Antifa.....the joke that keeps on giving

20Cent

infogiver wrote: »

It's just so funny though, the guy in the blonde wig cracks me up every time

Tricking the alt right isn't that difficult in fairness. They fell for trump.

Danzy

Help!!!! wrote: »

Nazis fought & lost in the WW, Neo Nazis are gob****es & yes celebrating Hitlers birthday should not be tolerated.

They are but it is the pretense that groups like Antifa are any different, they are much bigger, much more violent and liable to turn on all.

They are like a masked group of 1950s Priests hunting out heretics and sinners, to them everyone is a sinner.

Help!!!!

Danzy wrote: »

They are but it is the pretense that groups like Antifa are any different, they are much bigger, much more violent and liable to turn on all.

They are like a masked group of 1950s Priests hunting out heretics and sinners, to them everyone is a sinner.

Agreed & they cant see the way they are acting that they are now the fascists that they want to get rid of.

20Cent

Extreme right wing German party the Afd are having their conference in Cologne. Antifa are making sure it doesn't run smoothly.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

Extreme right wing German party the Afd are having their conference in Cologne. Antifa are making sure it doesn't run smoothly.

So the fascists against fascism try to disrupt political discourse with violence and intimidation once again!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/22/police-injured-protests-against-right-wing-afd-party-congress/

imagine, getting married? such fascists shut them down!

20Cent

Alt right troll Milo still hasn't done anything about the pedophiles he is protecting.
Suppose his followers will love the below.


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
In light of recent controversies, I am planning a huge multi-day event called MILO'S FREE SPEECH WEEK in Berkeley later this year. We will hold talks and rallies and throw massive parties, all in the name of free expression and the First Amendment. All will be welcome, regardless of political affiliation.
Free speech has never been more under threat in America -- especially at the supposed home of the free speech movement. I will bring activists, writers, artists, politicians, YouTubers, veterans and drag queens from across the ideological spectrum to lecture, march, and party.
MILO'S FREE SPEECH WEEK will include events on the UC Berkeley campus. We will stand united against the "progressive" Left. We will loudly reject the venomous hectoring and moral hypocrisy of social justice warriors. Free speech belongs to everyone -- not just the spoilt brats of the academy.
During MILO'S FREE SPEECH WEEK, we will give out a new free speech prize -- the Mario Savio Award -- to the person we believe has done most to protect free expression at UC Berkeley and its surrounding area. Each day will be dedicated to a different enemy of free speech, including feminism, Black Lives Matter and Islam.
If UC Berkeley does not actively assist us in the planning and execution of this event, we will extend festivities to an entire month. We will establish a tent city on Sproul Plaza protesting the university's total dereliction of its duty and encourage students at other universities to follow suit.
I intend to return Berkeley to its rightful place as the home of free speech -- whether university administrators and violent far-left antifa thugs like it or not.
- MILO

P.S., I will be releasing further details of my grand comeback tour in the coming few weeks, including information about a special CINCO DE MILO event on 5/5.

20Cent

Taxi drivers and businesses refusing to do business with the delegates of the afd conference.

No beer for Nazi's.

Depp

Because right wing always equals nazis :rolleyes:

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

Because right wing always equals nazis :rolleyes:

No it's their policies.
Bet you hadn't even heard of them until the post above.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

No it's their policies.
Bet you hadn't even heard of them until the post above.

theyre your bog standard right wing nationalist eurosceptic anti mass immigration party, nothing in there about ethnic cleansing or genocide. You might disagree with them politically but that doesn't make them nazis. I looked them up recently while looking into le pen and the front national. No pro nazi policies in either of them.

Idiotic bullsh!t like this is taking all the meaning out of the word nazi which is disgusting given how evil the nazis actually were. You should be ashamed of yourself. Look up dachau, look up bergen belsen next time you want to criticize someone looking for tighter immigration theres a big fcuking gap.

