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  • 13-04-2017 5:10pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭


    Hi,
    First time to post on boards so hope this makes it up somewhere.
    i am looking to upgrade my road bike but not sure what to get, A new road bike or tt bike.
    Doing a few olympic triathlons this year but wont to go half iron man next year or the year after . looking to spend around max 2000 euro
    thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭rodneyr1981


    Are you going holding onto current road bike?
    If not i'd go with the new road bike. TT not practical for group spins etc. & you could always stick a set of clip on tri bars on it.

    A road bike is always going to be more enjoyable when you get want to get out and cycle your bike.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    I could keep it as its not worth much. I was looking at a entry level boardman road team tt bike . Just to see how I get on . It's 960 Euro or is that just throwing away money .


  • Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    Is going 2nd hand an option? Pretty good deals to be had on TTs on adverts or donedeal


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    PoorFarmer wrote: »
    Is going 2nd hand an option? Pretty good deals to be had on TTs on adverts or donedeal

    Had a look alright . Still not sure what bike to go for. Road or TT. Might join my local tri club next year a see what happens. Just means i have a few tries to do on my old bike .
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    you could go for something in the middle.
    ie a tt bike with road bike handlebars
    or and aero road bike that has flexibility in various positions.

    something like a old cervelo soloist or a kestrel talon could
    work also this all depends what bike position you have.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,990 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    As has been mentioned if you are going to be doing group spins a raod bike is a must as many clubs ban TT bikes for safety reasons. You will get more use out of a road bike but when it comes to raving a TT bike will give you the advantage. I wont be changing bikes for the foreseeable future but if I was I would be considering an Aero road bike and TT extensions probably (unless I win the lotto and get both)


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    That's great , thanks. I didn't know there was aero road bikes. This is all new to me so grateful for the advice . so think aero road with tri extension is the way forward for me .
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,990 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    Make sure to visit as many shops as you can to try different bikes and see what suits you. Talk to the staff in the shops, they are normally very helpful and honest, most are cyclists or triathletes themselves so should give you an honest answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    2016 Rapide RC1 Disc Carbon Endurance Road Bike in Red €1650

    looking at this bike at the minute.
    is this a good bike for the price or is there better out there.

    Thanks again


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    1600 euros for tiagra? woefully overpriced

    plus don't buy a disc brake bike, very unclear whether you'll be allowed race with them this year or next

    also, that's an endurance bike, meant for long days in the saddle. if thats what you are after well and good, but your opening post made it sound like you wanted something to race on.

    personally i think that would be an awful purchase.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    Thanks for the reply.
    As I said I know nothing about bikes.
    I can only afford one bike and it has to do for everything. Turbo , training and racing.
    I was told not to get a tt as I would only have one bike and road bikes are nicer to ride.

    There was Fuji Altamira in another shop for €1600 with shimano 105 I think on it.

    Or a giant propel adv 2 2015 for €1900 .

    Thanks again


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    how come you;re looking so much online? based in greystones, must be a ton of bike shops near you .have you gone in to any and see what they have?

    on that specifically, i'd have my doubts about it, iit's not coming with those wheels as standard, it says it adds 50mm a for na extra 300 but you;re not getting ffwd 50mm for 300. i'd find out what wheels for a start.


    if you are intent on buying online(nothing wrong with that, one of my bikes was online) you'd be much better off looking at canyon or rose, much better bang for the buck


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    because i dont know what im looking or what to look for,
    as you said ,the one bike i did like was "woefully overpriced" and dont think i will be going for disc brakes .
    thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭peter kern


    dickidy wrote: »

    yes i have thoughts on this ...
    you dont know what you want so you need find somebody that can help you in telling what you want

    you cant ask people whats good if you dont show them what you ride now and more importantly how you are positioned on it and why.


    we can tell you that 105 is a very solid group set but we cant tell you what bike is right for you since we dont know you.

    so your process should be first find out what frame fits you
    longer and lower or higher and shorter etc .

    ie rahter than buying a new bike get your current bike fitted and then use those meassurements to get a new bike ( or maybe you dont even need a new bike )


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    i will have a look in a few more shops. was thinking about looking in wheelworx in fonthill industrial est (dublin)
    in no real rush .
    thanks for your help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    A Jupiter sprint I bought 5 years ago , 2 weeks before my first tri . Think it cost 450 Euro.
    Didn't have the time then to do research and look around but have now.
    Will pop into a few more shops .
    Thanks for the reply


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    go into the shops, see what they have. you want to be aiming for 105 or better on the groupset, at 2000 i'd be looking for a carbon frame, possible ultegra.

    order of groupsets from best to worst is

    duraace
    ultegra
    105
    tiagra
    sora
    2300

    sram are fine too, you;re unlikely to be looking at campagnola

    you're likely to be shown a lot of giant, trek, felt, all solid bikes. see what the shop has, ask them questions, come back here with some options and people will give opinions. sizing peter poitns out would be good to discuss with them too.

    however, this is another option for areally well spcc'd bike
    https://www.canyon.com/en-ie/road/ultimate/ultimate-cf-sl-9-0.html

    never seen anyone had complaints about canyon except for their delivery issues of a year ago which are now sorted. hell of a lot of bike for the buck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭griffin100


    dickidy wrote: »

    I was going to suggest getting yourself to a bricks and mortar shop and given were you're based was going to suggest Revolve in Gorey. Peter knows his stuff so take it as an opportunity to get some good advice. He had a nice selection of Ridley's as well last time I was in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    griffin100 wrote: »
    I was going to suggest getting yourself to a bricks and mortar shop and given were you're based was going to suggest Revolve in Gorey. Peter knows his stuff so take it as an opportunity to get some good advice. He had a nice selection of Ridley's as well last time I was in.

    Yeah he was the most involved and walked me through some things. Definitely most helpful i have talk to and liked a bike in there but someone said it was way over priced .
    Will pop in and have another look around tomorrow


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    dickidy wrote: »
    Yeah he was the most involved and walked me through some things. Definitely most helpful i have talk to and liked a bike in there but someone said it was way over priced .
    Will pop in and have another look around tomorrow

    that was me. the biggest issue was the disc brakes. you may not be allowed to use it in a race. that would seem to be a deal breaker to me

    if the guy is sound though, ask him what's the things about the bike that are making a tiagra equipped bike come up to that price. i think you are paying a lot for disc brakes you may not want at all.

    other thing is ridley are a nice brand, if he stocks them ask him what he has at the same price point. you should be able to get a carbon 105 (without disc brakes)in your budget.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    is looking second hand , (better bike for the money) a better option or should i stay looking in shops.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭pgibbo


    dickidy wrote: »
    is looking second hand , (better bike for the money) a better option or should i stay looking in shops.

    personally I'd follow Peters advice above and determine what bike fits you best. At that point I'd probably go second hand for better value if the right bike that fit me was available. Otherwise I'd go new. Bike fit is key. I found that out the hard way - bought first and struggled to get comfortable on the bike. Then got one that did fit and the difference is unreal.

    P.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭Whyner


    dickidy wrote: »
    is looking second hand , (better bike for the money) a better option or should i stay looking in shops.

    Depends on what deal you bag yourself

    I spent 2-3 months looking before getting a Giant TCR with full ultegra for €1400. It was 2 years old but sat in a spare room unused for the majority of that time. Ultegra wheels, look pedals and cleats thrown in. Only wear was some cable rub

    That's better value than using BTW. I got mine through a wanted ad on this site

    So get searching...:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    thanks whyner,

    my head is melted looking at bikes. im on the computer so much looking at bikes the wife is calling it bike porn.
    i am getting to know what to look for now though through reading all the advice but i will just put up a load of pics of bikes
    new and old and just let you all pick one haha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gerfmurphy


    Aidan Hammond is in kilmacangoue not to far from greystones/bray. He would be able to do a bike fit and advise on what to buy, how agressive a position for given distance based on your ability / flexibility etc.
    I always found him a very helpful and knowledgeable guy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy


    think i have down to 2 bikes

    the
    giant propel advance 2 1900 euro
    or
    kuota kredo limited addition (ultegra) 1958 euro or with cosmic wheels for 2100


  • Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭dickidy




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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Your head is melted?


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