€300M Investment into Waterford City

Road-Hog

Teebor15 wrote: »

FFS...if you're on such tender hooks about the whole thing then maybe it's better it does fail as that kinda pressure will do you no good. It's Friday..the sun is shining, its a beautiful day..go for a few pints and relax!

Overly negative repetitive Blathering by ‘tools’ no matter what the situation can turn things sour. Just look at brexit.

Max Powers

Road-Hog wrote: »

Is there a chance that negative sentiments expressed by one or all of the drivers of the executive cars could scupper the whole project. I’ve heard before that visiting billionaires who come to inspect the sites/locations previously selected by their minions can call a Hault or change their minds over very minor things so driver negativity or a religious joke by them could result in the curtains coming down on the whole project...?

If you are concerned about negative commentary, why would you be agreeing with silly comments about fancy cars that aren't as fancy as you think they should be. Nonsense stuff

Harry Palmr

Reference to Kilbarry re Falcon twitter feed. Any ideas?

https://twitter.com/Falcon__RED/status/1111634709778440193

IanVW

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Reference to Kilbarry re Falcon twitter feed. Any ideas?

https://twitter.com/Falcon__RED/status/1111634709778440193

Think thats in relation to a housing development thats going to be built there

Road-Hog

Max Powers wrote: »

If you are concerned about negative commentary, why would you be agreeing with silly comments about fancy cars that aren't as fancy as you think they should be. Nonsense stuff

More annoyed about guys who can’t ‘hold their tongue’......irrespective of the ‘non-signing’ of a ‘non-disclosure’.......mouthing off on social media about who you chauffeured from airport to city on a Monday afternoon in March is somewhat un-professional........

kuang1

Road-Hog wrote: »

More annoyed about guys who can’t ‘hold their tongue’......irrespective of the ‘non-signing’ of a ‘non-disclosure’.......mouthing off on social media about who you chauffeured from airport to city on a Monday afternoon in March is somewhat un-professional........

For all we know they may have asked permission to post what they did.
Or perhaps the visitor's PR people suggested that they post?

We've no idea.
Personally can't imagine a scenario where the limo company went on a solo run on this.

Deiseen

kuang1 wrote: »

For all we know they may have asked permission to post what they did.
Or perhaps the visitor's PR people suggested that they post?

We've no idea.
Personally can't imagine a scenario where the limo company went on a solo run on this.

I reckon it's all PR. No coincidence that they hired a PR company a few weeks back.

Harry Palmr

Anyone here invited?

https://twitter.com/Falcon__RED/status/1113458816794992640

Anyone watching the news earlier on the quays in Dublin? - boardwalk from Phoenix Park to the bay. Something similar along the north quays from the bridge as far as opposite the Tower would be a good tie in with the project.

Max Powers

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Anyone here invited?

https://twitter.com/Falcon__RED/status/1113458816794992640

Anyone watching the news earlier on the quays in Dublin? - boardwalk from Phoenix Park to the bay. Something similar along the north quays from the bridge as far as opposite the Tower would be a good tie in with the project.

I was, didn't make unfortunately.yeah, the plans for the liffey cycle track look good, if they go ahead similar to plans and it's not horrible place like the boardwalk already there along the liffey, junkies etc means I would never walk it when in Dublin.

hardybuck

Max Powers wrote: »

I was, didn't make unfortunately.yeah, the plans for the liffey cycle track look good, if they go ahead similar to plans and it's not horrible place like the boardwalk already there along the liffey, junkies etc means I would never walk it when in Dublin.

The Boardwalk became a den for drug dealers and abusers. The volume of cyclists that will end up whizzing up and down this new route will probably clean up the whole area, it'll reduce traffic, reduce the pressure on Luas Red line and save lives.

People living in Ferrybank should have the option of cycling safely into the city centre. At the moment you'd want to be very brave to consider coming down the dual carriageway and over the bridge.

Waterford, like the other cities outside Dublin, is still massively car orientated, but if the new pedestrian bridge had a cyclist friendly portion that linked up to Ferrybank, it could make a big difference.

Harry Palmr

More movement with a number of deals done to build and fill the NQP

Cushman & Wakefield, a leading global real estate service firm, has been appointed as the leasing agency for the entire North Quays project. Cushman & Wakefield will be responsible for the commercialisation of the retail, office, residential and hospitality components of the project and a leasing campaign targeting potential retailers is already underway.

A full team has been contracted for the design and build-out of the project. The Waterford office of Carron + Walsh has been appointed as both project manager and quantity surveyor for the project.

The executive architect is Echo Architecture, an international London based firm which specialises in design and build solutions for retail and hospitality projects. The planning consultant is BMA Planning.

Fewer Harrington & Partners is the technical architect. Punch Consulting Engineers has been selected as the civil, structural and traffic engineer and also the health & safety consultant. The mechanical and electrical engineer is BDP and the fire engineering consultant is JGA.

https://www.waterfordlive.ie/news/home/374805/advisers-assigned-as-waterford-s-north-quay-development-takes-shape.html

Deisekickboxing

Hold on theres a multi million euro complex lying idle 500 yards from the north quays, surely this is all about apartments and more high rents and more tax free money leaving the country

Harry Palmr

That box is Kilkenny's problem. I hope they are enjoying the rates it's yielding for the county council

Deiseen

Harry Palmr wrote: »

That box is Kilkenny's problem. I hope they are enjoying the rates it's yielding for the county council

How long do we know about the North Quays and we still have people asking questions like the above?

Wanderer78

Deisekickboxing wrote:

Hold on theres a multi million euro complex lying idle 500 yards from the north quays, surely this is all about apartments and more high rents and more tax free money leaving the country

Down with that sort of thing, wealth extraction is good for us all, as wealth trickles down as it's created!

BBM77

Deisekickboxing wrote: »

Hold on theres a multi million euro complex lying idle 500 yards from the north quays, surely this is all about apartments and more high rents and more tax free money leaving the country

This is a pretty ridiculous comment but it did get me thinking. Surely the way to go with the Ferrybank Shopping Centre is to convert it into social apartments.

Deiseen

BBM77 wrote: »

This is a pretty ridiculous comment but it did get me thinking. Surly the way to go with the Ferrybank Shopping Centre is to convert it into social apartments.

I heard they were going to try convert it to offices but its been a while. Maybe their vision is as good as their planning procedure

Harry Palmr

I thought it should be used to house the migrant labour that will built the NQP Some mattresses, some wifi points and a coffee machine. Perfect

robcass78

IanVW wrote: »

Think thats in relation to a housing development thats going to be built there

We need more homes to be built, as where will all the jobs live. Hence Kilbarry & Ferrybank coming online. The homes also produce more income for councils (let's say 4,500 homes @ 5k income per home) of 22m for both Councils, and the homes also generate about 45k tax per home, or 202m to the exchequer.

Which funds North Quays, Airport, University & Cathlab.

And that's before North Quays income of 144m a year to exchequer kicks in. Or 2bn to the economy to fund our communities growth. Or, pay for a children's hospital.

So that is why the infrastructure unlocks the North Quays, which is simply a catalyst for jobs & other aspects in the South East, as that then unlocks jobs which unlocks spend in the city & housing.

For all those who still think I'm a) not real and b) not with the company come to the Chamber Expo tomorrow. Ask me questions. Pick holes. Raise concerns.

There are some superb thoughts & ideas on this forum; time to put them into action.

jelutong

Hard to make sense of that .

Bards

robcass78 wrote: »

IanVW wrote: »

Think thats in relation to a housing development thats going to be built there

We need more homes to be built, as where will all the jobs live. Hence Kilbarry & Ferrybank coming online. The homes also produce more income for councils (let's say 4,500 homes @ 5k income per home) of 22m for both Councils, and the homes also generate about 45k tax per home, or 202m to the exchequer.

Which funds North Quays, Airport, University & Cathlab.

And that's before North Quays income of 144m a year to exchequer kicks in. Or 2bn to the economy to fund our communities growth. Or, pay for a children's hospital.

So that is why the infrastructure unlocks the North Quays, which is simply a catalyst for jobs & other aspects in the South East, as that then unlocks jobs which unlocks spend in the city & housing.

For all those who still think I'm a) not real and b) not with the company come to the Chamber Expo tomorrow. Ask me questions. Pick holes. Raise concerns.