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

theyre your bog standard right wing nationalist eurosceptic anti mass immigration party, nothing in there about ethnic cleansing or genocide. You might disagree with them politically but that doesn't make them nazis. I looked them up recently while looking into le pen and the front national. No pro nazi policies in either of them.

Idiotic bullsh!t like this is taking all the meaning out of the word nazi which is disgusting given how evil the nazis actually were. You should be ashamed of yourself.

AFD party MP quit because their policies were so reminiscent of the Nazi's.

German MP quits AfD after comparing party's refugee policy to Nazi plans to deport Jews

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/19/german-mp-quits-afd-comparing-partys-refugee-policy-nazi-plans/

'Hitler please come back':
https://www.thelocal.de/20170214/afd-parliamentary-candidate-in-hitler-photo-controversy

It has come to light that an AfD parliamentary candidate for the Nüremberg area, Elena Roon, sent a photo of Adolf Hitler to members on an AfD group Whatsapp chat last summer.

The photo was accompanied with the phrases: "Missed since 1945", and "Adolf please get in touch! Germany needs you! The German people!"

In another photo sent by Roon on the messaging service, Hitler is seen ruffling his hair, saying "Islamists... I forgot them!"

Will I Am Not

20Cent wrote: »

No it's their policies.
Bet you hadn't even heard of them until the post above.

And you probably hadn't heard of them until you unearthed it on Twitter during your search to find stuff to keep dumping in this thread.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

AFD party MP quit because their policies were so reminiscent of the Nazi's.

German MP quits AfD after comparing party's refugee policy to Nazi plans to deport Jews

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/19/german-mp-quits-afd-comparing-partys-refugee-policy-nazi-plans/

'Hitler please come back':
https://www.thelocal.de/20170214/afd-parliamentary-candidate-in-hitler-photo-controversy

It has come to light that an AfD parliamentary candidate for the Nüremberg area, Elena Roon, sent a photo of Adolf Hitler to members on an AfD group Whatsapp chat last summer.

The photo was accompanied with the phrases: "Missed since 1945", and "Adolf please get in touch! Germany needs you! The German people!"

In another photo sent by Roon on the messaging service, Hitler is seen ruffling his hair, saying "Islamists... I forgot them!"

this story was an accusation with no proof ever surfacing, you also conveniently left out that the party are investigating with a view to throwing her out if it turns out to be true. cant imagin the nazis fcuking someone out of the party for whatsapping a pic of hitler can you?

Just do me one favor...look up some actual nazis and the sh!t they did next time you want a buzzword to criticize someones immigration policy. Have a bit of respect.

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

this story was an accusation with no proof ever surfacing, you also conveniently left out that the party are investigating with a view to throwing her out if it turns out to be true. cant imagin the nazis fcuking someone out of the party for whatsapping a pic of hitler can you?

Just do me one favor...look up some actual nazis and the sh!t they did before you want to use the word to criticize someones immigration
policy. Have a bit of respect.

Interning people in camps is not your run of the mill right wing immigration policy. One of the highest ranking members resigned in disgust at their policies. Also the German people would know a bit about it.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

Interning people in camps is not your run of the mill right wing immigration policy. One of the highest ranking members resigned in disgust at their policies. Also the German people would know a bit about it.

refugees live in direct provision camps here for gods sake. Are the Irish govt Nazis? stop it with the sensationalist nonsense. these camps are a far cry from somewhere like bergen belsen.

Yes the german people do know about it, thats why they're one of the fastest growing political parties in germany at the minute, despite how much democracy offends antifa thugs.

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

refugees live in direct provision camps here for gods sake. stop it with the sensationalist nonsense. these camps are a far cry from somewhere like bergen belsen.

Yes the german people do know about it, thats why they're one of the fastest growing political parties in germany at the minute, despite how much democracy offends antifa thugs.

