Tesla Model S

Gumbo · 26-09-2020 9:20am

garo wrote: »

Sorry both. You are correct. I am drawing 7kW. Happy days. Not sure why the car was showing 16A during the day. Probably because in Eco mode I was looking at the max and it was showing16A.

So that’s one thing sorted now.
Next to check if you have dual chargers. You can only do that at a 22kw charger with a 3 phase cable.

unkel · 26-09-2020 4:13pm

Gumbo wrote: »

So that’s one thing sorted now.
Next to check if you have dual chargers. You can only do that at a 22kw charger with a 3 phase cable.

Or at a triple head on the AC 43kW with its own tethered cable

garo · 26-09-2020 6:11pm

Lol. Pretty sure mine doesn’t. I had a chance to buy one that did but passed on it. I did discover that my local Lidl has a 22kW charger (thanks PlugShare) so I need to go shopping:)

garo · 26-09-2020 11:11pm

Got a cancellation slot for VRT inspection. So chassis VIN is under the plastic trim on driver door sill? How do I take the damn thing off without breaking it? Could also be frunk under plastic trim right?
I have the documents on the list. Anything else to be aware of?

unkel · 26-09-2020 11:14pm

Yep frunk under the plastic trim. Easy to lift it off, no tools needed.

Gumbo · 26-09-2020 11:34pm

garo wrote: »

Got a cancellation slot for VRT inspection. So chassis VIN is under the plastic trim on driver door sill? How do I take the damn thing off without breaking it? Could also be frunk under plastic trim right?
I have the documents on the list. Anything else to be aware of?

Seemly late 2014 it changed from the frunk to under the drivers door trim. My car is July 2014 and it sim the frunk.

slave1 · 27-09-2020 9:20am

When I VRT’d mine yer man wanted to see the one from under drivers door trip, it snaps off easy enough, you may break a connector but no biggie, as it turns out it started bucketing rain so I gave him the VIN from the 17” screen and he was happy with that.
They may give you a VRT on the day or likely via Revenue, pay it and appeal it straight away.
When you get your VRT bill drop me a PM and I’ll take you through my appeal, I may need a favour in return as looking at solar panels in the near future.....

garo · 27-09-2020 10:40am

Thanks all will take a look now.

Just because I like to live dangerously I pressed yes on a software update two hours before I need to drive to the VRT appointment.:eek:

Slave1 thanks will PM you and feel free to reach out for Solar PV advice.

Pkiernan · 27-09-2020 10:46am

When I VRT'd my vehicle, not a Tesla, they insisted on checking the vin stamped into the frame underneath.
I was expecting this and had cleaned the frame rail in advance.

garo · 27-09-2020 11:24am

The seller gave me the full V5C. Do I detach the permanent export bit and send it on or give that to VRT people as well?

I haven't filled out anything in the V5C yet.

Gumbo · 27-09-2020 11:55am

garo wrote: »

The seller gave me the full V5C. Do I detach the permanent export bit and send it on or give that to VRT people as well?

I haven't filled out anything in the V5C yet.

Just leave it as is or you can detach it and send that portion back to the DVLA yourself. Makes no difference I believe.

Pkiernan · 27-09-2020 12:04pm

You need to full document for the VRT people.

Its an absolute nightmare if you don't have it for them.

A lot of info on the Importing from UK thread.

Pkiernan · 27-09-2020 12:05pm

garo wrote: »

The seller gave me the full V5C. Do I detach the permanent export bit and send it on or give that to VRT people as well?

I haven't filled out anything in the V5C yet.

You need to full document for the VRT people.

Its an absolute nightmare if you don't have it for them.

A lot of info on the Importing from UK thread

garo · 27-09-2020 12:42pm

Thanks yeah I read that whole thread. I have the full document. My question was whether to fill it before taking it to VRT. I didn’t. They just tore that bit off and gave it to me. Now I can fill it out and send the export but to DVLA UK.

Now onto how to get the driver door sill trim back in place.

Gumbo · 27-09-2020 1:50pm

Pkiernan wrote: »

You need to full document for the VRT people.

Its an absolute nightmare if you don't have it for them.

A lot of info on the Importing from UK thread.

True but you don’t need the detachable export portion.

garo · 27-09-2020 2:10pm

garo wrote: »

Now onto how to get the driver door sill trim back in place.

This is a bloody nightmare! Spent half an hour struggling with it but still not right.

Anyway got told they couldn’t value the car - the purchase price was sub-35k. I was told I should get a text within 10 days but could be longer as they are working from home. Fortunately I was up last night and snagged an appointment instead of waiting for the original 8th October.

daddy_boy · 27-09-2020 2:45pm

Hi, looking for some advice , have a MS 2016 , plugged in last night (late) to one of the new ESB/Tesco chargers and all i got was 2KW, I was the only one there, eventually got to speak to ESB and they said everything was fine there end. so i gave up after 15 mins and drove to coynes cross. no problem. Any thoughts why i wasn't able to pull 22KW

Gumbo · 27-09-2020 4:43pm

daddy_boy wrote: »

Hi, looking for some advice , have a MS 2016 , plugged in last night (late) to one of the new ESB/Tesco chargers and all i got was 2KW, I was the only one there, eventually got to speak to ESB and they said everything was fine there end. so i gave up after 15 mins and drove to coynes cross. no problem. Any thoughts why i wasn't able to pull 22KW

Faulty unit.
Charge setting within the car.
Cable used, did you get 22kw using the same cable at the next unit?

daddy_boy · 27-09-2020 4:54pm

Gumbo wrote: »

Faulty unit. unit?

- ESB or Car ?

Gumbo wrote: »

Charge setting within the car.

