MLB 2017 Regular Season Thread

jack presley · 31-08-2017 9:28pm

September call ups tomorrow. Anyone else not like this?

Fair enough, you're giving young players a chance but bullpen management goes out the window and that's one of the most intriguing things about the game.

TimRiggins · 31-08-2017 9:51pm

jack presley wrote: »

September call ups tomorrow. Anyone else not like this?

Fair enough, you're giving young players a chance but bullpen management goes out the window and that's one of the most intriguing things about the game.

Can't wait for managers to change pitcher for every single batter too :rolleyes:

jack presley · 31-08-2017 9:57pm

TimRiggins wrote: »

Can't wait for managers to change pitcher for every single batter too :rolleyes:

Meaning 4+ hour games then.

TimRiggins · 31-08-2017 9:58pm

jack presley wrote: »

Meaning 4+ hour games then.

5+ for the Yankees!

krustydoyle · 31-08-2017 10:03pm

You beat me to it!!!! ï¿¼

ShyMets · 01-09-2017 6:39am

jack presley wrote: »

Tigers actively (again!) looking to offload Verlander too. Possibly to the Astros. Bit of a de-ju feeling about this rumour though.

Verlander traded to the Astros for three prospects. Detroit will be covering a portion of his salary also

jack presley · 01-09-2017 7:26am

ShyMets wrote: »

Verlander traded to the Astros for three prospects. Detroit will be covering a portion of his salary also

https://twitter.com/nypost_mets/status/903477022709579776

Igotadose · 02-09-2017 8:28am

In other news, Pete Rose fired by Fox sports. Maybe he'll go away now from the spotlight once and for all:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/09/01/fox-sports-reportedly-has-fired-pete-rose-over-underage-sex-allegations/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.c717529e218e

And, for some rea$$$on the Mets are playing in Houston today (Saturday). Double header too. The two 1962 expansion teams having it out. Maybe Houston finally wins a WS this year. They shouldn't have much trouble with the Mets, ghods that's hard to say.

jack presley · 02-09-2017 8:43am

Igotadose wrote: »

And, for some rea$$$on the Mets are playing in Houston today (Saturday). Double header too. The two 1962 expansion teams having it out. Maybe Houston finally wins a WS this year. They shouldn't have much trouble with the Mets, ghods that's hard to say.

Stupid fact of the day: First ever double header in Minute Maid Park!

ShyMets · 02-09-2017 5:56pm

Conforto having surgery this week. Four to six months recovery time

jack presley · 02-09-2017 6:21pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Conforto having surgery this week. Four to six months recovery time

Timeframes are like dog years when announced by Mets medical staff. So when they say 4-6 months, it really means at least 9 months and more than likely out for the whole year.

jack presley · 02-09-2017 7:44pm

There's probably a insensitive and inappropriate joke in there somewhere but Harvey pitching in Houston today has been a disaster.

first inning - 37 pitches, 4 hits, 1 hbp, 4 runs.

ShyMets · 03-09-2017 6:45am

jack presley wrote: »

There's probably a insensitive and inappropriate joke in there somewhere but Harvey pitching in Houston today has been a disaster.

first inning - 37 pitches, 4 hits, 1 hbp, 4 runs.

Harvey had a stinker. Flores got hit in the face with a ball and left the game a bloody mess. The only bright spot was Jacob Rhame pitched pretty well for his big league debut

Igotadose · 03-09-2017 7:26am

ShyMets wrote: »

Harvey had a stinker. Flores got hit in the face with a ball and left the game a bloody mess. The only bright spot was Jacob Rhame pitched pretty well for his big league debut

But at least the Mets signed Nori Aoki. Perhaps some of the Blue Jay fans here can tell us whether he's got anything left. The Mets didn't go scout the latest phenom in Japan, though. Most of the rest of MLB did.

I'm still holding to my 100 loss prediction. Flores likely done now, too, broken nose that sure looked nasty. Mets minor league boosters will get their fill of Gavin Cecchini. Harvey will be back serving BP in a few days. Rest of the month is vs. the division, Cincinnati and the Cubs. They could mess up the Cub's clinching the division with a good series mid-September. Maybe the games remaining vs. the Marlins will matter to the Marlins chasing the wild card.

ShyMets · 03-09-2017 10:40am

Igotadose wrote: »

But at least the Mets signed Nori Aoki. Perhaps some of the Blue Jay fans here can tell us whether he's got anything left. The Mets didn't go scout the latest phenom in Japan, though. Most of the rest of MLB did.

I'm still holding to my 100 loss prediction. Flores likely done now, too, broken nose that sure looked nasty. Mets minor league boosters will get their fill of Gavin Cecchini. Harvey will be back serving BP in a few days. Rest of the month is vs. the division, Cincinnati and the Cubs. They could mess up the Cub's clinching the division with a good series mid-September. Maybe the games remaining vs. the Marlins will matter to the Marlins chasing the wild card.

Amazing how the season has gone. At the start of it I was confident of making the post season. Now we're talking 100 loss season. Thankfully it will soon be over.

Haven't seen much of Cecchini but what I read about him doesn't fill me with with much optimism. Still might as well call him up and take a look. Nothing to lose now.

jack presley · 03-09-2017 12:21pm

It's taken until late August/early September but at last, the Dodgers are in a bit of a slump, 1/7 in their last eight. They could just be winding down and at least it isn't happening in early October but it'll be interesting to see how long it lasts.

Igotadose · 03-09-2017 4:23pm

jack presley wrote: »

It's taken until late August/early September but at last, the Dodgers are in a bit of a slump, 1/7 in their last eight. They could just be winding down and at least it isn't happening in early October but it'll be interesting to see how long it lasts.

They just got Kershaw back. That'll help :P

jack presley · 03-09-2017 4:24pm

Igotadose wrote: »

They just got Kershaw back. That'll help :P

He pitched that one win!

ShyMets · 04-09-2017 8:52am

jack presley wrote: »

He pitched that one win!

Lost again last night. I suspect its more a case of taking the foot of the gas. They're through to the post season. No point going hell for leather in essentially meaningless games.

ShyMets · 04-09-2017 8:58am

Rosario left the game last night in the eight inning. No word yet as to why. So fingers crossed!!

Igotadose · 04-09-2017 9:50am

ShyMets wrote: »

Rosario left the game last night in the eight inning. No word yet as to why. So fingers crossed!!

Bruised right index finger. Will be out for a few games.

Swept by Houston. Ahh well.

ShyMets · 04-09-2017 11:04am

Igotadose wrote: »

Bruised right index finger. Will be out for a few games.

Swept by Houston. Ahh well.

Mets speak for half his hand is falling offðŸ˜

jack presley · 04-09-2017 5:47pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Mets speak for half his hand is falling offðŸ˜

And they have now officially gone insane

https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/09/04/new-york-mets-matt-harvey-terry-collins?utm_campaign=si-mlb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si

ShyMets · 04-09-2017 5:57pm

jack presley wrote: »

And they have now officially gone insane

https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/09/04/new-york-mets-matt-harvey-terry-collins?utm_campaign=si-mlb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si

Do I laugh. Do I cry. Do I hit the Redbreast 12

jack presley · 04-09-2017 6:01pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Do I laugh. Do I cry. Do I hit the Redbreast 12

All 3.

But don't worry, only another few weeks and then we can move on with our lives (which in my case will be getting equally frustrated as a Washington Redskins supporter!).

Igotadose · 04-09-2017 6:46pm

jack presley wrote: »

All 3.

But don't worry, only another few weeks and then we can move on with our lives (which in my case will be getting equally frustrated as a Washington Redskins supporter!).

Some of us follow the Jets. Can you imagine. This team might challenge the all-time losingest Jets team at 1-15.

Today's Mets injury report: The following Mets will have surgery in the next few days:
David Wright - Rotator Cuff
TJ Rivera - Tommy John (and he's an infielder ffs!)
Michael Conforto - Shoulder
Josh Edgin - Knee

Maybe Wright's finally done and they can go sign a 3rd baseman this offseason.

jack presley · 04-09-2017 7:11pm

Igotadose wrote: »

Today's Mets injury report: The following Mets will have surgery in the next few days:
David Wright - Rotator Cuff
TJ Rivera - Tommy John (and he's an infielder ffs!)
Michael Conforto - Shoulder
Josh Edgin - Knee.

Only 4?

There's still 6 innings of today's game left though.

jack presley · 05-09-2017 8:37am

I know they're probably in cruise mode at the moment so they're probably not too worried about the 1-9 in the last 10 but the Dodgers have been beaten by Arizona the last 4 times they've played.

And presuming the D'backs negotiate the wild card game, they'll be playing each other in the NLDS. Arizona certainly won't be afraid going into that series. Interesting couple of games coming up for these tonight and tomorrow.

05-09-2017 8:59am

Yip, the Dodgers have finally hit a very bad run. Suppose it's better to go through it now, but they need to start turning things around quick enough

boccy23 · 05-09-2017 9:03am

jack presley wrote: »

I know they're probably in cruise mode at the moment so they're probably not too worried about the 1-9 in the last 10 but the Dodgers have been beaten by Arizona the last 4 times they've played.

And presuming the D'backs negotiate the wild card game, they'll be playing each other in the NLDS. Arizona certainly won't be afraid going into that series. Interesting couple of games coming up for these tonight and tomorrow.

Only downside for the Dbacks is that Paul Goldschmidt has been sent for an MRI on his elbow.
WOuld be a huge blow if he is out.

krustydoyle · 05-09-2017 9:39am

Here's JD's 4 Homers against the Dodgers last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szf0TeB2PKY

ShyMets · 05-09-2017 9:41am

jack presley wrote: »

I know they're probably in cruise mode at the moment so they're probably not too worried about the 1-9 in the last 10 but the Dodgers have been beaten by Arizona the last 4 times they've played.

And presuming the D'backs negotiate the wild card game, they'll be playing each other in the NLDS. Arizona certainly won't be afraid going into that series. Interesting couple of games coming up for these tonight and tomorrow.

They're in a bit of a slump. But based on their form to date I expect them to be a different animal come the Post Season.

boccy23 · 05-09-2017 9:45am

ShyMets wrote: »

They're in a bit of a slump. But based on their form to date I expect them to be a different animal come the Post Season.

There are certainly precedents for teams with huge win totals in the regular season falling at the first hurdle in the postseason once the pressure is reapplied. The 1988 Mets with 100 wins and the 2001 Mariners with 116 wins are two that spring to mind.

05-09-2017 12:22pm

boccy23 wrote: »

There are certainly precedents for teams with huge win totals in the regular season falling at the first hurdle in the postseason once the pressure is reapplied. The 1988 Mets with 100 wins and the 2001 Mariners with 116 wins are two that spring to mind.

Definitely, I'd rather be a team in form, coming through the wild card, than win a division, but playing poorly in September.
Need to iron out problems over the next few weeks, and hopr to be back in form for the last two weeks of the season. 1-9 over the last 10 games is very bad

jack presley · 05-09-2017 12:31pm

I'm basing this on my dodgy memory as opposed to facts so maybe I'm not right but weren't they winning a lot of one run games earlier in the season? That might skew their record a bit as under normal circumstances, you'd lose a chunk of those games but they weren't so I'm thinking their record is a lot better than they actually are.

Now I'm not saying they should be a 70 win team but they were on pace for 110 wins at one stage weren't they?

And as said before, every team has a slump at some stage in the season and it's surprising that it's taken this long for the Dodgers to hit theirs.

And as others have said, you're better off coming into October hot as opposed to winning 95 games and being cold but the Dodgers still have a few weeks to sort themselves out.

boccy23 · 05-09-2017 12:35pm

jack presley wrote: »

I'm basing this on my dodgy memory as opposed to facts so maybe I'm not right but weren't they winning a lot of one run games earlier in the season? That might skew their record a bit as under normal circumstances, you'd lose a chunk of those games but they weren't so I'm thinking their record is a lot better than they actually are.

Now I'm not saying they should be a 70 win team but they were on pace for 110 wins at one stage weren't they?

And as said before, every team has a slump at some stage in the season and it's surprising that it's taken this long for the Dodgers to hit theirs.

And as others have said, you're better off coming into October hot as opposed to winning 95 games and being cold but the Dodgers still have a few weeks to sort themselves out.

They have a +189 run differential, first in baseball.

jack presley · 05-09-2017 12:41pm

Ah right. Well there's my theory out the window.

(And they are only 23-15 in one run games so nothing to see here. Carry on!)

ShyMets · 05-09-2017 12:53pm

boccy23 wrote: »

They have a +189 run differential, first in baseball.

I just feel that the Dodgers have too much quality and depth to loss to the Diamondbacks in the Post Season.

In saying that their remaining schedule in the regular season is tricky. Plenty of scope to drop a few series.

8-10 · 05-09-2017 5:27pm

ShyMets wrote: »

I just feel that the Dodgers have too much quality and depth to loss to the Diamondbacks in the Post Season.