They can come and go from mosney. AFD want to round people up and keep them locked up. Bit of a difference.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

They can come and go from mosney. AFD want to round people up and keep them locked up. Bit of a difference.

they want to control undocumented migrants till they can do background checks and find out who they actually are, thats exactly what happened at Auschwitz!

Look up the word nazi, who they actually were and what they actually did before you throw the word around in future please, have some respect.

20Cent wrote: »

Read an article about how even after being proven wrong the ideologue will still believe something if it fits their narrative.

very relevant.

Sweetemotion

Depp wrote: »

refugees live in direct provision camps here for gods sake. Are the Irish govt Nazis? stop it with the sensationalist nonsense. these camps are a far cry from somewhere like bergen belsen.

Yes the german people do know about it, thats why they're one of the fastest growing political parties in germany at the minute, despite how much democracy offends antifa thugs.

Watching Reuters today. They said this could be the first year the ADF can have seats in the German government, and then said even though their popularity is decline?

How does that make sense...

Depp

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Watching Reuters today. They said this could be the first year the ADF can have seats in the German government and then said, even though their popularity is decline?

How does that make sense...

Misleading statistic that, popularity is different from no. of members/supporters, which is increasing steadily, same as far right euroskeptic parties all over europe

20Cent

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Watching Reuters today. They said this could be the first year the ADF can have seats in the German government, and then said even though their popularity is decline?

How does that make sense...

Their leader resigned, their of chief whip called them nazis, they have a praising hitler scandal and antifa are kicking their asses. Would say they are in decline.

Sweetemotion

20Cent wrote: »

Their leader resigned, their of chief whip called them nazis, they have a praising hitler scandal and antifa are kicking their asses. Would say they are in decline.

Antifa couldn't kick anybodies ass, It's just a bunch of spoiled brats and old crusty tree huggers.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

Their leader resigned, their of chief whip called them nazis, they have a praising hitler scandal and antifa are kicking their asses. Would say they are in decline.

the numbers of people supproting them would dissagree with you there!

Depp

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Antifa couldn't kick anybodies ass, It's just a bunch of spoiled brats and old crusty tree huggers.

ah they kick plenty of peoples asses...when they outnumber them. other than that they just run away!

20Cent

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Antifa couldn't kick anybodies ass, It's just a bunch of spoiled brats and old crusty tree huggers.

Check out ehat is happening in Cologne nazis on the run.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

Check out ehat is happening in Cologne nazis on the run.

from what I can see the only people antifa thugs are clashing with are the police!

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

the numbers of people supproting them would dissagree with you there!

Dropped from 14% to 8%.in a year.
Can't even hold a conference.
Their leader is leaving them.
On the way out.

Sweetemotion

20Cent wrote: »

Dropped from 14% to 8%.in a year.
Can't even hold a conference.
Their leader is leaving them.
On the way out.

If their popularity is dropping, why then could this be the first year they could be seated in government?

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

Dropped from 14% to 8%.in a year.
Can't even hold a conference.
Their leader is leaving them.
On the way out.

wonder is that why all polls are predicting them to get seats for the first time ever in the elections in september? Also they are currently holding a conference.

Also just to clarify not a party I support, bit too far right for me, Im just calling out your lies

20Cent

Sweetemotion wrote: »

If their popularity is dropping, why then could this be the first year they could be seated in government?

Was that prediction made before this weekend?
They are currently imploding at their conference.

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

wonder is that why all polls are predicting them to get seats for the first time ever in the elections in september? Also they are currently holding a conference.

Also just to clarify not a party I support, bit too far right for me, Im just calling out your lies

Because the polls were done before they imploded? Conferrnce delegates need police escorts to get into it they are so hated.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

Because the polls were done before they imploded? Conferrnce delegates need police escorts to get into it they are so hated.

Not sure how one could see them needing police protection from thugs as a positive but that says a lot too i guess!

Also the polls are a monthly thing and while you are correct they did dip to around 8% in recent months, they seem to have bounced back from that and are back on the rise, now back to around 11% or so. Your statistics are wrong.