There are some superb thoughts & ideas on this forum; time to put them into action.

unfortunately Rob.. The Govt only sees the S. E as a cash cow with very little in investment coming back

fricatus

robcass78 wrote: »

For all those who still think I'm a) not real and b) not with the company come to the Chamber Expo tomorrow. Ask me questions. Pick holes. Raise concerns.

Rob, is that the event in the Jaguar showrooms? It says on the website that it’s €125 - is that just the fee to have a stand there, or is it a closed event? Like can I just turn up off the street and wander in?

If not, have you plans to do any public Q&A sessions or anything like that?

Johnboy1951

fricatus wrote: »

Rob, is that the event in the Jaguar showrooms? It says on the website that it’s €125 - is that just the fee to have a stand there, or is it a closed event? Like can I just turn up off the street and wander in?

If not, have you plans to do any public Q&A sessions or anything like that?

We can always listen to WLR to hear a little about it I guess.

€125 + VodkaAndTonic is a bit steep for casual visitors

https://www.waterfordchamber.ie/events/upcoming-events

mickmackmcgoo

fricatus wrote:

Rob, is that the event in the Jaguar showrooms? It says on the website that it’s €125 - is that just the fee to have a stand there, or is it a closed event? Like can I just turn up off the street and wander in?

The business expo is open to members and non members of the chamber. The 125 is the price for an exhibition stand for members so I see no problem with anyone wandering in.

Johnboy1951

mickmackmcgoo wrote: »

The business expo is open to members and non members of the chamber. The 125 is the price for an exhibition stand for members so I see no problem with anyone wandering in.

Ah, that makes more sense

hardybuck

Bards wrote: »

unfortunately Rob.. The Govt only sees the S. E as a cash cow with very little in investment coming back

This statement would apply to Dublin, who's population pays about 35% of all income tax in the state, before you even look at what businesses raise.

hardybuck

robcass78 wrote: »

We need more homes to be built, as where will all the jobs live. Hence Kilbarry & Ferrybank coming online. The homes also produce more income for councils (let's say 4,500 homes @ 5k income per home) of 22m for both Councils, and the homes also generate about 45k tax per home, or 202m to the exchequer.

Which funds North Quays, Airport, University & Cathlab.

And that's before North Quays income of 144m a year to exchequer kicks in. Or 2bn to the economy to fund our communities growth. Or, pay for a children's hospital.

So that is why the infrastructure unlocks the North Quays, which is simply a catalyst for jobs & other aspects in the South East, as that then unlocks jobs which unlocks spend in the city & housing.

For all those who still think I'm a) not real and b) not with the company come to the Chamber Expo tomorrow. Ask me questions. Pick holes. Raise concerns.

There are some superb thoughts & ideas on this forum; time to put them into action.

Could you please set out the breakdown for your estimate of €144m per year? Or the €2bn?

Also, 4,500 homes would equate to about 25% of all new builds constructed in the Ireland last year. Who would live in these, and over what time period would they be built? Would they distort the property market in Waterford and bring people back into negative equity?

Gavlor

hardybuck wrote: »

This statement would apply to Dublin, who's population pays about 35% of all income tax in the state, before you even look at what businesses raise.

This statement isn’t taking into consideration the government infrastructure spend in Dublin, before you take into account social welfare etc.

hardybuck

Gavlor wrote: »

This statement isn’t taking into consideration the government infrastructure spend in Dublin, before you take into account social welfare etc.

This is just personal taxes. The proportion of personal taxes raised in Dublin is quite a bit higher than it's proportion of the population.

If you added all the business and tourism in Dublin it's significantly higher again, particularly given the nation's reliance on the bouyant corporation tax revenue at present

But rather than to argue and get off track regarding the above, we should be quite clear that to describe Waterford as a cash cow for the State is utterly false.

Bards

hardybuck wrote: »

Gavlor wrote: »

This statement isn’t taking into consideration the government infrastructure spend in Dublin, before you take into account social welfare etc.

This is just personal taxes. The proportion of personal taxes raised in Dublin is quite a bit higher than it's proportion of the population.

If you added all the business and tourism in Dublin it's significantly higher again, particularly given the nation's reliance on the bouyant corporation tax revenue at present

But rather than to argue and get off track regarding the above, we should be quite clear that to describe Waterford as a cash cow for the State is utterly false.

The Govt takes in more than it spends on the S. E