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December 2017 babies club

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    I’m always holding him so far so he’s never actually fell yet but I’m thinking of when he’s bigger and can climb up by himself and then launches himself off. It’s gas alright and I’m surprised at how relaxed I am about it. Before he started standing I thought I’d be a nervous wreak about him falling but they have to fall to learn how to save themselves. Can’t wrap them in bubble wrap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Im with you on that, every time she went at the start i was like nooooo quick catch her. But they learn so fast, for about two days she thought it was gas when you chased her crawling but she would get too excited then and kinda smack her head down on the tiles ( in laughter) but she learned that hurt so now she holds her head up.. Clever out they are... Have a lovely weekend everyone hope ye are all indoors with this weather


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    Thanks ladies for the replies! Milky yes the room has a low light on and black outs on windows so is quite dark during the day and the night/morning! I think she just loves sleeping beside us! Like if I put her into the cot to go to sleep she loses her life and roars crying! If it’s me she just wants to be fed to sleep and if it’s my husband! Not sure how we are gonna stop the parent dependency she has!

    Bee I actually feel better to hear someone else feeds to sleep! I just assumed it was me and everyone else I talk to seems to have it sorted! How will your little one sleep when you are in work? fiadhs naps aren’t great either 40 mins usually! I think that’s cos I feed her to sleep! If I go to bed with her she sleeps much longer! For example today she napped for 2.5 Hours but I was beside her and she has been sick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    Thanks ladies for the replies! Milky yes the room has a low light on and black outs on windows so is quite dark during the day and the night/morning! I think she just loves sleeping beside us! Like if I put her into the cot to go to sleep she loses her life and roars crying! If it’s me she just wants to be fed to sleep and if it’s my husband! Not sure how we are gonna stop the parent dependency she has!

    Bee I actually feel better to hear someone else feeds to sleep! I just assumed it was me and everyone else I talk to seems to have it sorted! How will your little one sleep when you are in work? fiadhs naps aren’t great either 40 mins usually! I think that’s cos I feed her to sleep! If I go to bed with her she sleeps much longer! For example today she napped for 2.5 Hours but I was beside her and she has been sick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Pocos, almost every breastfeeding mom I know in real life and on Facebook groups feed to sleep. It’s biologically normal. I’m a firm believer than my little fella will fall asleep by himself when he’s ready to. I won’t be feeding him to sleep when he’s in secondary school! Cosleeping is also perfectly normal if that works for you.

    When I’m not here my husband gets him to sleep by walking around and my mom (who will be minding him when I’m working) has her own method (rocking and singing I think).

    Sarah Ockwell Smith has a great book and some blogs on the subject.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    bee06 wrote: »
    Pocos, almost every breastfeeding mom I know in real life and on Facebook groups feed to sleep. It’s biologically normal. I’m a firm believer than my little fella will fall asleep by himself when he’s ready to. I won’t be feeding him to sleep when he’s in secondary school! Cosleeping is also perfectly normal if that works for you.

    When I’m not here my husband gets him to sleep by walking around and my mom (who will be minding him when I’m working) has her own method (rocking and singing I think).

    Sarah Ockwell Smith has a great book and some blogs on the subject.

    Thanks bee I know it’s normal and totally natural but I’m kinda done! Like she had been go to being put to sleep either by myself or my husband (rocked!) but has started to kick up when he tries putting her to bed!
    We struggled getting her onto bottles so I was the only one putting her to her for a long time! I suppose i enjoyed the mental pressure of not being the only person able to put her to sleep!

    Also would like to start thinking about trying again but no period yet so need to give up before that comes back! Thanks though for advice! Hard to know what’s the right thing to do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Ahh sorry, I thought you were worried that she should be able to self soothe at this stage. I totally get what you’re saying about the pressure though, it would be nice to have the option of actually leaving the house and leave bedtime to someone else once in a while! I kinda feel like I’ll get to one then decide what to do. Like you, we want to start trying again sooner rather than later because of my age and how long it took to get pregnant the first time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    bee06 wrote: »
    Ahh sorry, I thought you were worried that she should be able to self soothe at this stage. I totally get what you’re saying about the pressure though, it would be nice to have the option of actually leaving the house and leave bedtime to someone else once in a while! I kinda feel like I’ll get to one then decide what to do. Like you, we want to start trying again sooner rather than later because of my age and how long it took to get pregnant the first time.