Sky blue line/dots represents the afd

Also important to note many in germany think the actual number may be higher due to the silent voter effect we've seen so far in trump/brexit votes

Sweetemotion

20Cent wrote: »

Because the polls were done before they imploded? Conferrnce delegates need police escorts to get into it they are so hated.

They are hated, by people who hate themselves. No sleep lost.

PraxisPete

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Sweetemotion

PraxisPete wrote: »

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Nice ninja edit.

Help!!!!

20Cent how many refugees do you think Ireland should take in??

Brian?

Help!!!! wrote: »

20Cent how many refugees do you think Ireland should take in??

I think we should meet the commitments we've made as a nation. I think that's 4000 by end of 2017 from Syria. Do you have an issue with that?


I know you didn't ask me.

Depp

Brian? wrote: »

I think we should meet the commitments we've made as a nation. I think that's 4000 by end of 2017 from Syria. Do you have an issue with that?


I know you didn't ask me.

Focus Ireland estimate around 5000 homeless across the country, think the govt's priority should be getting these people sorted before we worry about housing refugees.

Help!!!!

Brian? wrote: »

I think we should meet the commitments we've made as a nation. I think that's 4000 by end of 2017 from Syria. Do you have an issue with that?


I know you didn't ask me.

So no more than that?? Just asking because the way people talk on here, it should be open borders.
The only issue I have is where is the money coming from to house/feed/educate these people?

Help!!!!

Depp wrote: »

Focus Ireland estimate around 5000 homeless across the country, think the govt's priority should be getting these people sorted before we worry about housing refugees.

Yeah this is what I cant understand, theres no money for the homeless, theres no money for HSE etc but sure lets take in some refugees
I think the people of Ireland have been squeezed enough for the last few years that we should be looking after whose here already first

Depp

Help!!!! wrote: »

Yeah this is what I cant understand, theres no money for the homeless, theres no money for HSE etc but sure lets take in some refugees
I think the people of Ireland have been squeezed enough for the last few years that we should be looking after whose here already first

Exactly, at this stage it all looks like virtue signalling to me. I get the idea of bringing in refugees its a great thing to do but whats the point when you have people freezing to death on the streets of our nations capital. I'm 100% behind supporting people in tough situations but why look internationally for them? there are plenty of them here already.

511

Brian? wrote: »

I think we should meet the commitments we've made as a nation. I think that's 4000 by end of 2017 from Syria. Do you have an issue with that?


I know you didn't ask me.

How long should they stay for and where do we house them?

I'm completely against taking in 3rd world refugees because of what happened in Australia in 2000 when they took in Lebanese refugees between 1975 and 1990..

511

Oh and I came here to post a link to everyone's favourite antifa girl: https://www.facebook.com/logan.e.hall.1/posts/10211253213878704?comment_id=10211253344521970&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D

Louise Rosealma wrote:

There needs to be a huge effort to become militarized and act together as a unit, hit the streets in small intimate, directly elected units. Need to be armed and know how to use it. Stop infighting about whose more or less oppressed and fight the common root cause enemy of it all: capitalism.

Brian?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Brian? wrote: »

I think we should meet the commitments we've made as a nation. I think that's 4000 by end of 2017 from Syria. Do you have an issue with that?


I know you didn't ask me.

So no more than that?? Just asking because the way people talk on here, it should be open borders.
The only issue I have is where is the money coming from to house/feed/educate these people?

We should take our fair share, as should all first world countries. In terms of overall budget it's a drop in the ocean.

Brian?

Depp wrote: »

Help!!!! wrote: »

Yeah this is what I cant understand, theres no money for the homeless, theres no money for HSE etc but sure lets take in some refugees
I think the people of Ireland have been squeezed enough for the last few years that we should be looking after whose here already first

Exactly, at this stage it all looks like virtue signalling to me. I get the idea of bringing in refugees its a great thing to do but whats the point when you have people freezing to death on the streets of our nations capital. I'm 100% behind supporting people in tough situations but why look internationally for them? there are plenty of them here already.