- Did not change any settings in car

Gumbo wrote: »

Cable used, did you get 22kw using the same cable at the next unit?

- It was a tethered connection

graememk · 27-09-2020 6:17pm

daddy_boy wrote: »

- It was a tethered connection

Which one? I didnt think the Tesco ones were a tethered connection.

The only tethered ESB connections is the 43kW on the triple head fast chargers.

Gumbo · 27-09-2020 7:59pm

daddy_boy wrote: »

- ESB or Car ?

- Did not change any settings in car

- It was a tethered connection

I thought the Tesco 22kw units were untethered?

unkel · 27-09-2020 9:06pm

daddy_boy wrote: »

- It was a tethered connection

I'd say you were at one of the charge points that the ESB, in their infinite wisdom, recently "upgraded" from 22kW AC to 2kW AC :rolleyes:

Yes, that was not a typo. These actually give 2kW AC, exactly what your car was telling you that you were getting. That's less than a granny cable :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Is your car converted to CCS or do you have a CHAdeMO adapter? In that case you could have charged at 44kW DC on either of those connections. Provided you were the only car at the charger and both of these were avaible (only one can be used at a time)

graememk · 27-09-2020 9:10pm

unkel wrote: »

I'd say you were at one of the charge points that the ESB, in their infinite wisdom, recently "upgraded" from 22kW AC to 2kW AC :rolleyes:

Yes, that was not a typo. These actually give 2kW AC, exactly what your car was telling you that you were getting. That's less than a granny cable :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Is your car converted to CCS or do you have a CHAdeMO adapter? In that case you could have charged at 44kW DC on either of those connections. Provided you were the only car at the charger and both of these were avaible (only one can be used at a time)

They are untethered too tho, and doesn't the model s have 3 phase charger? So would get 6 kw.

unkel · 27-09-2020 9:10pm

In other news, my car was only charging at 20kW AC today. At first I thought the grid voltage locally must be super low, but that wasn't the case. Then I spotted that the car was only giving me 30A and I couldn't turn this up to the normal 32A maximum. A quick google showed me that other people have reported this too, it might have been that the last time I AC charged (there?) the system got a bit too warm for the car's liking. I did have the loud fan come on a few times recently after AC charging alright.

Anyone else in here experience something like this?

unkel · 27-09-2020 9:13pm

graememk wrote: »

They are untethered too tho

I've never seen one, but surely at least the CCS and CHAdeMO connectors are tethered on them?

graememk wrote: »

doesn't the model s have 3 phase charger? So would get 6 kw.

Good point. All Teslas have 3 phase charging alright. The mystery remains unsolved so

graememk · 27-09-2020 9:28pm

unkel wrote: »

I've never seen one, but surely at least the CCS and CHAdeMO connectors are tethered on them?

I've only seen photos but yeah it's a type 2 socket with tethered leads for DC,

And none of them are at Tesco

Gumbo · 27-09-2020 9:53pm

unkel wrote: »

In other news, my car was only charging at 20kW AC today. At first I thought the grid voltage locally must be super low, but that wasn't the case. Then I spotted that the car was only giving me 30A and I couldn't turn this up to the normal 32A maximum. A quick google showed me that other people have reported this too, it might have been that the last time I AC charged (there?) the system got a bit too warm for the car's liking. I did have the loud fan come on a few times recently after AC charging alright.

Anyone else in here experience something like this?

Not exactly, but a month or so back I was in Lidl 22kw charger and it dropped to 20kw when a Range Rover PHEV plugged in beside me.

May be normal, just seen the numbers matched your issue.

slave1 · 27-09-2020 9:59pm

unkel wrote: »

In other news, my car was only charging at 20kW AC today. At first I thought the grid voltage locally must be super low, but that wasn't the case. Then I spotted that the car was only giving me 30A and I couldn't turn this up to the normal 32A maximum. A quick google showed me that other people have reported this too, it might have been that the last time I AC charged (there?) the system got a bit too warm for the car's liking. I did have the loud fan come on a few times recently after AC charging alright.

Anyone else in here experience something like this?

Never had the fan come on from AC charging, even when Super Charging it does not come on unless I’ve driven it a good bit immediately prior to charging.

unkel · 27-09-2020 10:19pm

Gumbo wrote: »

Not exactly, but a month or so back I was in Lidl 22kw charger and it dropped to 20kw when a Range Rover PHEV plugged in beside me.

May be normal, just seen the numbers matched your issue.

There was a Golf already charging beside me alright!

I don't think any other time I charged on a Lidl easygo any other car was plugged in. Probably mystery solved on this

daddy_boy · 28-09-2020 8:21am

unkel wrote: »

I'd say you were at one of the charge points that the ESB, in their infinite wisdom, recently "upgraded" from 22kW AC to 2kW AC :rolleyes:

Yes, that was not a typo. These actually give 2kW AC, exactly what your car was telling you that you were getting. That's less than a granny cable :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Is your car converted to CCS or do you have a CHAdeMO adapter? In that case you could have charged at 44kW DC on either of those connections. Provided you were the only car at the charger and both of these were avaible (only one can be used at a time)

Sorry should have been clearer,

Tesco was a 22kw type 2 untethered, so used my own cable and coynes cross was a 3 headed tethered 43 kw "fast" charger, and i topped up with the tethered type 2.

The car has recently had the ccs conversion done, and this was the first time i have charged on the road not using SuC, since i have had the conversion done, as i normally try and charge at home.

I did notice that when i unplugged my cable from the car that the handle was warm - not hot ( at esb 22kw), but i thought that was normally. I will try and make a detour in the next few days and try another new 22KW ESB charger and see if i get the same, I think it is going to be a matter of elimination. i will keep you posted.

Tesla Model S

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