    We are the same took a year the first time so I’d like Fiadh to have a sibling close in age! So the feeding gotta go and will if I stop feeding her to sleep! But she expects it now so I’m not sure how to stop! I pretty much was hoping she would go off the idea herself but not happening these days!

    If anything it’s gotten worse :( I do enjoyed it but need to start thinking about the future too!

    Any suggestions would be really appreciated?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    bee06 wrote: »
    Ahh sorry, I thought you were worried that she should be able to self soothe at this stage. I totally get what you’re saying about the pressure though, it would be nice to have the option of actually leaving the house and leave bedtime to someone else once in a while! I kinda feel like I’ll get to one then decide what to do. Like you, we want to start trying again sooner rather than later because of my age and how long it took to get pregnant the first time.

    We are the same took a year the first time so I’d like Fiadh to have a sibling close in age! So the feeding gotta go and will if I stop feeding her to sleep! But she expects it now so I’m not sure how to stop! I pretty much was hoping she would go off the idea herself but not happening these days!

    If anything it’s gotten worse :( I do enjoyed it but need to start thinking about the future too!

    Any suggestions would be really appreciated?!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    If you get pregnant, the breastmilk often dries up or changes taste due to different hormones which can often naturally stop the feeding.....
    Anecdotally I have heard that from quite a few mums.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Pocos wrote: »
    We are the same took a year the first time so I’d like Fiadh to have a sibling close in age! So the feeding gotta go and will if I stop feeding her to sleep! But she expects it now so I’m not sure how to stop! I pretty much was hoping she would go off the idea herself but not happening these days!

    If anything it’s gotten worse :( I do enjoyed it but need to start thinking about the future too!

    Any suggestions would be really appreciated?!

    This is a book that’s recommended a lot in the BF Facebook group I’m in for weaning off feeding to sleep.

    https://www.easons.com/the-no-cry-sleep-solution-elizabeth-pantley-9780071381390


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Would you try the bottle again Pocos. Maybe try a differant brand or try it over two weeks and see if it would work. Could express the milk. I know I am not breastfeeding now and we did start everything early, but used to give her the bottle in the morning and evening and himself would do it. Really for this reason and also so that he would have time with her and she was dependant on me.. Best of luck with it, persistance will pay off..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    Hi all

    Thanks for the suggestions! I think I didn’t make myself clear we got Fiadh to take bottle at 7.5 months (she’s now 10 months!) so I would consider her milk needs are met by the bottle! She takes 3 bottles now morning, lunch and before bed! So when she feeds from me it’s a total comfort thing! It’s literally 5 mins, and off to sleep! I tend to feed in the middle of the night and maybe once during the day to put her to sleep for a nap! (I either work am/pm so only here for one nap!) so it’s one feed per boob so not a lot!

    My original post was more on how people get their babies to sleep? Like she wakes at least twice a night and we feel it’s how we put her to sleep, completely parent dependent!

    I suppose she will grow out of it eventually just felt at 10 months we’d be getting a full sleep!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Anne_cordelia


    Pocos wrote: »

    I suppose she will grow out of it eventually just felt at 10 months we’d be getting a full sleep!

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news but don’t expect to have a consistent sleeper until she 3. There will of course be periods where they will sleep but until age 3 there are sleep regressions and development spurts that will have most children waking for months on end. Also sleep isn’t linear so they don’t start sleeping through the night at 8/10/12 months or whatever and that’s it. They might sleep for a week or a month and then regress for whatever reason. It’s nothing you are doing wrong and nothing you can control. Your baby is an individual and is going to do what suits them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    Absolutely floored by a vomiting bug. Baby had it since Friday but shes ok now. I got hit with it yesterday evening. Barely able to move, such a bad dose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭fits


    My lads are a year older and I stillfeed tosleep. But beginning to see signs of them being more independent. Anecdotally periods seemed to return at fifteen months for a lot of people. They did for me anyway even with feeding twins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Sorry to hear lashes hope you are begining to feel better..And your little one is over it all. Must say I kinda get the shivers thinking about stuff like that, how did you handle her getting sick? Was it even if she was down for a nap she would be sick? I can deal with some things not fully sure how i would be with this. And their faces i can imagine it must be so scay for them...

    Anne_cordelia god three sounds like a long time away to be a good sleeper :), i just dont get this as have to say herself is a dinger but again she was in routine from the get go, firm believer in it and it has paid off so far.. Have you tried soothers pocos then for bedtime? I know tis another thing to wean off as such but if it was just used for bed time might be worth a shot. Currently trying to get herslef off them as tis a bit of a game now her throwing it out of the cot. doing well during the day but she still likes it at night...

    Moved her cot down to the last stage this weekend, she seems so far away but was worried she would go overboard.. Changing her now is getting fun as I just about reach to the end of the cot... Got her her birthday pressies too and have the trike picked out in smyths must just wait till next month to pick it up. I cant wait to decorate the house as we took her shopping at the weekend and her face with all the lights was just so well you could cry it was so cute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Glad he ws good on the flight for ye how long was it then. I had herself on about an hour one and she was the same flirting with everyone who would pay attention. Thank god the airline said they will pay i hope they do quickly for ye... Was it a big car seat or the maxi cozy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    OSI wrote: »
    2 flights each way with the longest being 7 hours :o We booked the bassinet for the 2 long legs but he hated so spent no more than 30 seconds in it.


    Was a MaxiCosi alright with the IsoFix base. Dopes in Dublin Airport tried to say it was "wear and tear"

    It probably sounds like a strange thing to say but at least it was obviously damaged. We took ours abroad as well and my fear was/is that it would be dropped and damaged internally but it wouldn’t be known.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Anne_cordelia


    Milly33 wrote: »

    Anne_cordelia god three sounds like a long time away to be a good sleeper :), i just dont get this as have to say herself is a dinger but again she was in routine from the get go, firm believer in it and it has paid off so far..

    In my experience with friends and my own, the ‘good’ sleepers as babies end up not sleeping for periods around 1.5/2/3. Obviously there will be some exceptions (and not talking about anyone who has sleep trained), I’m speaking generally but most people end up putting in their hours awake at night at some stage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Wear and Tear haha they will try anything.. Darn that the isofix was part of it but very lucky as bee said that there was obvious damage done to it.. 7 hours jes that is fantastic with him... A dream...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I would have zero expectations of continuous runs of full night's sleep up to maybe 14 months, and then after that you might get a few days, then a few broken nights then a few good nights and so on til maybe 2/2.5.
    And my kids would probably be considered very good sleepers.My first is very good, second hit and miss (she's 2.5 and we seem to be having a good stretch now...touch wood) and no.3 at 6 months sleeps 8-7 but he does stir awake on and off and some nights he chats for a while in the AM hours.It'll catch you somewhere.The problem is not really how often they wake, (because they do) it's how easily and quickly you can get them back to sleep, and that one is on you as a parent to sort out really.
    The kicker is having one child who sleeps great and them your second or third comes along...and they do not sleep!!!!That's tough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    .The problem is not really how often they wake, (because they do) it's how easily and quickly you can get them back to sleep, and that one is on you as a parent to sort out really.


    How do you expect parents to “sort that out”???


    Thanks everyone for the replies! I knew there would be periods of restlessness and poor sleep but we have had it nearly non stop (3 nights she’s slept a full night!) from week 28 till now week 45!

    When I was off it was more manageable but now with work it’s taking Its toll!

    Thanks I do feel better with your replies and appreciate people taking the time to help out!

