US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

Nettle Soup

Deleted User wrote: »

BY the way, this is all possible from a Super Solar flare also and we dodged a recent massive one closely but a super flare ? it can happen in this time of very low solar activity, it happened in the late 1800's and would be devastating today only globally.

Please list all your worries by severity/priority.

lol

No 1 Nth Korea.

Nettle Soup

Deleted User wrote: »

No 1 Nth Korea.

My #1 worry is hitting 10,000 steps today on the Fitbit.

4068ac1elhodqr

The EMP thing is interesting, and Rocketman™ specifically actually alluded to this, in one of his recent fire&ashes type statements.
A very high burst could 'theoretically affect' an entire continent, to what extent is somewhat unknown.

There was no recent coronal mass ejections that compare to the big one that directly affected Canada back in 1859, if it happened again it could cause very widespread technological disruption, there was some very close misses back in 2012 and 1989, but not direct impacts.

archer22

I don't see Orangutan man lasting very long...there was dismay in the UN at his childish ranting and raving, only Netanyahu and his ugly wife were smiling and clapping...which pretty much says it all.
Even in much of the American media and comments the words "Fool" "dumb" and "embarrassing" kept popping up.

I think it's getting nearer to a stage where it's American's themselves who will take out Trump..one way or the other.

I said we just missed a very large flare, not one that will cause this level of damage.

I think the EMP test the U.S military did in the (50's I think it were ) even surprised them as to the effects that they deem would cause extreme chaos today with all the electronics and the electric grid.

It's a very real possibility and a very scary one. Should the U.S wait for a real test to be carried out and see how much destruction it actually causes ?

4068ac1elhodqr

Deleted User wrote: »

I said we just missed a very large flare, not one that will cause this level of damage.

I think the EMP test the U.S military did in the (50's I think it were ) even surprised them as to the effects that they deem would cause extreme chaos today with all the electronics and the electric grid.

It's a very real possibility and a very scary one. Should the U.S wait for a real test to be carried out and see how much destruction it actually causes ?

If it was large scale direct SME the damage would be immense, fiscally and later with a human costs as the cogs of utilities stop turning. Typically 3mths to re-build and replace expensive transformer units.

The US is unlikely to see a successful attack currently as it would be spotted in time, however another couple of years, who knows. Imagine it would be near impossible to stop dozens of launches each with decoys and multiple heads.

Maybe now is a good opportunity to start building and selling consumer Faraday cages up on ebay or similar.

fxotoole

I'm sure the USA has hardened the critical parts of their grid against solar flares / EMP

DinkyDinosaur

archer22 wrote: »

I don't see Orangutan man lasting very long...there was dismay in the UN at his childish ranting and raving, only Netanyahu and his ugly wife were smiling and clapping...which pretty much says it all.
Even in much of the American media and comments the words "Fool" "dumb" and "embarrassing" kept popping up.

I think it's getting nearer to a stage where it's American's themselves who will take out Trump..one way or the other.

It's funny i watched a propaganda documentary last night about some young man who attempted to assassinate Trump. Pure emotional manipulation. I was watching thinking that they really don't want anyone getting any ideas. They tried to make the boy out to be insane for contemplating such an act. Implying that anyone contemplating such an act would have to be insane. I'm quite sure a lot of sane people have at least thought about it. They don't want anyone getting any fancy notions. I suppose time will tell who the crazy ones are.

Nettle Soup

Evie Big Troop wrote: »

The EMP thing is interesting

But but but.....Neo is the One!

ohnonotgmail

DinkyDinosaur wrote: »

It's funny i watched a propaganda documentary last night about some young man who attempted to assassinate Trump. Pure emotional manipulation. I was watching thinking that they really don't want anyone getting any ideas. They tried to make the boy out to be insane for contemplating such an act. Implying that anyone contemplating such an act would have to be insane. I'm quite sure a lot of sane people have at least thought about it. They don't want anyone getting any fancy notions. I suppose time will tell who the crazy ones are.

the kid has a history of mental health problems. they didnt just make that up because he tried to kill trump.

Gatling

fxotoole wrote: »

I'm sure the USA has hardened the critical parts of their grid against solar flares / EMP

We found out a few years ago what happened when a single power station went down ,alot of total blackouts from Canada to new York and further afield.

It's debatable if they have core infrastructure protected to any real degree

DinkyDinosaur

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the kid has a history of mental health problems. they didnt just make that up because he tried to kill trump.

And his mother who's going around doing interviews just let him go off to the US on his own? Something smells fishy. It's all smoke and mirrors.

archer22

It's beyond stupid that Trump keeps on about North Korea and Iran being "greatest threats to the world"...(they are not and are no threat to anybody if left alone).

Meanwhile Trump denies the greatest and very real threat to the world..ie global warming and climate change...even while it is devastating huge tracts of his own country and bringing death and misery to his people.

No one has a grid capable of resisting EMP or Solar flare, it would be impossible.

As for the rest of electronics that are not shielded , they'll be fried and everything from toaster to car will be dead.

What about nuclear plants ? yes, they need lots of pumped water and the generators won't work...... that's probably the scariest of all. How do you get to repair reactors with big gaping holes in them when practically no machinery with a microchip will work ? how do you clean up ? you can't.

