€300M Investment into Waterford City

Gavlor

alta stare wrote: »

Did i say the middle of town? I think not.

3 minute wait at the bridge??? You clearly dont come into the city from ferrybank/sallypark in the mornings.

So you think there’s merit in building a new bridge as part of this development in order to alleviate the delays occurring In sallypark between 8.15-8.45 5 days a week?

alta stare

Gavlor wrote: »

So you think there’s merit in building a new bridge as part of this development in order to alleviate the delays occurring In sallypark between 8.15-8.45 5 days a week?

Again where did i say that? Does the new bridge need to be part of this development? Did i say that?? No i did not. You are being silly now.

alta stare

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Is there a secondary school on Ferrybank?

Yeah the abbey.

Gavlor

alta stare wrote: »

Again where did i say that? Does the new bridge need to be part of this development? Did i say that?? No i did not. You are being silly now.

Ok.

Quote: alta stare
Wouldnt it be nice if we were talking about a vehicular bridge and not a pedestrian bridge. The traffic in the mornings and evenings is getting beyond bonkers.

hardybuck

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Is there a secondary school on Ferrybank?

Yes, but a lot of Ferrybank kids still go to the likes of De La Salle et al.

alta stare

Gavlor wrote: »

Ok.

Quote: alta stare
Wouldnt it be nice if we were talking about a vehicular bridge and not a pedestrian bridge. The traffic in the mornings and evenings is getting beyond bonkers.

Where in that post did i explicitly say it should be a road bridge in the location you imagined i was referring to??

The issue here is that you didnt think you just typed. A bridge was mentioned and my reply was about a vehicle bridge but i never once suggested it should be in the location you are on about. You have clearly skimmed over what i typed without much thought.

Gavlor

alta stare wrote: »

Where in that post did i explicitly say it should be a road bridge in the location you imagined i was referring to??

The issue here is that you didnt think you just typed. A bridge was mentioned and my reply was about a vehicle bridge but i never once suggested it should be in the location you are on about. You have clearly skimmed over what i typed without much thought.

Sure there is a second bridge already if that’s the case. Why mention a vehicular bridge instead of a pedestrian bridge if you weren’t implying that it be placed in the same location?

Strange one but I apologise for upsetting you and misinterpreting your post.

Build a bridge

alta stare

Gavlor wrote: »

Sure there is a second bridge already if that’s the case. Why mention a vehicular bridge instead of a pedestrian bridge if you weren’t implying that it be placed in the same location?

Strange one but I apologise for upsetting you and misinterpreting your post.

Build a bridge

The second bridge as already mentioned by another poster is a bypass. The city badly needs another bridge to help alleviate traffic at peak times. If any city really wants to prosper they cant really do so with one bridge.

If this NQ development happens the traffic could potentially be worse at peak times. The pedestrian bridge is very welcome but a more pressing matter would be a vehicular bridge. In my post i merely said it would be great if we were talking about building vehicular bridges and not pedestrian. I never once said where it should be built.

No need to apologise for upsetting me as you didnt. I was only replying to what you had typed and what you typed was wrong in regard to what i had posted.


Build a bridge......i wish they would.

Harry Palmr

The bridge as outlined is vehicular - for a bus.

The other proposed crossing is at Maypark/Ardkeen which is a recipe for chaos even if restricted to domestic vehicles.

alta stare

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The bridge as outlined is vehicular - for a bus.

The other proposed crossing is at Maypark/Ardkeen which is a recipe for chaos even if restricted to domestic vehicles.

For a shuttle bus yes. We need one for ourselves

At some point a new one is needed. I'm sure the planners and engineers will decided the best location.

Deiseen

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The bridge as outlined is vehicular - for a bus.

The other proposed crossing is at Maypark/Ardkeen which is a recipe for chaos even if restricted to domestic vehicles.

Another bridge is also pencilled in by the tower hotel.

Deiseen

alta stare wrote: »

The second bridge as already mentioned by another poster is a bypass. The city badly needs another bridge to help alleviate traffic at peak times. If any city really wants to prosper they cant really do so with one bridge.

If this NQ development happens the traffic could potentially be worse at peak times. The pedestrian bridge is very welcome but a more pressing matter would be a vehicular bridge. In my post i merely said it would be great if we were talking about building vehicular bridges and not pedestrian. I never once said where it should be built.

No need to apologise for upsetting me as you didnt. I was only replying to what you had typed and what you typed was wrong in regard to what i had posted.

Build a bridge......i wish they would.

I think it could actually alleviate some potential traffic by reducing the need for cars to actually come over the bridge. Obviously if you are passing through town then it won't help but if you are working in town, you could park at the NQs and just walk over the bridge. Additionally anyone that use to drive from Ferrybank would now actually be quiet close to town and would not have drive anymore.

alta stare

Deiseen wrote: »

I think it could actually alleviate some potential traffic by reducing the need for cars to actually come over the bridge. Obviously if you are passing through town then it won't help but if you are working in town, you could park at the NQs and just walk over the bridge. Additionally anyone that use to drive from Ferrybank would now actually be quiet close to town and would not have drive anymore.

I agree with what you are saying but id bet most people will still drive. Maybe in the summertime people will walk.

I think the pedestrian bridge is a welcome idea but i just can't see it helping in a significant manner regarding traffic. I drive across the bridge every morning and most of it is spent sitting in traffic. The ferrybank side is the worst. We badly need a second bridge.

Harry Palmr

Deiseen wrote: »

Another bridge is also pencilled in by the tower hotel.

As the traffic would tip out onto the quay/Mall its hard to see the flow logic to that unless a loop is going to be created - ie cross to Ferrybank on Rice bridge, cross from Ferrybank at Tower with no right turn but only for cars and light commercial traffic.

Excuse the toytown graphics!

alta stare

Harry Palmr wrote: »

As the traffic would tip out onto the quay/Mall its hard to see the flow logic to that unless a loop is going to be created - ie cross to Ferrybank on Rice bridge, cross from Ferrybank at Tower with no right turn but only for cars and light commercial traffic.

Excuse the toytown graphics!

Isnt there somewhere up further where it could be built. Not as far as maypark though.

deise08

Harry Palmr wrote: »

As the traffic would tip out onto the quay/Mall its hard to see the flow logic to that unless a loop is going to be created - ie cross to Ferrybank on Rice bridge, cross from Ferrybank at Tower with no right turn but only for cars and light commercial traffic.

Excuse the toytown graphics!

Like they have in enniscorthy?

Jamie2k9

Last week 2 tenders relating to the NQs were published.

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/supplier/publictenders

Harry Palmr

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Last week 2 tenders relating to the NQs were published.

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/supplier/publictenders

The items in question

147607 North Quays- CCTV survey North Quays Waterford- CCTV pipeline and manhole surveys on existing services in all areas of proposed North Quays development

147332 North Quays- Asbestos survey Waterford City and Public Infrastructure Project- North Quays- Precondition survey and asbestos survey

On a related topic
https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=143060&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

TheQuietFella

Will the bus depot be relocated or is that area even a part of the plans.
Considering that the CC compulsory purchased properties behind the
depot surely that area is part of the plans?

Road-Hog

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Will the bus depot be relocated or is that area even a part of the plans.
Considering that the CC compulsory purchased properties behind the
depot surely that area is part of the plans?

Bus Depo to relocate to railway station

Teebor15

Road-Hog wrote: »

Bus Depo to relocate to railway station

Are you sure? I would have thought it would be better to move it out to a greenfield site somewhere. Bus depots should be in industrial areas not in city centres.

Max Powers

Teebor15 wrote: »

Are you sure? I would have thought it would be better to move it out to a greenfield site somewhere. Bus depots should be in industrial areas not in city centres.

Bus station, not depot

Jamie2k9

Teebor15 wrote: »

Are you sure? I would have thought it would be better to move it out to a greenfield site somewhere. Bus depots should be in industrial areas not in city centres.

What is will the current station car parks be used for once its moved. There will be no other development possible on current site.

TheQuietFella

Road-Hog wrote: »

Bus Depo to relocate to railway station

Come back when you're sober!

Road-Hog

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Come back when you're sober!

Sober now...bus Depo on south quay opposite Dooleys hotel to relocate to the to be redundant plunkett station....the existing bus station to be converted into a mixed use development comprising of a cafe, tourist info and greenway bike hire facility

Mulbert

Road-Hog wrote: »

Sober now...bus Depo on south quay opposite Dooleys hotel to relocate to the to be redundant plunkett station....the existing bus station to be converted into a mixed use development comprising of a cafe, tourist info and greenway bike hire facility

First I heard of that. Where did u see that?Plunkett Station won't be redundant.

Teebor15

Max Powers wrote: »

Bus station, not depot

Yes I know the Bus STATION is going into the North Quays development. But we are talking about the Bus DEPOT. Try and keep up!

Teebor15

Road-Hog wrote: »

Sober now...bus Depo on south quay opposite Dooleys hotel to relocate to the to be redundant plunkett station....the existing bus station to be converted into a mixed use development comprising of a cafe, tourist info and greenway bike hire facility

That's not Bus depot, that's a Bus station. The Depot mentioned is where they store and maintain the buses in Ferrybank.

Deiseen

First I've heard of the bus station being moved. In fact I am sure that i specifically saw that it would remain where it is..

Harry Palmr

Bloody hell is someone being deliberately obtuse? A bus depot is where buses rest and are maintained. Not queued for immediate use!

The ferrybank depot must be moving but I've not heard of any site I'd suggest the old foundry but only if it was somewhere else!