be worried about Wahhibism , Saudi funded mosques are known to be hotbeds of radicalism.
    No they're not, this is a gross and ill informed misconception that has gained traction on social media by BNP and EDL types. Playing football and membership of a football club is a bigger factor and medium for so called radicals to interact. There won't be any moral painic about this anytime soon I suspect.


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