I think people don't understand the scale of such a disaster should some loonie successfully launch an EMP attack.

Ha, it just struck me, remember the movie with Tom Cruise ? what was it called again ? the one with the bolts of lightning and Aliens that came out of the ground? that will give you a tiny glimpse of EMP.

Arsemageddon

Deleted User wrote: »

Ha, it just struck me, remember the movie with Tom Cruise ? what was it called again ? the one with the bolts of lightning and Aliens that came out of the ground? that will give you a tiny glimpse of EMP.

I think that was Far and Away.

4068ac1elhodqr

Deleted User wrote: »

No one has a grid capable of resisting EMP or Solar flare, it would be impossible.

As for the rest of electronics that are not shielded , they'll be fried and everything from toaster to car will be dead.

What about nuclear plants ? yes, they need lots of pumped water and the generators won't work...... that's probably the scariest of all. How do you get to repair reactors with big gaping holes in them when practically no machinery with a microchip will work ? how do you clean up ? you can't.

I think people don't understand the scale of such a disaster should some loonie successfully launch an EMP attack.

Ha, it just struck me, remember the movie with Tom Cruise ? what was it called again ? the one with the bolts of lightning and Aliens that came out of the ground? that will give you a tiny glimpse of EMP.

It's certainly a risk, and Rocketman has alluded to it very clearly.

Testimony to the US Cong EMPCommission stated that in the event of a massive EMP on the US (multiple), only 10% survival rate after 18 months due to famine, disease, and societal breakdown.

So not immediate as such, more like taking someones shoes instead of attacking them, then leaving them in a desert of quartz and flint stones.

Something like that would put global warming in the shade, the odd storm or 0.2 degree increase wouldn't get mentioned ever again. Japan & SK are also more worried about sudden 2million degree heat increases than single decimal places.

Ipso

Arsemageddon wrote: »

I think that was Far and Away.

Begorrah, you're a corker.

Gatling

I wonder when Iran gets on the wrong end of a military campaign ,The US opened up a permanent base in Israel yesterday supposedly for air Defences and Israel has come into 2 stealth aircraft too,

Interesting times ahead for Korea and the middle East

Nettle Soup

Arsemageddon wrote: »

I think that was Far and Away.

No no no, twas Castaway.

Nettle Soup

Gatling wrote: »

I wonder when Iran gets on the wrong end of a military campaign ,The US opened up a permanent base in Israel yesterday supposedly for air Defences and Israel has come into 2 stealth aircraft too,

Interesting times ahead for Korea and the middle East

When did the Middle East not have interesting times?

Ipso

Nettle Soup wrote: »

When did the Middle East not have interesting times?

By interesting, you mean horrible?

Subzero3

As long as the Saudis keep hiding behind the west for protection the middle east will always be in trouble. Sunni Islam is the problem, well the Saudi sponsored interpretation of it.

North Korea is a good distraction for the failures in the middle east. Once the west/media war machine fool people into dying in a war against someone else (Iran) perhaps NK will be back off the agenda.

Gatling

Subzero3 wrote: »

North Korea is a good distraction for the failures in the middle east. Once the west/media war machine fool people into dying in a war against someone else (Iran) perhaps NK will be back off the agenda.

Not really no ,if the media war machine wanted a war Syria and Iran would be already be happening

archer22

Gatling wrote: »

Not really no ,if the media war machine wanted a war Syria and Iran would be already be happening

No it wouldn't they need some kind of excuse, otherwise their people won't buy it.
Even more so now after the faked 'evidence' used to attack Iraq was exposed.

As powerful as the western brainwashing media is, people are still reluctant when it comes to sending their sons off to die...and a bit wary now after thousands of them died in Iraq for lies.

Yeah they should instead do nothing and allow the potential for far more devastating consequences where many, many more people would die.

Just see how it pans out and hope and pray nothing happens, meanwhile North Korea develop much more sophisticated weapons and much more devastating Nukes.

If you think Western Brainwashing is bad you should hear the English Broadcasts from North Korea on Shortwave radio !

The biggest brainwashing by western media now is , Trump is bad, Trump hates Women, Trump is the Devil, Trump hates Black People , unreal !

BillyBobBS

Nettle Soup wrote: »

My #1 worry is hitting 10,000 steps today on the Fitbit.

Then you live a very sheltered life, obvious from your postings anyway.

ilkhanid

archer22 wrote: »

Kim will still be around long after Trump's old mangy carcass has rotted into the ground.

Considering Trump's age that's not much of a prediction. Sure I'll still be around long after Trump's old mangy carcass has rotted into the ground.

Gringo180 wrote: »

America suplied the Taliban with military hardware they hardly gave a **** about the Afghan civilians.

The Mujahadeen were trained in bomb-making, sabotage and urban guerrilla warfare in Afghan camps the CIA helped to set up in the 80s.

The Mujahadeen and the Taliban are two different groups, decades apart. The Taliban didn't exist until 1995.

Eyes Down Field

I'm getting a little closer to the action.Taking a two week holiday in Tokyo, flying out tomorrow.

Kim Jong Un. 'You'll do Nuttin'

aloyisious

What are the capabilities of Anti-Air missiles on US Warships [escort and other] to shoot down incoming? Could such A/A missiles reach up and destroy ICBM's launched from NK while they were over NK territory or over open ocean?