Except to Robbie Ray that is. Did anyone see his performance last night? 7 and 2/3's scoreless pitched, no walks, 14 strikeouts, perfect game to the 6th inning.

What does Ray have to do to be considered an elite starting pitcher? He never seems to be mentioned in that bracket and yet he's had FOUR appearances v's the Dodgers this season with more than 10 strikeouts.....that's the best team in baseball he's nullifying.

And plated a couple of runs while at bat....he's some man

circular flexing · 05-09-2017 5:40pm

boccy23 wrote: »

There are certainly precedents for teams with huge win totals in the regular season falling at the first hurdle in the postseason once the pressure is reapplied. The 1988 Mets with 100 wins and the 2001 Mariners with 116 wins are two that spring to mind.

Just to clarify the 2001 Mariners made it to the ALCS (beat the Indians in the ALDS).

The problem with the post season is the sample size is so small, especially the Divisional Series, all it takes is a couple of pitchers to have a bad outing and you're in the hole.

Igotadose · 05-09-2017 6:11pm

boccy23 wrote: »

There are certainly precedents for teams with huge win totals in the regular season falling at the first hurdle in the postseason once the pressure is reapplied. The 1988 Mets with 100 wins and the 2001 Mariners with 116 wins are two that spring to mind.

Agh. 1988. Where's the whiskey... Mickey Hatcher...Mike Scioscia... Who? Of course there was that Hershiser guy too.. And some dude with goo on his hat in the bullpen. Dave something.

Always felt 1988 was karma for 1986.

Mets were something like 11-1 vs. the Dodgers that regular season. Shows how much getting hot at the right time, matters. None of those Dodgers ever had as good a year as they had, that year.

krustydoyle · 05-09-2017 9:42pm

So the Red Sox are in trouble for sign steeling using Apple Watches apparently

jack presley · 05-09-2017 9:51pm

krustydoyle wrote: »

So the Red Sox are in trouble for sign steeling using Apple Watches apparently

So there is a use for the Apple Watch after all.

EDIT - Nice counter claim by the Red Sox too.

TimRiggins · 06-09-2017 12:59am

Verlander debuting for the Astros tonight.

ShyMets · 06-09-2017 8:39am

TimRiggins wrote: »

Verlander debuting for the Astros tonight.

He finished with 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 7 SO.

Solid start Mr Velander

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 06-09-2017 9:26am

ShyMets wrote: »

I just feel that the Dodgers have too much quality and depth to loss to the Diamondbacks in the Post Season.

In saying that their remaining schedule in the regular season is tricky. Plenty of scope to drop a few series.

I disagree with this. The Diamondbacks are good, very good, solid hitting and they have the rotation to beat the Dodgers. You only need 3 good starters in the post season and the Diamondbacks have that and a really solid bull pen.

Also they will face the Dodgers in the first round as a Wild Card , given they are in the same division it will literally come down to who performs best on the day as they are built to play against each other.

jack presley · 06-09-2017 4:08pm

Being on the DL must make you lose your mind and make you do strange things.

https://twitter.com/cut4/status/905209918172651520

ShyMets · 06-09-2017 4:14pm

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I disagree with this. The Diamondbacks are good, very good, solid hitting and they have the rotation to beat the Dodgers. You only need 3 good starters in the post season and the Diamondbacks have that and a really solid bull pen.

Also they will face the Dodgers in the first round as a Wild Card , given they are in the same division it will literally come down to who performs best on the day as they are built to play against each other.

I don't disagree with any of that. The Diamondbacks are a good team. Much better then anticipated at the start of the season. I just think the Dodgers will have too much for them in the Post Season.

But time will tell

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 06-09-2017 4:18pm

ShyMets wrote: »

I don't disagree with any of that. The Diamondbacks are a good team. Much better then anticipated at the start of the season. I just think the Dodgers will have too much for them in the Post Season.

But time will tell

The Diamondbacks are on fire right now. Their rotation and bullpen is hot at the right time. And they have pressure hitters. The Dodgers line up is struggling big time. they need to snap out of it.

circular flexing · 06-09-2017 7:14pm

ShyMets wrote: »

I don't disagree with any of that. The Diamondbacks are a good team. Much better then anticipated at the start of the season. I just think the Dodgers will have too much for them in the Post Season.

But time will tell

The Dodgers have plenty of recent history of bottling it in the postseason.

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