TV licence soon required for PCs, laptops, and tablets?

Permabear

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Tigger

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what tablet has a screen size over 11 inches?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tablet_PC_dimensions_and_case_sizes

it mentions ipads spefically but they wouldnt acually count

s4uv3

What tablet? I don't own a tablet...

Jack the Stripper

Mine is 10 inches.

osarusan

They should deal with this first:

TV licence evasion is already extremely high with over €40m not collected every year.

This will just be another charge that people won't pay.

Kimbot

This plan has been in the pipeline for years.... the broadcasting licence

Kimbot

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

Mine is 10 inches.

Bragging again eh :pac:

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jacksie66

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Permabear

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This will only affect those that don't already pay their TV licence.

Tigger

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that one of those hybrid yokes , hardly common, i doubt you'll find one person ho has a 12.9 pro but lives in a house that dosent have a tv already

as the previous poster said make everyone pay who has a tv and the problem goes way

Sin City

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This will only affect those that don't already pay their TV licence.

If they dont pay their tv licence I doubt this will affect them either

Tigger

Sin City wrote: »

If they dont pay their tv licence I doubt this will affect them either

lol
good point

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Mint Sauce

Sin City wrote: »

If they dont pay their tv licence I doubt this will affect them either

Basically your details will probably be passed on at point of purchase. Same as if you buy a TV in the North or GB.

Mint Sauce

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It will eventually pull in every household in the country, weather you watch TV, listen to the radio, access the Internet. Although knowing are government, rather that make it cheaper than the TV licence, and still bring in more than the current set up, it will probably be more expensive.

Kintarō Hattori

Sin City wrote: »

If they dont pay their tv licence I doubt this will affect them either

There are people who have screens and no television subscriptions. I know if I could convince my missus we'd drop Sky and watch Netflix, Channel 4, BBC etc online.
I absolutely resent having to pay the television licence. I don't listen to any RTE stations on the radio and I never, yes never watch RTE 1 or 2. I'm paying for something I don't want, don't use and never will use.

cnocbui

Apart from the sheer stupidity of the whole TV license nonsense, I would have thought it would be easier to apply to Netflix subscriptions and similar services than to try and target laptops and devices.

jonon9

The government must think the internet is free. We're already paying to access the net plus whatever subscriptions.

The_Valeyard

Mint Sauce wrote: »

It will eventually pull in every household in the country, weather you watch TV, listen to the radio, access the Internet. Although knowing are government, rather that make it cheaper than the TV licence, and still bring in more than the current set up, it will probably be more expensive.

Probably the next Irish water fecked up approach.

I guess this would also include any business with desktop computers but no TV.

jimbobaloobob

using the rte player online should require your license number that way their fees are covering their services.

Silane

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using the rte player online should require your license number that way their fees are covering their services.

They should just make the whole thing subscription based like sky, let the people who want it pay for it and then you can access the online services too.

MilesMorales1

And they want to double the licence fee at the same time? Good luck with that.

Sin City

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

There are people who have screens and no television subscriptions. I know if I could convince my missus we'd drop Sky and watch Netflix, Channel 4, BBC etc online.
I absolutely resent having to pay the television licence. I don't listen to any RTE stations on the radio and I never, yes never watch RTE 1 or 2. I'm paying for something I don't want, don't use and never will use.

I would imagine the only way they might get a full complicence is if they get on to the tv/or isp and lable them with the fee to pass it onto their customers

So even if the customer has internet only they can still collect the licence fee

Sin City

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Basically your details will probably be passed on at point of purchase. Same as if you buy a TV in the North or GB.

But only if your screen size is under 11 inches

Sin City

Silane wrote: »

They should just make the whole thing subscription based like sky, let the people who want it pay for it and then you can access the online services too.

They want to increase revenue
not loose it

K.Flyer

Tigger wrote: »

that one of those hybrid yokes , hardly common, i doubt you'll find one person ho has a 12.9 pro but lives in a house that dosent have a tv already

as the previous poster said make everyone pay who has a tv and the problem goes way

They haven't been able to make everyone pay for a licence up to now, what are they going to do that changes that.
A lot of the younger generation have no interest in typical tv channels and the like. We haven't had a T.V. station subscription service or any aerial to receive channels for years, just not interested. A load of ballcocks if you ask me.

As it says here, they will have fun trying to prove and enforce it.


Whether you've a telly or not, it will be fascinating to watch them trying to enforce this...

Silane

The people at RTE and in government genuinely seem to struggle to believe that a lot of us don't use any RTE services at all. If they made it a subscription service and only charged E20 a year I wouldn't pay it, I don't need it and don't want it at any price.

Dravokivich

Tigger wrote: »

that one of those hybrid yokes , hardly common, i doubt you'll find one person ho has a 12.9 pro but lives in a house that dosent have a tv already

as the previous poster said make everyone pay who has a tv and the problem goes way

I've known plenty of people with tv's who didn't use'em to watch tv. Ideally you should only need the tv/broadcast license if you intend to use those services.

gramar

What happens if in a public place on your 11+ inch tablet? Can you be asked to prove you have a license there and then?
I can imagine license inspectors hanging around coffee houses like vultures.

Silane

gramar wrote: »

What happens if in a public place on your 11+ inch tablet? Can you be asked to prove you have a license there and then?
I can imagine license inspectors hanging around coffee houses like vultures.

I highly doubt they'd have the power to detain even if they tried that. The conversation would go something like this.

Inspector: I see you're using a tablet, do you have a license for that?
Me: Nope, goodbye.

gramar

Dravokivich wrote: »

I've known plenty of people with tv's who didn't use'em to watch tv. Ideally you should only need the tv/broadcast license if you intend to use those services.

That makes perfect sense but unfortunately the law makes no sense.
I never got the fuss about water charges. The TV/broadcasting license
is much more worth potesting about.

jester77

It's been that way for years where I live. Mobile phones also count here towards the fee, strange omission that they are not included as they are capable of streaming content.

murpho999

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

And they want to double the licence fee at the same time? Good luck with that.

No,they don't won't to double the licence fee, the DG was misquoted.

Either way a licence fee on tablets over a certain size is totally unenforceable.

They need to come up with a new way of collecting this revenue.

VinLieger

Totally against this, RTE needs to be dissolved or told to stand on its own self crippled legs and not propped up by the tax payers

Pac1Man

I would go to war over this.

Edit: Actually I wouldn't. It only applies to non licence payers.

donegaLroad

I could happily live without a tablet or laptop, and just use my smart phone hooked up to a screen.

Billy86

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This will only affect those that don't already pay their TV licence.

Including those that don't own a TV and use laptops, tablets etc for Netflix and the likes because they would rather spend €88 for a much, much, much, much better service and package than nearly double that for absolute garbage that is RTE, soon apparently to be about 4 times that.

If it does double, which would you choose given both will be around the same price:
1. Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, and all Sky Sports channels (or another €80-100 package with someone else if sports aren't your thing) - edit: via Sky Mobile.
2. RTE 1 & 2, TV3 & TG4.



They don't make the new/domestic content to justify themselves and just spend the tax payers money to outbid competitors for foreign shows, which is a disgrace. If they made a proper effort of following the BBC model, I wouldn't really mind paying as I would at least be contributing towards helping young Irish people in the industry get a chance and lots of domestic content to be made. But as we all know, that's not even close to the case.

Don't mean to go off on one at you - but it really bothers me how RTE go about using the taxpayers money.

Knasher

They are also planing on renaming RTE to Raidió Teilifís Computers Laptops and Tablets Éireann.

Sam Kade

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

using the rte player online should require your license number that way their fees are covering their services.

Silane wrote: »

They should just make the whole thing subscription based like sky, let the people who want it pay for it and then you can access the online services too.

They'd get nothing that way as nobody would watch it

Silane

Sam Kade wrote: »

They'd get nothing that way as nobody would watch it

Exactly, the point would be proven and they could wrap it up instead of wasting money.

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Billy86

Billy86 wrote: »

Including those that don't own a TV and use laptops, tablets etc for Netflix and the likes because they would rather spend €88 for a much, much, much, much better service and package than nearly double that for absolute garbage that is RTE, soon apparently to be about 4 times that.

If it does double, which would you choose given both will be around the same price:
1. Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, and all Sky Sports channels (or another €80-100 package with someone else if sports aren't your thing.
2. RTE 1 & 2, TV3 & TG4.



They don't make the new/domestic content to justify themselves and just spend the tax payers money to outbid competitors for foreign shows, which is a disgrace. If they made a proper effort of following the BBC model, I wouldn't really mind paying as I would at least be contributing towards helping young Irish people in the industry get a chance and lots of domestic content to be made. But as we all know, that's not even close to the case.

Don't mean to go off on one at you - but it really bothers me how RTE go about using the taxpayers money.

You are only saying what most people think. Nothing wrong with that! Personally, I use the TV set to listen to Newstalk radio because I can't tune my old radio in to it! Otherwise it's Sky all the way. I cannot think of one RTE programme I've willingly watched in years.

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Hans Bricks

We are witnessing the death throes of terrestrial national broadcasting in this country.

You're not relevant anymore RTE. Just fcuk off.

I can't access any news sites at the moment...[China's Firewall]

is this intended to "tax" people for owning a computer (with the monitor sizes in question)? I'm a bit confused as to how they would prove youre using your comp to watch tv.

Bob24

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is this intended to "tax" people for owning a computer (with the monitor sizes in question)? I'm a bit confused as to how they would prove youre using your comp to watch tv.

You would have to pay whether you use it to watch TV or not (in the same ways is if you have a TV only connected to a game console and not to any aerial/cable/satellite box you still have to pay simply because your device is capable of receiving TV signal).

OU812

they need to collect the tax through the electricity bill in order to make this work. They'll still have the same amount of dodgers whether they call it broadcasting fee or licence fee.

If collected through the electricity bill it automatically becomes a €26.66 charge every month whether the site using electricity has facilities or not. Even if you don't have a TV, you still have to charge your device.

mzungu

I'm sure when they rethink this, it will probably be amended so it applies to all screen sizes. All this to justify paying megabucks to presenters, some of whom would be lucky to get half their salary in another country.