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5 day tenant: I think my room was used this weekend

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  • 02-04-2017 11:12pm
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    bs2014
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭


    I'm renting a room in a house with a family. Its Monday to Friday and I pay extra to stay up this weekend. This weekend I decided to stay up but then to discover the parents are away and the children turning it into party central, I decided staying would not be good idea. Anyhow, I came back tonight to discover stuff moved around the room, a coat I had left on my bed was moved, so clearly someone either slept in or on my bed. Either way someone/people were in the room when I was not there. I have no contract or that but obviously I don't go floating around the other peoples bedroom when I'm there. I took a video of the room yesterday before I left and can see things been moved. Should I just approach the owner and say I realise people have slept in my bed when I wasn't there and I don't really like it. She will turn around and likely say they can do what they want with the room when I'm not paying for the weekend but obviously all my stuff and bed stuff were on the bed. I just think its very cheeky and want to nip it in the bud. Thanks in advance.


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    Aka Ishur
    Registered Users Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Aka Ishur


    bs2014 wrote: »
    I'm renting a room in a house with a family. Its Monday to Friday and I pay extra to stay up this weekend. This weekend I decided to stay up but then to discover the parents are away and the children turning it into party central, I decided staying would not be good idea. Anyhow, I came back tonight to discover stuff moved around the room, a coat I had left on my bed was moved, so clearly someone either slept in or on my bed. Either way someone/people were in the room when I was not there. I have no contract or that but obviously I don't go floating around the other peoples bedroom when I'm there. I took a video of the room yesterday before I left and can see things been moved. Should I just approach the owner and say I realise people have slept in my bed when I wasn't there and I don't really like it. She will turn around and likely say they can do what they want with the room when I'm not paying for the weekend but obviously all my stuff and bed stuff were on the bed. I just think its very cheeky and want to nip it in the bud. Thanks in advance.

    Do you not have a key to your room? Had you paid for the weekend in question?


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    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    If you only rent Monday to Friday then you should clear the room on a friday unless you have an alternative agreement


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    bs2014
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭bs2014


    Aka Ishur wrote: »
    Do you not have a key to your room? Had you paid for the weekend in question?

    No key on the door, I was told I wouldn't need it. Thats perhaps cuz the owner can go in every friday to turn off the radiator and then back in on a sunday to turn it back on! No I didn't pay for the night in question.


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    bs2014
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭bs2014


    athtrasna wrote: »
    If you only rent Monday to Friday then you should clear the room on a friday unless you have an alternative agreement

    My arrangement is that I leave my stuff in the room. I only take washing and whatever bits I need myself for the weekend.


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,535 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    bs2014 wrote: »
    No key on the door, I was told I wouldn't need it. Thats perhaps cuz the owner can go in every friday to turn off the radiator and then back in on a sunday to turn it back on! No I didn't pay for the night in question.

    Well if you aren't paying for the room on a full time basis then in all honesty explain how you think you have exclusive rights to it?


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    bs2014
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭bs2014


    ted1 wrote: »
    Well if you aren't paying for the room on a full time basis then in all honesty explain how you think you have exclusive rights to it?

    I don't have exclusive rights, but I don't expect people going in and moving my belongings and sleeping in or on my bed with bed linen when I'm not there. Regardless of the money side. <mod snip>


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    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Mod note

    OP we ask that posters remain civil and post constructively. Thanks


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    mojoeback
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭mojoeback


    I think it's fair to ask the parents if your room is being used by others while you are not there at weekends.

    If they say, no one can use it, then I think it;s fair to bring up subject of persons being in in your room last weekend.


    it seems to me that they will charge you extra for weekends if you stay but not let it out to others if you don't. that needs to be clarified.


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    davindub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭davindub


    Unfortunately it is correct to say that although you rent Monday - Friday, the room is available for use by the LL at the weekends.

    Obviously your stuff shouldn't be messed with but the extent of the duty of care amounts to not damaging your property rather than not moving/ using the room. Common sense would mean that bedsheets are changed etc. But they do have the legal right to use the room unless you have specifically contracted to do otherwise.

    That being said, you can obviously talk to the LL about it, the least you would expect that bed linen is changed if the room is used, also you might request a lock for the wardrobe etc. But you should leave the room clear for use by others.


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    jimd2
    Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭jimd2


    What you need to do is inform the landlord that you want a 7 day arrangement. This would remove any ambiguity. You can then get a key without accusing aNyone of A repeat of the above.


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    bs2014
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭bs2014


    jimd2 wrote: »
    What you need to do is inform the landlord that you want a 7 day arrangement. This would remove any ambiguity. You can then get a key without accusing aNyone of A repeat of the above.
    I'm paying 500e a month Monday to Friday so I'm not willing to pay another 200e a month for that privilege.


