Sunderland vs Manchester United 09-04-17 sky sports one and sky sports mix.

RobertKK

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Poor Sunderland fans. They arrive at the Stadium of Light ever couple of weeks and see a Stadium of Shiite,
Usually a club has a great season here and there, they're always struggling it seems.

That is funny.
I will add that nickname to the Emptyhad.

Corholio

The Martial one on the keeper, he didn't dive but it was a foul imo. You don't need to make a challenge i.e. tackle, for it to be a foul. If you keep running into a player while he's kicking you're going to catch him as he's kicking it, it wasn't particularly bad or anything like that and a yellow was harsh, but it's a foul. You don't need to 'tackle with your leg' for it to be a foul.

Not related to the Herrera thing at all by the way either.

TheDoctor

Onwards and upwards.

Time to focus on adding more silverware this season.

Nice warm up session today for Thurs.

niallo27

adox wrote: »

What's that got to do with the point I was making?

If you can't see by now there is no point in telling. You are not going to get it.

adox

niallo27 wrote: »

If you can't see by now there is no point in telling. You are not going to get it.

Yeah so nothing. Whataboutery from you.

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

On a roll today
Amount of misery
Thread already getting a score of 10/10 for the "would read again" award

Totally would read again

Oh and before I forget

https://twitter.com/ManUtd_HQ/status/851065322471923712

jimmytwotimes 2013

Always love how a fella who nearly gets broke up in a tackle then gets booed cos the culprit gets the line.

Bridge93

Dermot Gallagher on ref watch saying it shouldnt have been a red.

Nerdlingr

No point in putting up a screen grab of the tackle. A freeze-frame of a split second incident is no indicator of what actually happened. It was a yellow at best. Awful decision by the ref.

Again the point missed, but I have a feeling peops know that

Bridge93

Nerdlingr wrote: »

No point in putting up a screen grab of the tackle. A freeze-frame of a split second incident is no indicator of what actually happened. It was a yellow at best. Awful decision by the ref.

The picture is not to do with whether it was a red or yellow. Its putting the argument that Herrera milked it and that there was no contact to bed.

Nerdlingr

Bridge93 wrote: »

The picture is not to do with whether it was a red or yellow. Its putting the argument that Herrera milked it and that there was no contact to bed.

It doesn't put it to bed though. As I said, a freeze frame from any angle can be shown to look like contact was made. Thats my point... Reposting freeze-frames proves nothing... and putting a big red circle around it like.."look!!see!! here's where he got him on the shin !!!" really doesnt mean a whole lot.

It puts to bed that fact that people continued to forget he clearly got caught on the shin, because they have some outright dislike of the player / Man Utd and continued to elude to him being the reason the player was sent off.
It was a bad tackle and could have been alot worse and Herrera was caught on the shin and the ref sent the Sunderland player off for that reason.
These are the facts.

Nerdlingr

M!Ck^ wrote: »

It puts to bed that fact that people continued to forget he clearly got caught on the shin, because they have some outright dislike of the player / Man Utd and continued to elude to him being the reason the player was sent off.
It was a bad tackle and could have been alot worse and Herrera was caught on the shin and the ref sent the Sunderland player off for that reason.
These are the facts.

The only fact is the ref sent him off. Unless we have evidence of him being caught on the shin its all hearsay, and no amount of drawing red circles on freeze-frames proves otherwise.
And people are entitled to boo if they think a player has contributed to one of theirs getting sent off... I dont think hopping around then collapsing on the ground, then holding his leg up in the air as if it was about to fall off did Herrara any favours. :D

Nerdlingr

Nerdlingr wrote: »

The only fact is the ref sent him off. Unless we have evidence of him being caught on the shin its all hearsay, and no amount of drawing red circles on freeze-frames proves otherwise.
And people are entitled to boo if they think a player has contributed to one of theirs getting sent off... I dont think hopping around then collapsing on the ground, then holding his leg up in the air as if it was about to fall off did Herrara any favours. :D

There is a picture of him getting caught on the shin.
There are replays showing he got caught on the shin.
That is a fact.
I don't give a fiddlers what the fans in the crowd think, boo away all they want. It was the nonsense that was spouted in here yesterday about the sending off.

Nerdlingr

M!Ck^ wrote: »

There is a picture of him getting caught on the shin.
There are replays showing he got caught on the shin.
That is a fact.
I don't give a fiddlers what the fans in the crowd think, boo away all they want. It was the nonsense that was spouted in here yesterday about the sending off.

Nonsense in a match day thread?!! Who would have thought. :D

limnam

Bridge93 wrote: »

Dermot Gallagher on ref watch saying it shouldnt have been a red.

He went on to say you could ask 18 ref's and get 9 answering red and 9 answering yellow. He mentioned it was one that would divide opinion. not as clear cut as the above makes it out to be.

His reasoning was around the speed of the challenge for me that' not really relevant it was bad at higher speed it would be worse but that's not enough to be yellow IMHO.

Did he go over the top? Yes
Did he catch the player? Yes
Was it dangerous ? Yes
Was he in control? No

If that != red, what do you need to do? actually break the leg?

Shanotheslayer

Nerdlingr wrote: »

It doesn't put it to bed though. As I said, a freeze frame from any angle can be shown to look like contact was made. Thats my point... Reposting freeze-frames proves nothing... and putting a big red circle around it like.."look!!see!! here's where he got him on the shin !!!" really doesnt mean a whole lot.

God damn those photoshoppers!

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Oh and before I forget

https://twitter.com/ManUtd_HQ/status/851065322471923712

Shaggy is right, but. It could just as easy show proof the tackle is missed

Johner

Yellow card imo.

RobbieTheRobber

Nerdlingr wrote: »

The only fact is the ref sent him off. Unless we have evidence of him being caught on the shin its all hearsay, and no amount of drawing red circles on freeze-frames proves otherwise.
And people are entitled to boo if they think a player has contributed to one of theirs getting sent off... I dont think hopping around then collapsing on the ground, then holding his leg up in the air as if it was about to fall off did Herrara any favours. :D

Well one thing it's not is hearsay.
We can all watch the incident over and over again and make our own judgement of it. We are not dependant on someone else's interpretation and recollection of the event.


Hearsay: information received from other people which cannot be substantiated; rumour.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Shaggy is right, but. It could just as easy show proof the tackle is missed

#bantz

Appeal rejected by the FA

Expected really

Serves his three match ban for a bad tackle

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Appeal rejected by the FA

Expected really

Serves his three match ban for a bad tackle

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Appeal rejected by the FA

Expected really

Serves his three match ban for a bad tackle

I cant believe your photoshopped picture which was still no proof of a tackle fooled the FA mick. Must have been that yellow circle.