Crypto

paudie051

Hi Guys,

I have got loads of new products and our latest batch is healthy.

I am using parofor, encrypt from mervue labs - very good product, crypo caps only bought these last week - have not used these yet. Found parofor really hard to source up here in meath. Rang 10+ vets and none stocked it at all.

I have quit using halocur also.

Also bought kenocox to disinfect shed - havent got an opportunity to do this yet but calves are now in a different location and the latest batch are all good.

Thanks so much for all your help.

Regards
Padraic

patsy_mccabe

Padraic,
I was thinking about your predicament only yesterday. The calves that got Crypto of which cows were they, homebred or those bought in?
It could be 2 different scenarios
A - you had crypto all along but the new cows hadn't the beastings strong enough to deal with it. So their calves got sick.
B - The bought in cows had it and your own cows hadn't the immunity to deal with it.

paudie051

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Padraic,
I was thinking about your predicament only yesterday. The calves that got Crypto of which cows were they, homebred or those bought in?
It could be 2 different scenarios
A - you had crypto all along but the new cows hadn't the beastings strong enough to deal with it. So their calves got sick.
B - The bought in cows had it and your own cows hadn't the immunity to deal with it.

Hi patsy,

We have a mixture of homebred and bought in. Personally i reckon its the bought in cows that caused the issue.

We had one dead this morning but he has been sick the last few weeks so he must not have hae the strength to fight it off.

Touch wood that the new items we have in helps.

C4d78

A few mentioned using hydrogen peroxide on here for disinfecting against crypto.
The product I bought is 6%.
For footbaths, washing feeding equipment is this to be further diluted down. If so anyone know the mixing rate.

blackdog1

C4d78 wrote:

A few mentioned using hydrogen peroxide on here for disinfecting against crypto. The product I bought is 6%. For footbaths, washing feeding equipment is this to be further diluted down. If so anyone know the mixing rate.

6% is fine. That's what I use. I paid €60 euro for a 25 litre drum of 35% . Be careful some companies will fleece you for it. First place I went to wanted €100 a litre for 50%

C4d78

blackdog1 wrote: »

6% is fine. That's what I use. I paid €60 euro for a 25 litre drum of 35% . Be careful some companies will fleece you for it. First place I went to wanted €100 a litre for 50%

Only got a 5L. Will do me for this yr. Could you DM me where you got the 25L maybe for next year.
Thanks.

Farrell

Maybe stupid question, would water quality play apart

L1985

Hey guys anyone using keifir? Just starting trying it on one calf with crypto. Seems to be working gave him a dose on Thursday and no powder or tablets and another one today and no scour and he was scouring for the past 2 weeks. Just interested if anyone's been using it longer and is it worth it or just the calf has finally decided to kick it himself!!!

SKIPPY150

got a roasting with crypto last year, lost a load of calves .This year Plastered all the walls in the caf sheds and calving pens. disinfect regularlywith kenocox.
didnt find halocure any good ,using stuff called cryptonite this year and it seems to be working a treat, its powder that you mix with the milk, getting it in glanbia. So far have lost no calves to scours and all calves seem to be thriving well touchwood:)

Hard Knocks

Have a replacement calf showing a little scour, maybe it's just adjusting to cow milk, but I'm weary it could be crypto.
Vet has halacur & also Bimadine powder.
Has anyone used Bimadine & what did the think of it.
Use a white powder in the past, can't think what its called, comes in a big bag & you give it over 5 days

blackdog1

Hard Knocks wrote:

Have a replacement calf showing a little scour, maybe it's just adjusting to cow milk, but I'm weary it could be crypto. Vet has halacur & also Bimadine powder. Has anyone used Bimadine & what did the think of it. Use a white powder in the past, can't think what its called, comes in a big bag & you give it over 5 days

Do a dung sample. Treat for what your vet recommends while waiting for results.

Hard Knocks

blackdog1 wrote: »

Do a dung sample. Treat for what your vet recommends while waiting for results.

He's recommend both / either & I'm iffy on Halocur from reading here, but it could be the better product

blackdog1

Hard Knocks wrote:

He's recommend both / either & I'm iffy on Halocur from reading here, but it could be the better product

Wouldn't be a fan of halacur and it's a preventative not a cure. Most vets don't stock parafor though and it's better you use what he has and if you have crypto in the dung sample then you can source parafor later.

stretch film

What concentration sorgene 5 are people using for crypto. .
1:100 is on label as strongest mix but not specifically mentioning crypto. .

Some research online showing good kills at 3-5% .

blackdog1

stretch film wrote:

What concentration sorgene 5 are people using for crypto. . 1:100 is on label as strongest mix but not specifically mentioning crypto. .

stretch film wrote:

Some research online showing good kills at 3-5% .

Sorgene is great for everything other than crypto and coccidiosis. Doesn't kill those 2. Hydrogen peroxide, interkokask and others kill those 2.

stretch film

blackdog1 wrote: »

Sorgene is great for everything other than crypto and coccidiosis. Doesn't kill those 2. Hydrogen peroxide, interkokask and others kill those 2.

Up to 30% hyd per in sorgene .
Was advised to spray on sorgene straight away after washing and when the housing has dried to use something to kill the protozoa.

whelan2

When do you disenfect ? Is it better to disenfect a few days before the sheds are going to be used ?

stretch film

whelan2 wrote: »

When do you disenfect ? Is it better to disenfect a few days before the sheds are going to be used ?

Usually after washing .

Had a touch of crypto in later calves .
First time it was identified.
So open to all suggestions

blackdog1

stretch film wrote:

Up to 30% hyd per in sorgene . Was advised to spray on sorgene straight away after washing and when the housing has dried to use something to kill the protozoa.

I've used sorgene and it won't kill crypto. I'd say the hydrogen peroxide strength is too low in it.

Mooooo

Steam clean may help prior to disinfection. Used a product to disinfect called cyclex found it good got crypto last year in first batch of calves this year only the last 4 born got it,