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Mark your diaries! Pope Frank coming to Ireland - August 2018

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Those are Irish flags with the popes image on them.
    What, like a piece of toast?

    I wonder if they were normal Irish flags earlier that morning, and the image appeared miraculously as His Holiness approached?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    I think that Del Boy and Rodney added them before selling them to the faithful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,742 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Catholic Church to hold fifth national collection to pay for papal visit
    The Catholic Church in Ireland is to hold a further national collection to help defray remaining costs from the World Meeting of Families (WMoF2018) and the visit to Ireland of Pope Francis last August.

    It will take place at all Catholic Churches on the weekend of Saturday, November 10th and Sunday, November 11th.

    Spokesman for the Catholic bishops Martin Long said “the World Meeting of Families deficit is in the region of €4 million. To date €15.4 million has been raised by previous national collections and other donations.”

    The overall cost to the church of the WMoF2018 and the visit to Pope Francis was €19.4 million, he said.

    It will be the fifth such national collection by the church to help fund these events and the third this year, following one in February and another in July. The previous two national collections in connection with them took place in May 2016 and April 2017 and brought in €5 million.

    ‘Financial management’

    In a message to all priests and deacons in the diocese of Elphin, Bishop Kevin Doran said “the recent World Meeting of Families came in significantly under budget, thanks to good financial management.”

    He added however that “unfortunately, in spite of a very successful effort, there was also a shortfall in fundraising income, due in no small measure to the consistent negative coverage in the media in the final weeks of preparation.

    “Some ‘fruit’ died on the ‘trees’. The result is a deficit which has to be covered by the Irish church.”

    He continued that the Episcopal Conference (the bishops) had “decided on an additional national collection on November 10th/11th to help defray the deficit, which would otherwise fall to each diocese in proportion to its size.

    “I would ask you to support this collection to the best of your ability, as every penny that comes in will be a reduction of the amount that we will eventually have to pay from reserves.”

    Bishop Doran added that “this special collection will not replace the parish collection.”

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I read that article earlier today & nearly choked where they were blaming negative news reports.

    Only a few months before the visit the pope was forced to apologise to the Chile abuse victims after publicly attacking them. He was forced into it because it became known that he knew of the bishops guilt at the time of attacking the victims. Then we had Mary McAlese un_invited to give a talk.

    Yes the news coverage wasn't great but the above examples were current news stories and both examples were created by the church themselves.

    This is without going into other current news stories like the Tuam babies.

    Reading the way it was fazed in the paper it sounded like they were making out that the stories weren't current of factual. It sounded like they were making out that old stories were dug up deliberately to hinder the papal visit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    In a message to all priests and deacons in the diocese of Elphin, Bishop Kevin Doran said “the recent World Meeting of Families came in significantly under budget, thanks to good financial management.”

    And brilliant forward planning, like organizing an event for 500,000 to which only 130,000 can be arsed showing up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    https://www.thejournal.ie/katherine-zappone-pope-francis-funds-families-4318064-Nov2018/


    I don't think a lot of FG for the most part but I have to say I think Katherine Zappone is on the money each & every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,742 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Zappone isn't in FG.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Zappone isn't in FG.

    She might as well be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Zappone isn't in FG.


    That might explain why she didn't backup Enda Kennys lies in the Dial when Fitzgerald did causing the Dial record needing to be altered four times.


    It was her honesty that seemed out of place in FG. That explains alot


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,742 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    So just another lazy ignorant attack about something you didn't bother to inform yourself about. Tch.

    Scrap the cap!



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