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    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    bs2014 wrote:
    I'm paying 500e a month Monday to Friday so I'm not willing to pay another 200e a month for that privilege.

    If that's the case then can you see what is illogical about what you are saying?


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    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    They are absolutely not allowed to let someone sleep using your duvet, pillow and linens. If they want to let the room at the weekend they need to provide these things. I would be repulsed if a stranger was sleeping in my bed two nights a week without changing into their own sheets.


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    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    They are absolutely not allowed to let someone sleep using your duvet, pillow and linens.

    Not allowed by who? It's not a legislative thing, the OP is a Monday to Friday licensee.

    It's not pleasant but the OP isn't paying for exclusive 7 day occupation.


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    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    athtrasna wrote: »
    Not allowed by who? It's not a legislative thing, the OP is a Monday to Friday licensee.

    It's not pleasant but the OP isn't paying for exclusive 7 day occupation.

    But he is paying to be treated with a modicum of dignity and respect. Basically wearing and dirtying his clothes while he's away isn't acceptable in my view.


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    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    OP could take his belongings with him on the days he's not prepared to pay for the room.


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    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    But he is paying to be treated with a modicum of dignity and respect. Basically wearing and dirtying his clothes while he's away isn't acceptable in my view.

    You said not allowed, now you're saying it's your opinion. Big difference.


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    Bishopsback
    Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Bishopsback


    bs2014 wrote: »
    No key on the door, I was told I wouldn't need it. Thats perhaps cuz the owner can go in every friday to turn off the radiator and then back in on a sunday to turn it back on! No I didn't pay for the night in question.

    That's not what you said in your op.
    In your op you said you paid extra to stay up this weekend.
    Which is it?


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    LionelNashe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭LionelNashe


    Sounds like the youngsters let their friends shag in your room. The parents probably wouldn't be too happy to hear it.


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    #21
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Next time you go away strip your bed of all bedding and lock them away in the wardrobe.


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    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    TimeToShine wrote:
    They are absolutely not allowed to let someone sleep using your duvet, pillow and linens. If they want to let the room at the weekend they need to provide these things. I would be repulsed if a stranger was sleeping in my bed two nights a week without changing into their own sheets.


    I foresee a supreme court case with a.multi-million payout for the op.

    Or more likely, a do not resuss directive for this thread.


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,535 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    bs2014 wrote: »
    I don't have exclusive rights, but I don't expect people going in and moving my belongings and sleeping in or on my bed with bed linen when I'm not there. Regardless of the money side. <mod snip>

    If you are not paying for it , then it's not your bed


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    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,535 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    bs2014 wrote: »
    I'm paying 500e a month Monday to Friday so I'm not willing to pay another 200e a month for that privilege.
    Hence at the weekend the landlord can do what he wants with his room.


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    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    There is a previous precedence, the case of the three bears vs goldilocks.

    Seriously though, 5 day or not, I wouldn't be happy sharing sheets with a stranger. Bring it up with the LL, and see what they say.


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    BabySlam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭BabySlam


    OP, you could say to the owners " I understood the room was exclusively mine and the rent reduction of 200 was because I am not actually using it at weekends". Say "I did not understand that you would allow other people to use the room at weekends". See what they say- that may have been the owners understanding also.


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    cogotazo
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭cogotazo


    As far as I understood, it only happened once last weekend, when the parents were away, and there was kind of a party. So was this an isolated case, or a common practice?


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    allibastor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    As others have said, ask the Landlord.

    If you are only paying for Monday to Friday then you are out of luck, as with all things akin to AirBNB they should at least let you know if they use the room at the weekend, and make sure all things are cleaned and changed before you get back.


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    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    I think you're out of luck OP. Unless you pay for the weekend then the room can be used. Personally I would take the bed linen off the bed each time you go home.


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    Dial Hard
    Registered Users Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Was your bed definitely slept in or was your coat just moved? It's entirely possible your room was just used as the "coat room" during the party and your coat got moved with people looking for theirs at the end of the night.


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    goz83
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭goz83


    I would be taking the bed linen with me to be washed anyway. Who leaves bed linen on the bed for more than a week?

    My understanding of such an arrangement is that while the room is not being used each weekend by the OP, the reduction of rent is due to the fact that he is not there, using heat and other facilities. In my mind, it would not be the case that the room can be used by anyone else and access is only granted to the LL to turn on/off the radiator (which is very cheap imo).

    Needs to be cleared with the LL, isolated incident or not.


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