€300M Investment into Waterford City

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Dexpat wrote: »

Well the developers seem ready to commit to the project despite everything. 'Crane by Christmas' mentioned by Rob Cass certainly fits the criteria of a crane ready project for stimulus funding so its up to the government to put up or shut up.

I think we all know they'll never put up and never shut up

Harry Palmr

Kilkenny Coco with pass marks for 4 North Quay related developments

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/07/06/ferrybank-urdf-projects-graded-favourably-in-pwc-study/

Nice "what might be" image

Stopitwillya

Looks impressive. Doesn't the South Quays look so much better without cars parked there. A large park going the length of the quay, with playgrounds, ice rink, plenty of green areas for picnics on summer days, extension of the Greenway would really add to our city and help attract more people to the city centre. Would love to see the council CPO them car parks.

Muttley79

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Kilkenny Coco with pass marks for 4 North Quay related developments

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/07/06/ferrybank-urdf-projects-graded-favourably-in-pwc-study/

Nice "what might be" image

Hopefully Kilkenny council can see the economic benefits it would have for the whole south east region when Waterford/Kilkenny/Wexford pull together on projects.its time it stopped this hurling attitude of county Vs county and it's time it's started looking at a region as a whole as is so much to offer a population of 500k

BBM77

Stopitwillya wrote: »

Looks impressive. Doesn't the South Quays look so much better without cars parked there. A large park going the length of the quay, with playgrounds, ice rink, plenty of green areas for picnics on summer days, extension of the Greenway would really add to our city and help attract more people to the city centre. Would love to see the council CPO them car parks.

Council are part of the problem, they own some of them. But agree surly when the councils work is done with the north quay the next priority is to get ride of car parks on the quay.

JohnC.

It's the Port of Waterford who own most of them, not the council. Isn't the non-Port one owned by some of the businesses, grouped together under some name I can't think of?

aziz

I thought it's a mad situation that the port of Waterford owns the car parks and the council owns the marina's

south

JohnC. wrote: »

It's the Port of Waterford who own most of them, not the council. Isn't the non-Port one owned by some of the businesses, grouped together under some name I can't think of?

Correct, well businessmen.

BBM77

JohnC. wrote: »

It's the Port of Waterford who own most of them, not the council. Isn't the non-Port one owned by some of the businesses, grouped together under some name I can't think of?

The council own the one under the crane.

Aquos76

BBM77 wrote: »

The council own the one under the crane.

Well if they do it’s operated privately then

BBM77

Aquos76 wrote: »

Well if they do it’s operated privately then

Maybe they sold it on again. But definitely remember them buying it though.

curmudgeonly

JohnC. wrote: »

It's the Port of Waterford who own most of them, not the council. Isn't the non-Port one owned by some of the businesses, grouped together under some name I can't think of?

Keeverflow

curmudgeonly

JohnC. wrote: »

It's the Port of Waterford who own most of them, not the council. Isn't the non-Port one owned by some of the businesses, grouped together under some name I can't think of?

Not actually owned but leased on a 35 year lease if memory serves, not too long to the end of that lease now.

curmudgeonly

Dexpat wrote: »

Well the developers seem ready to commit to the project despite everything. 'Crane by Christmas' mentioned by Rob Cass certainly fits the criteria of a crane ready project for stimulus funding so its up to the government to put up or shut up.

Whose crane is the question, personally don't believe it will have anything to do with the existing promoters, the next couple of weeks could see rabbits and hats out of left field.

Dunmoreroader

curmudgeonly wrote: »

Keeverflow

Mulligans Chemists,
Granville Hotel,
Fitzgeralds Menswear,
Kneisels Jewellers,

AFAIK

Wanderer78

curmudgeonly wrote: »

Whose crane is the question, personally don't believe it will have anything to do with the existing promoters, the next couple of weeks could see rabbits and hats from left field.

who are left field?

curmudgeonly

Wanderer78 wrote: »

who are left field?

My typo out of left field

curmudgeonly

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

Mulligans Chemists,
Granville Hotel,
Fitzgeralds Menswear,
Kneisels Jewellers,

AFAIK

And Kathleen Fitzgerald

Wanderer78

curmudgeonly wrote: »

My typo out of left field

sorry im not fully understanding what you mean?

curmudgeonly

Wanderer78 wrote: »

sorry im not fully understanding what you mean?

Its an Americanism from baseball, meaning unexpected and unforeseen.

Dexpat

curmudgeonly wrote: »

Its an Americanism from baseball, meaning unexpected and unforeseen.

I'm intrigued. Sounds like you might have more information than the rest of us.
Idle speculation on my part but I wonder given the unprecedented situation we're in, whether the state would take a stake in the development?

Even if not it wouldn't be a surprise if the developers sell the site on or share the development once it has full planning. They can recoup a lot of what was invested and share the future risk. Hopefully if so it won't lead to further delays whatever happens.

JohnC.

BBM77 wrote: »

The council own the one under the crane.

No, that’s also the Port.

Harry Palmr

So then D Day tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/wlrfm/status/1281197530655703045?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

friendlyfun

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/07/10/north-quays-development-gets-planning-green-light/

We're in luck today

Wanderer78

friendlyfun wrote: »

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/07/10/north-quays-development-gets-planning-green-light/

We're in luck today

down to the government now, on so many levels, this makes great sense for everyone, including the government

Bhoy1967

friendlyfun wrote: »

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/07/10/north-quays-development-gets-planning-green-light/

We're in luck today

Brilliant news - lets hope the government get behind this and come up with the necessary funding to make this happen!

BBM77

Bhoy1967 wrote: »

Brilliant news - lets hope the government get behind this and come up with the necessary funding to make this happen!

The government have actually dug themselves into a hole, if you pardon the pun. They said they are looking for shovel ready projects to stimulate the economy, if they do not get behind the north quays they will have shown that what they say is meaningless after only weeks in power.

friendlyfun

The comments on facebook about this project are attrocious. Some people saying "Not another empty shopping centre" even though there is going to be many offices too

Harry Palmr

The statement from the Dept of Housing etc was very mealy mouthed and straight faced. No actual welcome for 400m of private money!

Dexpat

To misquote Churchill "now this is not the end of the North Quays saga. It is not even the beginning of the end. It is perhaps the end of the beginning"

Really puts it up to the government and their commitment to regional development