"Virtue signalling"? Brilliant. Completely overused and empty phrase. Used by the right to mischaracterise any altruistic ideas. Just because you don't understand altruism, you can't ascribe a meaning that isn't there.

We have plenty of homeless people in Ireland. Money is not the obstacle to resolving the issue though.

Brian?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Brian? wrote: »

I think we should meet the commitments we've made as a nation. I think that's 4000 by end of 2017 from Syria. Do you have an issue with that?


I know you didn't ask me.

So no more than that?? Just asking because the way people talk on here, it should be open borders.
The only issue I have is where is the money coming from to house/feed/educate these people?

Also, nice straw man. I'd say there'll be some heat off him once you burn him.

Who's advocating open borders on this thread?

Seanachai

Brian? wrote: »

"Virtue signalling"? Brilliant. Completely overused and empty phrase. Used by the right to mischaracterise any altruistic ideas. Just because you don't understand altruism, you can't ascribe a meaning that isn't there.

We have plenty of homeless people in Ireland. Money is not the obstacle to resolving the issue though.

You can't realistically deny that there are a lot on the left or people with new liberal attitudes that virtue-signal when it comes to immigration, regular people and some very extreme viewpoints expressed by public figures. The government will agree to take in refugees, not out of compassion but to polish their image. Some will argue that as a wealthy developed nation we should be well able to provide for out homeless as well as a certain number of refugees.

This is an ideal situation where we are not ruled by people who couldn't give a toss about the welfare of current citizens or potential citizens. What will more than likely happen is the skilled refugees will be scooped up to work in the health service and other professions and the non-skilled will be left on the same housing lists that current citizens are on and though they will be free from the dangers of warfare will be thrown on the scrapheap like the rest of the struggling class.

Ulysses Gaze

Seanachai wrote: »

You can't realistically deny that there are a lot on the left or people with new liberal attitudes that virtue-signal when it comes to immigration, regular people and some very extreme viewpoints expressed by public figures. The government will agree to take in refugees, not out of compassion but to polish their image. Some will argue that as a wealthy developed nation we should be well able to provide for out homeless as well as a certain number of refugees.

This is an ideal situation where we are not ruled by people who couldn't give a toss about the welfare of current citizens or potential citizens. What will more than likely happen is the skilled refugees will be scooped up to work in the health service and other professions and the non-skilled will be left on the same housing lists that current citizens are on and though they will be free from the dangers of warfare will be thrown on the scrapheap like the rest of the struggling class.

Which is exactly what the "Model" Swedes have done.

Depp

Brian? wrote: »

"Virtue signalling"? Brilliant. Completely overused and empty phrase. Used by the right to mischaracterise any altruistic ideas. Just because you don't understand altruism, you can't ascribe a meaning that isn't there.

We have plenty of homeless people in Ireland. Money is not the obstacle to resolving the issue though.

Altruism is all well and good but my point still stands, how can we be expected to house and feed 4000 refugees when there are 5000 irish people with no roofs over their heads?l Very noble of the govt. to commit to help syrian refugees but it just all seems a bit like an empty gesture when they're are people sleeping rough up and down the country that they refuse to help.

20Cent

Depp wrote: »

Altruism is all well and good but my point still stands, how can we be expected to house and feed 4000 refugees when there are 5000 irish people with no roofs over their heads?l Very noble of the govt. to commit to help syrian refugees but it just all seems a bit like an empty gesture when they're are people sleeping rough up and down the country that they refuse to help.

A non sequitur, a straw man and a false dilema all in one post.

Bravo.

Depp

20Cent wrote: »

A non sequitur, a straw man and a false dilema all in one post.

Bravo.

so the homelesness crisis in ireland is a false dilemma then? by all means keep patting yourself on the back for how much you care about refugees though, you must be a really good person :rolleyes: