Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Ray Bloody Purchase

Plomber wrote: »

...had the pleasure of negotiating this this morning. All it effectively does is reduce filtering space for bikes and motorbikes between lane one and two forcing both out into the path of oncoming traffic. It has all the hallmarks of a desktop exercise that started with the premise that the bus lane is used bus those authorised to use it only. This section of road ( between Harolds X park & the Canal) is one where cyclists are often the majority in rush hour but is designed for Busses & Cars, thick.

To add insult whoever was doing the work had a 'Roadworks end' sign on a cone in the cycle lane on the far side of the canal which wasn't visible until almost on it. Just what you need to wake up on a cold wet icy morning.

I drove by that yesterday, i bottled cycling in today because the road on the estate was a bit dodgy.

It does look like all it's going to do is jam cyclists alongside whatever other vehicle is using that stretch.

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Plomber wrote: »

...had the pleasure of negotiating this this morning. All it effectively does is reduce filtering space for bikes and motorbikes between lane one and two forcing both out into the path of oncoming traffic. It has all the hallmarks of a desktop exercise that started with the premise that the bus lane is used bus those authorised to use it only. This section of road ( between Harolds X park & the Canal) is one where cyclists are often the majority in rush hour but is designed for Busses & Cars, thick.

To add insult whoever was doing the work had a 'Roadworks end' sign on a cone in the cycle lane on the far side of the canal which wasn't visible until almost on it. Just what you need to wake up on a cold wet icy morning.

I came in via rathmines today so didnt see this - is it the full length of the bus lane from the park to the bridge?

Ray Bloody Purchase

I think it goes from the bus shelter to the start of the yellow box where traffic is suppose to filter into the lane on the left.

Lambay island

Plomber wrote: »

...had the pleasure of negotiating this this morning. All it effectively does is reduce filtering space for bikes and motorbikes between lane one and two forcing both out into the path of oncoming traffic. It has all the hallmarks of a desktop exercise that started with the premise that the bus lane is used bus those authorised to use it only. This section of road ( between Harolds X park & the Canal) is one where cyclists are often the majority in rush hour but is designed for Busses & Cars, thick.

To add insult whoever was doing the work had a 'Roadworks end' sign on a cone in the cycle lane on the far side of the canal which wasn't visible until almost on it. Just what you need to wake up on a cold wet icy morning.

What time did you go past as i moved it off cycle path for that exact reason?

Ray Bloody Purchase

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

I think it goes from the bus shelter to the start of the yellow box where traffic is suppose to filter into the lane on the left.

From my sample size of one, it seemed to be doing the job this morning.

ED E

“We crashed into a cyclist and we could feel the bus going over the bike,” Ms McGivney told The Irish Times. “We thought there was someone under the bus so everyone started screaming.”

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The cyclist hit by the bus was taken to hospital as a precaution but suffered only minor injuries.

Whoever you are RIP to your wheeled steed and I hope you're not too traumatised to get back on the road again in future. About as near death as one gets.

Effects

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

From my sample size of one, it seemed to be doing the job this morning.

Is it going to affect traffic much? How much space is there at the top?
If there's too many right turning cars will it leave much of a tailback of cars that can't move left?

TheChizler

ED E wrote: »

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Whoever you are RIP to your wheeled steed and I hope you're not too traumatised to get back on the road again in future. About as near death as one gets.

Glad everyone's on the path to recovery.

Is this another example of a canned response from Dublin Bus?

A spokeswoman for Dublin Bus said all drivers were trained in “comprehensive procedures” for dealing with these types of emergency situations.

All vehicles are equipped with a radio which connects with the Dublin Bus central control centre who in turn contact the emergency services, she said.

Trained to make a call on the radio while they're unconscious?

average_runner

TheChizler wrote: »

Glad everyone's on the path to recovery.

Is this another example of a canned response from Dublin Bus?



Trained to make a call on the radio while they're unconscious?

The nurse that stopped the bus and saved the man's life is a hero and I hope she gets recongnised for that.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Effects wrote: »

Is it going to affect traffic much? How much space is there at the top?
If there's too many right turning cars will it leave much of a tailback of cars that can't move left?

Space for cyclists? Strictly speaking from this morning, it made it easier to approach the junction at the lights and there was a nice orderly queue.

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Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Space for cyclists? Strictly speaking from this morning, it made it easier to approach the junction at the lights and there was a nice orderly queue.

They’ve also changed the light sequence to give the green right arrow towards canal before the outbound traffic get a green. Hopefully it helps.

The bollards should make it easier for cars to merge at the correct point. As it stood, it was very difficult to stay in the correct lane when driving and merge at the merge point, due to the influx of cars milling down the bus lane. Lots of hesitation of “is he letting me go or not” caused delays here and is what makes people follow the leader into the bus lane early.

VW 1

Cycled into another cyclist this morning. Was coming up kevin street from the DIT and crossing Wexford Street.

I had a green light but the cars were not crossing the junction as they would have blocked the yellow box to do so. Van on the right so I couldn't see if any pedestrians were crossing on red. Slowed right down, two pedestrians crossing saw me and stopped, a cyclist also coming across the pedestrian crossing (not on the road) who I'm certain saw me, but kept coming across the junction and my front wheel hit his.

So so stupid and unavoidable, no damage done, I was going slow enough that i could just step down to stop as I had hit the brakes hard enough when I realised he wasn't stopping. You'd wonder why anyone would cross without looking, it could just as easily have been a car travelling at a much faster pace in that inside lane.

average_runner

VW 1 wrote: »

Cycled into another cyclist this morning. Was coming up kevin street from the DIT and crossing Wexford Street.

I had a green light but the cars were not crossing the junction as they would have blocked the yellow box to do so. Van on the right so I couldn't see if any pedestrians were crossing on red. Slowed right down, two pedestrians crossing saw me and stopped, a cyclist also coming across the pedestrian crossing (not on the road) who I'm certain saw me, but kept coming across the junction and my front wheel hit his.

So so stupid and unavoidable, no damage done, I was going slow enough that i could just step down to stop as I had hit the brakes hard enough when I realised he wasn't stopping. You'd wonder why anyone would cross without looking, it could just as easily have been a car travelling at a much faster pace in that inside lane.

That's very common around there. Saw two cyclists squaring up to each other there a few months ago, one went through a red light and hit another cyclist.

Budawanny

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

From my sample size of one, it seemed to be doing the job this morning.

Is that where the wands start ? or is it a bit sooner? looks very promising.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Budawanny wrote: »

Is that where the wands start ? or is it a bit sooner? looks very promising.

It's where it starts. There's a side road there to the left.

Budawanny

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

It's where it starts. There's a side road there to the left.

thanks

neris

For anyone cycling off the malahide road or around portmarnock. Driving home yesterday evening through balgriffin on way to portmarnock sitting 2 cars back behind a white Merc just past the cemetery off the malahide road the mercs right up behind a lad on a bike going mad beeping at him even though there was no traffic coming other way to overtake. She eventually overtakes and we continue on till we get up to Drumnigh woods and another cyclist. Same **** again right up behind him going mad on the horn forcing him into the curb in fright. The guy was rightfully shaking in shock and anger. Was a bit shocked myself. Need to check my dashcam and see if I got the reg and report her.

Alanstrainor

Had a few bad ones today. In Portmarnock just coming down Carrickhill road which is a quiet residential road really, no on coming traffic and this guy comes right up close behind me and leans on the horn. Then proceeds to pass me very slowly and close while leaning on the horn. Keeping in mind this is a wide road with no oncoming traffic. I lost the rag a bit and started f'ing and blinding at him, he pulled in front and swerved in and braked. But I continued passed. He then overtook properly and was gone.

The other was on the coast road between Portmarnock and Baldoyle (my favourite :P) A taxi driver with no care in the world proceeds to overtake me close with oncoming traffic. It wasn't the closest of passes, but there was oncoming traffic which he forced to a complete stop on the other side. Madness.

neris

1st one wasn't a white Merc? That baldoyle road can be hit and miss. Thankfully I've never had any issues cycling it but have had idiots in cars over taking into my side when driving. It's a road where you have to hold your own either on a bike or in a car

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Had a few bad ones today. In Portmarnock just coming down Carrickhill road which is a quiet residential road really, no on coming traffic and this guy comes right up close behind me and leans on the horn. Then proceeds to pass me very slowly and close while leaning on the horn. Keeping in mind this is a wide road with no oncoming traffic. I lost the rag a bit and started f'ing and blinding at him, he pulled in front and swerved in and braked. But I continued passed. He then overtook properly and was gone.

The other was on the coast road between Portmarnock and Baldoyle (my favourite :P) A taxi driver with no care in the world proceeds to overtake me close with oncoming traffic. It wasn't the closest of passes, but there was oncoming traffic which he forced to a complete stop on the other side. Madness.