    Bee vomiting bug must be heart breaking to see! Their poor little bodies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    Anne_cordelia god three sounds like a long time away to be a good sleeper :), i just dont get this as have to say herself is a dinger but again she was in routine from the get go, firm believer in it and it has paid off so far.. Have you tried soothers pocos then for bedtime? I know tis another thing to wean off as such but if it was just used for bed time might be worth a shot. Currently trying to get herslef off them as tis a bit of a game now her throwing it out of the cot. doing well during the day but she still likes it at night...

    Milky thank for reply! Yes I am so torn over soother! Whether to start one but we’ve gotten this far would it be silly to introduce.. like I would be replacing one sleep dependent help (ie rocking to sleep!) with a soother! It’s so hard to know what to do!

    Also i find the tireder I’m getting the harder it is to think straight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Maybe they mean how you address is as such, like going to soothe the little one or leaving them cry it out.. Ah either way sure there are always rights and wrongs so just do what you feel is best for ye...

    Really trying to get into the headspace here of the wintery weather coming in... Just to say Get out there go for a walk, rather than being stuck inside all day.. Love the winter but tis so windy here and wild it gets a bit much..

    Sorry we replied the same time, I know i hated the idea of the soother and was saying nope but it worked.. It hasnt been too bad weaning her off it during the day to be honest. Sure if needs be it might not be the worst idea. I hope you get some ease soon...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Anne_cordelia


    Pocos wrote: »
    .The problem is not really how often they wake, (because they do) it's how easily and quickly you can get them back to sleep, and that one is on you as a parent to sort out really.


    How do you expect parents to “sort that out”???


    Thanks everyone for the replies! I knew there would be periods of restlessness and poor sleep but we have had it nearly non stop (3 nights she’s slept a full night!) from week 28 till now week 45!

    When I was off it was more manageable but now with work it’s taking Its toll!

    Thanks I do feel better with your replies and appreciate people taking the time to help out!

    Bee vomiting bug must be heart breaking to see! Their poor little bodies!

    Warning gross generalisations ahead ....
    11-13 months is particularly painful. And there is nothing you can do or nothing you are doing wrong. Around 14-16 months is a wonderful sliver of hope. Then bam comes the worst sleep regression since 4 months along with terrible behaviour. It’s a tough stage until 18/19 months. Sleep improves a little but not a whole pile. Then 2-2.5 is overall pretty good. Then another sleep regression around 2.5 but it’s not as bad and might only be a couple of nights a week. Then around 3 the nights are peaceful oasis of calm after the **** storm that is the three-nanger all day. Hold on tight!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,662 ✭✭✭Milly33


    I hope she is s sleeper all the time. I was and still am not a good sleeper, will maybe get one week of proper sleep and then back to the norm. Tried everything for it, which have to say the best one is this Lullaby Milk which im delighted is coming back to Aldi for always this time. If anyone is a bad sleeper here (parent wise) give it a try, it does work. It is great to see them taking off as they are a loverly company...

    Anywho super proud of herself she has got the sign for milk!! Now she has used it a few times before but she really understands it now.. I was just like child genius....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭Pocos


    Anne_cordeilla I’m happy to hear that there are phases which are crap and nothing I’m doing is gonna make a difference! Thanks for the heads up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    OSI wrote: »
    2 flights each way with the longest being 7 hours :o We booked the bassinet for the 2 long legs but he hated so spent no more than 30 seconds in it.


    Was a MaxiCosi alright with the IsoFix base. Dopes in Dublin Airport tried to say it was "wear and tear"

    Who did ye fly with? Whats the best thing to do on take off - is it to have them drinkin the bottle? Headin away myself on friday to alicante and just worried about the whole ear popping thing!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭donkey10


    OSI wrote: »
    2 flights each way with the longest being 7 hours :o We booked the bassinet for the 2 long legs but he hated so spent no more than 30 seconds in it.


    Was a MaxiCosi alright with the IsoFix base. Dopes in Dublin Airport tried to say it was "wear and tear"

    Who did ye fly with? Whats the best thing to do on take off - is it to have them drinkin the bottle? Headin away myself on friday to alicante and just worried about the whole ear popping thing!!


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