Could a terror attack happen in Ireland?

Danzy

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Is there any genuine threat from Republican violence in Ireland at the moment?

Little things, maybe a shooting once every few years but the will isn't real there.

Dubh Linn

So, no more major bombings like Omagh? How come that Danzy's theory isn't widely reported? Is it just because that theory is unsubstantiated?

Danzy

Dubh Linn wrote: »

So, no more major bombings like Omagh? How come that Danzy's theory isn't widely reported? Is it just because that theory is unsubstantiated?

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gitzy16v

Dubh Linn wrote: »

So, no more major bombings like Omagh? How come that Danzy's theory isn't widely reported? Is it just because that theory is unsubstantiated?

What do you think....come on Dubh Linn your full of questions but no opinion on the whole thing.

Dubh Linn

Do you have a link for the BBC article on this?

Also, is the RIRA as active as they were at the time of Omagh?

Danzy

I'm getting the feeling that your understanding of Irish politics or current affairs, North and South is very limited, that your understanding of Republican politics or those involved, or discussions with them is even more limited. That you chose not to stay up to date with current affairs, news sources or analysis is not done to everyone else who does being in to Internet Conspiracies.

Could you even find Dublin on the map or name a Journalist from say the Irish Times or Belfast Telegraph.

Have you ever even heard of those papers?

Could you find Omagh without an atlas?

Dubh Linn

OK, let's not be smart-arsed here. Of course I know a lot about politics and the media, I'm just asking a few questions is all.

gitzy16v

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Do you have a link for the BBC article on this?

Also, is the RIRA as active as they were at the time of Omagh?

Earlier I gave you a link to the timeline of the investigation....go and read it and stop with this crap.....PLEASE!

gitzy16v

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Do you have a link for the BBC article on this?

Also, is the RIRA as active as they were at the time of Omagh?

EDIT...double post

gitzy16v

Dubh Linn wrote: »

OK, let's not be smart-arsed here. Of course I know a lot about politics and the media, I'm just asking a few questions is all.

You are the only smart-arse here...asking stupid questions about car thiefs etc

Dubh Linn

OK, everyone needs to keep a cool head here. This discussion has gone from A to Z in the space of a day.

I'm just very curious about the whole case.

Dubh Linn

How were those q's stupid? It's mere curiosity.

gitzy16v

Dubh Linn wrote: »

OK, everyone needs to keep a cool head here. This discussion has gone from A to Z in the space of a day.

I'm just very curious about the whole case.

Then read up about it and stop picking everyones explanation of the facts(well known) apart.....good luck.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

We dont need IS, we have our own gangs in this country as is providing all the terror we need.
dublin is full of junkies, homeless people and thieves.
The odds are if IS planned something for dublin , they would be robbed on their way to execute that plan.

Danzy

Xander Cool Tie wrote: »

We dont need IS, we have our own gangs in this country as is providing all the terror we need.
dublin is full of junkies, homeless people and thieves.
The odds are if IS planned something for dublin , they would be robbed on their way to execute that plan.

Lol.

Some more contention for the thread.

An ISIS suspect coming to attack would be show by the Kinahans thinking it was a Hutch import. :cool::p

Dubh Linn

Because we're neutral, I think an attack would be less likely.

Does anyone agree/disagree?

Widdershins

Danzy wrote: »

Not very likely, given how heavily infiltrated they are, same as back then, and especially the Omagh team.

Nor is there an appetite for it, even in dissident circles, the big bomb idea ended with Omagh.

It's an interesting topic that should probably have its own thread.

Wasn't there a large stockpile of fertiliser seized from a remote farm only last year?

tomwaterford

Widdershins wrote: »

It's an interesting topic that should probably have its own thread.

Wasn't there a large stockpile of fertiliser seized from a remote farm only last year?

Surly it's acceptable for a farmer to have fertiliser??? :pac:

PARlance

tomwaterford wrote: »

Surly it's acceptable for a farmer to have fertiliser??? :pac:

It was a wind farm.

Atoms for Peace

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Because we're neutral, I think an attack would be less likely.

Does anyone agree/disagree?

Neutral like Sweden.

caff

Ferrari3600 wrote: »

I'm not arsed, and if the OECD stats are from the AGS, I wouldn't trust them.

Commonsense suggests we are much higher, unfortunately.

But, hey, never mind, youse got your pay increase.

They're not, I didn't I don't work for them I work for a bank but hey it suits your conspiracy so you wont believe me.

GoneHome

I live in a very rural part of Ireland but would be in Dublin about three times a year for varying reasons and I have to say it's one thing that always comes into the back of mind when I'm up there that if Ireland is to be a target by IS it would be in Dublin, so I'm never really comfortable in the city and always glad to get back home.

caff

GoneHome wrote: »

I live in a very rural part of Ireland but would be in Dublin about three times a year for varying reasons and I have to say it's one thing that always comes into the back of mind when I'm up there that if Ireland is to be a target by IS it would be in Dublin, so I'm never really comfortable in the city and always glad to get back home.

Definitely, airport large international sporting event or a high profile conference. The organisations would be media savey homework done and looking for maximum exposure. No point in aiming for anywhere else in the country.

K.Flyer

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Because we're neutral, I think an attack would be less likely.

Does anyone agree/disagree?

Anything is possible, you have no idea what goes on in some people's heads.
All it takes is something to tip them over the edge and who knows what could happen.
It could be a lone wolf scenario or an "organised" group.
As for being neutral, yeah right.

The Oort Cloud

I.S use Ireland as a base, because of the difficulty in deporting them and our lax laws. this is why we will not be affected so much. Britain is a major target and it will get worse there in the coming years unfortunately. The Irish government are really in no state to say we are capable of dealing with a terrorist attack, sure look at the HSE crisis. Then you have too many unarmed gardai with them not going to the attack location because they are unarmed., and have the many thousands of unarmed gardai lately or for decades been in a training situation to deal with a major crisis like a terrorist attack even from just 4/5 Kalashnikov lunatic terrorists. Ye can't just take them down with your batton in a localized crisis.

We are wide open, I mean 'wide open' to an I.S attack. Will it happen though, well probably not seeing that they use Ireland as a base, who would blow their own base up and disrupt the underground network.


Ireland isn't the goldilocks zone of utopia, we all need to be aware of the serious possability of an attack happening. Would you rather have local armed gardai that would be fully willing to take out a few terrorists and saving possibly your family's life, or would you rather keep to the status quo and gardai afraid to interviene and no protection for themselves against persons that have body bombs and serious fire-power. Any sane person without the armoured tools would run the opposite way.

dublinman1990

It is a very difficult question to answer for me wholeheartedly because one has to do rigorous research of well documented facts on the subject & also avoid looking at internet conspiracy theories to make the outcome a reality.

For one thing; the amount of refugees coming into Ireland are very consistent because Irish people do tend to be more sympathetic towards them. The reason for that is because Ireland is taking in refugees on a voluntary basis because the EU had made agreements with their member states to have a mass relocation of refugees across their bloc.

http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-refugees-2-2982893-Sep2016/

http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-refugee-asylum-seeker-numbers-2016-3077058-Nov2016/

frillyleaf

We allow us military use in Shannon increases our chances of being attacked in my opinion.

In my eyes we are not neutral because of this. We are are facilitators.....

Dubh Linn

Can they not charge someone over Omagh? Why/why not?

tomwaterford

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Can they not charge someone over Omagh? Why/why not?

Have you fallen on your head,you asked already and been replied to

What are you playing at?

Dubh Linn

Because I didn't think the Gardaí or the RUC would let something like the murder of 31 people lie? What were THEY playing at?
Jesus, if you shoplift a packet of Polo Mints or go 1 km over the speed limit on a desolated country road you'd be hung, drawn and quartered, but if you detonate a car bomb and kill people you get a warning? That's the way I'm perceiving it here.

I knew they were bad, but really, they can't be that bad, can they?

People were arrested.
I think you should start another thread.

tomwaterford

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Because I didn't think the Gardaí or the RUC would let something like the murder of 31 people lie? What were THEY playing at?
Jesus, if you shoplift a packet of Polo Mints or go 1 km over the speed limit on a desolated country road you'd be hung, drawn and quartered, but if you detonate a car bomb and kill people you get a warning? That's the way I'm perceiving it here.

I knew they were bad, but really, they can't be that bad, can they?

All this has been explained to you though


Asking the same thing over and over and expecting different answers is pointless?



Unless you have some evidence to bring to the table to force the situation,it'll not change?

Dubh Linn

Yes, I agree. We're getting off topic here. Right then so, back to the stats, the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland, which, to be is very surprising because I thought with our neutrality and all that jazz we would be a pointless target. But, now people are saying Ireland would be a soft target?

Just how easy would it be to attack ROI, and what would the response be?

tomwaterford

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Yes, I agree. We're getting off topic here. Right then so, back to the stats, the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland, which, to be is very surprising because I thought with our neutrality and all that jazz we would be a pointless target. But, now people are saying Ireland would be a soft target?

Just how easy would it be to attack ROI, and what would the response be?

Your the one who laboured the point about the Omagh bombing tbf?



Given the highly technical and skilled nature of IS attacks-driving trucks into crowds :rolleyes:


I'd imagine it's a case of whoever carrying out the attacks deciding when/where?..the chances of stopping it,short of slim to none

Dubh Linn

Who would respond though, the ERU, the Rangers, who? And would they do a good job at handling the situation?

flazio

In my opinion, of course an attack could happen here but in reality, what would it achieve?
There is very little media coverage here so it's unlikely to be headline news across CNN, BBC World News, Euronews etc. Therefore no one outside of Ireland would actually notice, defeating the purpose So called Islamic State would be looking for.
I do not fear any immigrants or refugees because they might be terrorists. That's like saying back in the 80s and 90s every Irish immigrant to other countries should be shunned because they could be IRA, or any Catalan Spainard should be kicked out because they could be ETA. Sounds ridiculous because it is.

dav3

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Yes, I agree. We're getting off topic here. Right then so, back to the stats, the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland, which, to be is very surprising because I thought with our neutrality and all that jazz we would be a pointless target. But, now people are saying Ireland would be a soft target?

Just how easy would it be to attack ROI, and what would the response be?

As the person who started this thread and setup the poll, you've gone from...

Could a terror attack happen in Ireland? (in your thread title)

to

Do you think IS could be attacked by IS? (in your anonymous poll question)

to now

the majority of boards users think there is going to be an IS hit on Ireland.


Do you need to redo your poll? Perhaps add something about Omagh in there.

Hey i only just noticed the change in the poll.
That's a completely different question to the one i answered OP.
Are you just trying to get the results to suit you or what?

Anyone know can i take back my vote???!

Dubh Linn

I don't understand. The poll is the same, the pollster (me) has not changed it, and I mentioned Omagh because it was a serious terror attack.

Noddyholder

Xander Cool Tie wrote: »

We dont need IS, we have our own gangs in this country as is providing all the terror we need.
dublin is full of junkies, homeless people and thieves.
The odds are if IS planned something for dublin , they would be robbed on their way to execute that plan.

Are you six .:rolleyes: You can type very well for such a young age,Just a few improvements in other areas, but all with time. well done.

I would have thought the next obvious attack in this part of the world would be England again, but not in some area of high alert like London but a smaller town, possibly more northern, a Doncaster or Darlington.

dav3

Dubh Linn wrote: »

I don't understand. The poll is the same, the pollster (me) has not changed it, and I mentioned Omagh because it was a serious terror attack.

Some of your questions have ranged from bizarre to extremely worrying.

Someone asking could there be an attack, where the best place for an attack would be, response times and ability to respond from counterterrorism units.

These questions would get you on a watch list in most countries. Actually, better safe than sorry when it comes to terrorism as I've learned from this thread, I've just reported you to the relevant authorities.

Dubh Linn

Ah come on now!

dav3

Dubh Linn wrote: »

Ah come on now!

That's exactly what a terrorist would say after he's been found out.

For all we know, you could be one of those al-qaeda lads looking for a weak spot. Or is it ISIS? I can't keep up with who the latest bogeyman is these days.

Dubh Linn

You're not making an arse of sense.

Noddyholder

Dubh Linn wrote: »

You're not making an arse of sense.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:

Noddyholder

I love after hours ...

Dubh Linn

OMG.

Sofiztikated

To be fair, you've all but asked "How do I get away with making a car bomb"

1eg0a3xv7b82of

Noddyholder wrote: »

Are you six .:rolleyes: You can type very well for such a young age,Just a few improvements in other areas, but all with time. well done.

is this what grooming looks like.