Alanstrainor

neris wrote: »

1st one wasn't a white Merc? That baldoyle road can be hit and miss. Thankfully I've never had any issues cycling it but have had idiots in cars over taking into my side when driving. It's a road where you have to hold your own either on a bike or in a car

Unfortunately not! Should have said in the original post. An old beat up Renault Scenic.

Thargor

ED E wrote: »

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Whoever you are RIP to your wheeled steed and I hope you're not too traumatised to get back on the road again in future. About as near death as one gets.

TheChizler wrote: »

Glad everyone's on the path to recovery.

Is this another example of a canned response from Dublin Bus?



Trained to make a call on the radio while they're unconscious?

average_runner wrote: »

The nurse that stopped the bus and saved the man's life is a hero and I hope she gets recongnised for that.

Where are ye getting this? Was a post deleted?

CramCycle

Thargor wrote: »

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Looks like Twitter talk

ED E

Thargor wrote: »

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Irish Times

elric

Link to the story:
Quick-thinking nurse saves unconscious Dublin Bus driver

Type 17

Thargor wrote: »

Where are ye getting this? Was a post deleted?

ED E wrote: »

Irish Times

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/quick-thinking-nurse-saves-unconscious-dublin-bus-driver-1.3814832

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Christchurch this morning, 3 cars through red from Thomas Street. I must be getting immune to it, because the first two I thought "weren't too bad", but the last was quite blatant as there were cyclists already half way across the junction.

He continues on towards Lord Edward Street, pedestrian lights go red, our hero plows on through, as a pedestrian is stepping into the road waving his arms. Good stuff. I catch up to him at the next lights and he's got his head buried in his phone, texting. Doesn't spot me, but his passenger sees me looking and gives me the two fingers, window comes down, with the usual "**** off". I hadn't even said anything, hadn't actually planned on saying anything, but when I mentioned he had just broken two red lights, I get "**** off, I broke one red light". Silly me, eh?

The kicker? There's a Garda car behind him the whole time. The frustrating reality? They saw it all, and when I motion to them about the phone, I get glared at by the Gardai, who continue on, uninterested. On the plus side, they did let me move out to go around the truck and van parked in cycle lane on double yellows though, which was nice of them.

The rest of the commute had me seriously considering whether I should give up cycling. It's becoming beyond frustrating.

hesker

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The kicker? There's a Garda car behind him the whole time.

Shame on you for not realising that they are on much more serious business than preventing behaviours that will save lives.

Not sure if this is the right thread but there was a man badly injured on the Sandford Road at 8:25am this morning. He was tall, had dark black hair, was wearing a helmet and looked like he was in his late 30s. He was unconscious on the ground for a long time. If anybody knows the man, the lollipop lady right there (at the junction of Belmont Avenue) seems to have seen everything as she was telling a lady next to me in detail. I really hope he will be OK.

Lambay island

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure if this is the right thread but there was a man badly injured on the Sandford Road at 8:25am this morning. He was tall, had dark black hair, was wearing a helmet and looked like he was in his late 30s. He was unconscious on the ground for a long time. If anybody knows the man, the lollipop lady right there (at the junction of Belmont Avenue) seems to have seen everything as she was telling a lady next to me in detail. I really hope he will be OK.

Fingers crossed

Ray Bloody Purchase

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Christchurch this morning, 3 cars through red from Thomas Street. I must be getting immune to it, because the first two I thought "weren't too bad", but the last was quite blatant as there were cyclists already half way across the junction.

He continues on towards Lord Edward Street, pedestrian lights go red, our hero plows on through, as a pedestrian is stepping into the road waving his arms. Good stuff. I catch up to him at the next lights and he's got his head buried in his phone, texting. Doesn't spot me, but his passenger sees me looking and gives me the two fingers, window comes down, with the usual "**** off". I hadn't even said anything, hadn't actually planned on saying anything, but when I mentioned he had just broken two red lights, I get "**** off, I broke one red light". Silly me, eh?

The kicker? There's a Garda car behind him the whole time. The frustrating reality? They saw it all, and when I motion to them about the phone, I get glared at by the Gardai, who continue on, uninterested. On the plus side, they did let me move out to go around the truck and van parked in cycle lane on double yellows though, which was nice of them.

The rest of the commute had me seriously considering whether I should give up cycling. It's becoming beyond frustrating.

Well used to the light breaking there at Christ Church. They usually do it at speed too because they see the amber well in advance and put the foot down to go through the red.

Someone who is not familiar with the sequence or rather the regular RLJ there will be killed soon.

rubadub

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

Someone who is not familiar with the sequence or rather the regular RLJ there will be killed soon.

+1, what can be very dangerous is when you get the very unusual occurance of all cars stopping as they should, and then a single one breaking a red well after everyone else has stopped.

Saw that this morning on the worst set of lights I come across. A woman about to cross was stunned, jaw dropped in disbelief. A few times I have been on the verge of shouting out to pedestrians to stay put.

NamelessPhil

First time poster on this thread.

A local one for me this morning. I was cycling from Ballinteer to Nutgrove along Stonemason's Way this morning at around 08:45. I'd just cycled with my own child to her school and I was well aware that the Gaelscoil on Stonemason's Way was due to start.

There is an on road cycle track with a very broken surface on the road. Traffic was busy and I was keeping pace with the line of traffic beside me. Just after the roundabout, the council have created a line of parking spaces on the left of the road opposite the school and just before the next traffic lights.

Most of the spaces were occupied and I was watching for car doors opening. Suddenly my peripheral vision picks up an indicator from the car right beside me. The car drives across me and into a space. I had to pull the brakes hard and slide into the spot behind the car to avoid a collision.

I stop and ride up to the driver's window and knock on it. The look of total and utter surprise on the driver's face confirms that she did not see me or expect to see me. I get her to roll down the window and tell her she nearly knocked me down. She is apologetic, I don't swear and I'm quite calm, just reiterate that she did not look or check. As I'm talking to her, a taxi that had been just behind us pulls up and the driver winds down the window and says to the driver, " You nearly killed her!" You know things are bad when a taxi driver takes your side.

The driver was still apologetic and claimed that she'd been having a moment with her child. I could see a toddler and a school age child in the back. I wished both of us a better day and cycled off.

There could have been a far worse outcome and her kids (and mine) would have had a far more traumatic day.

hesker

Had a very similar experience a while back with a driver pulling into a bus/cycle lane to drop off a passenger. She was initially apologetic but at the same time slightly annoyed at her dangerous behaviour being pointed out to her. I was, like you, very polite in my approach.

Seanachai

I witnessed a cyclist being hit by a car door in Fairview yesterday evening around 5.20. The guy may have actually done it deliberately, once the cyclist got over the shock he chased after them up the Malahide road.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Seanachai wrote: »

I witnessed a cyclist being hit by a car door in Fairview yesterday evening around 5.20. The guy may have actually done it deliberately, once the cyclist got over the shock he chased after them up the Malahide road.

Report it to the Gardai. The person that was struck may have already reported it. You could corroborate his story (if the Gardai decide to act).

Breezer

Seanachai wrote: »

I witnessed a cyclist being hit by a car door in Fairview yesterday evening around 5.20. The guy may have actually done it deliberately, once the cyclist got over the shock he chased after them up the Malahide road.

They doored someone and drove off??

I’d a nasty MGIF/close pass yesterday evening approaching Doyle’s Corner in Phibsborough heading towards town. Fella in a big estate passes me within about a foot revving his engine, before turning left to head down towards the Mater. As he’s turning the corner I’m going straight through the junction on his outside so he literally saved no time. There may have been some expletives used. It’s the first one I’ve had in months.

Landog69

Seanachai wrote: »

I witnessed a cyclist being hit by a car door in Fairview yesterday evening around 5.20. The guy may have actually done it deliberately, once the cyclist got over the shock he chased after them up the Malahide road.

Hey, think this might have been me. It was a taxi with some young lad driving and his 2 mates. Didnt look like it was their taxi. The drove up the Howth road though, so if the incident you witnessed was up Malahide road then it was a separate incident.
I reported to Garda

Budawanny

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

From my sample size of one, it seemed to be doing the job this morning.

Unfortunately the novelty has worn off. the entire bus lane was full of cars this morning including behind the flexi bollards.

Fighting Tao

Budawanny wrote: »

Unfortunately the novelty has worn off. the entire bus lane was full of cars this morning including behind the flexi bollards.

There's only one solution to prevent selfish people in cars using bus lanes. Bollards that retract when buses approach.

Greentree_uk

Fighting Tao wrote: »

There's only one solution to prevent selfish people in cars using bus lanes. Bollards that retract when buses approach.

great right up until someone crashes into them then I presume the street is blocked for days while they fix it?

TheChizler

Worth it for the entertainment factor alone

Fighting Tao

Greentree_uk wrote: »

great right up until someone crashes into them then I presume the street is blocked for days while they fix it?

I think they are sturdy and reset after a collision occurs. In this day and age, I’m sure sensors can be added to alert that. A collision occurred and the local authority notified that a vehicle may need to be removed.

I think people would learn quick enough that there is no point in going into bus lanes as they won’t get very far and so there won’t be many collisions after the first few weeks.

Ray Bloody Purchase

Budawanny wrote: »

Unfortunately the novelty has worn off. the entire bus lane was full of cars this morning including behind the flexi bollards.

Yeah, it'll be hit or miss for a while and then people will realise they can take the piss and normal service will resume. :mad:

Duckjob

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I think they are sturdy and reset after a collision occurs. In this day and age, I’m sure sensors can be added to alert that. A collision occurred and the local authority notified that a vehicle may need to be removed.

I think people would learn quick enough that there is no point in going into bus lanes as they won’t get very far and so there won’t be many collisions after the first few weeks.

I think they're a great idea and would love to see them everywhere. Levi a minimum €200 charge to reset it after them + make them legally responsible for any additional damage caused to the system. Also make it law that CCTV footage of their dickish driving is automatically forwarded to their insurance company so that they can know what sort of knob they're insuring.

If people got hit with all that, + bill for maybe a grand or over to fix up their own car, you would see driver behaviour improve very very quickly.

Won't happen in Irela-la-land of course. The land of no consequences.

check_six

Tracking around a big roundabout the other day. Going past one entrance with three lanes feeding the roundabout. One of the motorists decides to go for it right in front of me. I dodge him successfully, but the heart in mouth moment when you think that the other two lanes will be triggered into launching forward and into me was not nice.

However, the adventures did not end there. Coming off at the next exit I see that the pedestrian crossing just after the exit is showing a red. I start to slow and then notice that it looks like I am in the wrong lane as a car is coming right at me from the other direction! I process what I am seeing and realise that I'm in the right place, but some gobdaw has decided to jump a queue of traffic by driving the wrong way down the road and right through a red light (with pedestrians crossing, I might add). All this with the aim of muscling back into the right side of the road at the entrance to the roundabout! A quick swerve saw me out of harm's way, but if I had been more distracted by the roundabout incident, I would have been on this gobsheen's bonnet.

check_six

Duckjob wrote: »

If people got hit with all that, + bill for maybe a grand or over to fix up their own car, you would see driver behaviour improve very very quickly.

Won't happen in Irela-la-land of course. The land of no consequences.

Yeah. In before the mountain of whiplash claims...

check_six

check_six wrote: »

Yeah. In before the mountain of whiplash claims...

Yeah was thinking same, I could see cases before the courts and people succeeding in getting a pay out having hit these.

Seth Brundle

Not a near miss but I had a dickhead aul fella in a silver merc tailing me as I cycled (fairly quickly especially with a downhill stretch there) along the bus lane from Leixlip (the three lanes of the dual carriageway were moving slowly). When I turned back he was pointing to the left which I assumed meant that he was turning down the slip road to Lucan West/Spa hotel area.
Nope - he stayed in the bus lane keeping close behind me.
I looked back again and he was still pointing to the left. He eventually got a gap in lane 1 and managed to overtake me.

Three hours later, it is only just after occurring to me that he was pointing to the crappy cycle path as if I was the one in the wrong.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Not a near miss but I had a dickhead aul fella in a silver merc tailing me as I cycled (fairly quickly especially with a downhill stretch there) along the bus lane from Leixlip (the three lanes of the dual carriageway were moving slowly). When I turned back he was pointing to the left which I assumed meant that he was turning down the slip road to Lucan West/Spa hotel area.
Nope - he stayed in the bus lane keeping close behind me.
I looked back again and he was still pointing to the left. He eventually got a gap in lane 1 and managed to overtake me.

Three hours later, it is only just after occurring to me that he was pointing to the crappy cycle path as if I was the one in the wrong.

Without having any idea of the condition of the cycle path "Ignorant cyclist blocks traffic as they refuse to use the perfectly fine cycle path... yada yada yada"...

Seth Brundle

Charli Loose Snowball wrote: »

Without having any idea of the condition of the cycle path "Ignorant cyclist blocks traffic as they refuse to use the perfectly fine cycle path... yada yada yada"...

or rather, "Ignorant cyclist blocks traffic from illegally using buslane as they refuse to use the perfectly fine cycle path... yada yada yada" :cool: