US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

BillyBobBS

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

I'm getting a little closer to the action.Taking a two week holiday in Tokyo, flying out tomorrow.

Kim Jong Un. 'You'll do Nuttin'

Good luck.

WoollyRedHat

Marge, change the channel.

4068ac1elhodqr

aloyisious wrote: »

What are the capabilities of Anti-Air missiles on US Warships [escort and other] to shoot down incoming? Could such A/A missiles reach up and destroy ICBM's launched from NK while they were over NK territory or over open ocean?

Incoming or outgoing from nk? Guessing due to velocity and altitude factors, they can really only take them out on either the way up or the way down. Then again, wasn't there once something called 'Starwars' back in Regan's time.

The EMP type event doesn't actually need to go down (have any re-entry capability) just be at optimal xy location up around 250miles.

To neutralise on nk soil would be a bit like throwing water on a pan fire, on the other hand to wait until the last minute, might require a very good pair of sunglasses on standby.

Gatling

aloyisious wrote: »

What are the capabilities of Anti-Air missiles on US Warships [escort and other] to shoot down incoming? Could such A/A missiles reach up and destroy ICBM's launched from NK while they were over NK territory or over open ocean?

Probably depends on the vessel type and what missle capabilities on board

The arleigh burke class vessels have the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System installed and Several are in the region ,
They should be in theory be able to intercept icbms fairly quickly

archer22

archer22 wrote: »

It's beyond stupid that Trump keeps on about North Korea and Iran being "greatest threats to the world"...(they are not and are no threat to anybody if left alone).

Meanwhile Trump denies the greatest and very real threat to the world..ie global warming and climate change...even while it is devastating huge tracts of his own country and bringing death and misery to his people.

Anthropogenic warming is complete and utter BS.

If we were seeing record blizzards the Media would be saying "it's weather doesn't mean anything" and It's the same with hurricanes.

And Trump does not deny climate change, only the part where Man is causing it.

Climate change is a hoax to get us to accept the New World Order. Before you think I'm luny tunes when I say New World Order, there have been many references to this publicly , even George Bush Snr, Where he said something like we will have to accept it, can't remember the exact quote.

Evie Big Troop

Evie Big Troop wrote: »

It's certainly a risk, and Rocketman has alluded to it very clearly.

Testimony to the US Cong EMPCommission stated that in the event of a massive EMP on the US (multiple), only 10% survival rate after 18 months due to famine, disease, and societal breakdown.

So not immediate as such, more like taking someones shoes instead of attacking them, then leaving them in a desert of quartz and flint stones.

Something like that would put global warming in the shade, the odd storm or 0.2 degree increase wouldn't get mentioned ever again. Japan & SK are also more worried about sudden 2million degree heat increases than single decimal places.

Absolutely.

A lot of People have no clue about the potential devastation of an EMP strike which is far deadlier than any ground strike, though powerful enough and a ground strike is deadly too EMP causes massive devastation though not structurally and won't emit high levels of radiation.

Think of a modern country or continent suddenly plunged into darkness or back to a time pre electric, pre microchip and you get the picture. How would you survive ?

All of a sudden planes start to nosedive, hit the ground, Nuclear reactors loose power and the reactor looses cooling, reactor gets so hot that any water in there is turned to hydrogen which goes bang, can't get rescue or emergency plan together. No clean up team can get to site, no equipment will work to stop radiation leaks, probably the scariest of all scenarios and probably worth shutting down all U.S reactors while this threat is real, they will take several months to cool down but at least they will get the chance.

Millions starve because food can't be produced or brought to stores.

The difference between North Korea and Iraq is that North Korea have actually demonstrated a few Nuclear tests and missile tests.

Gatling

Gatling wrote: »

Probably depends on the vessel type and what missle capabilities on board

The arleigh burke class vessels have the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System installed and Several are in the region ,
They should be in theory be able to intercept icbms fairly quickly

Yes but the potential of fallout is serious if much damage is caused to the warhead.

It would be some time before we'd get any news out of the U.S, the only hope being any shortwave transmitters or ham radio operators to relay information as they do during natural disasters, another reason not to kill MW/SW radio something the E.U is hell bent on doing.

4068ac1elhodqr

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes but the potential of fallout is serious if much damage is caused to the warhead.

It would be some time before we'd get any news out of the U.S, the only hope being any shortwave transmitters or ham radio operators to relay information as they do during natural disasters, another reason not to kill MW/SW radio something the E.U is hell bent on doing.

Agree that Radio (not internet) is more reliable, across all AM/FM/SW/LW/MW bands, cheap and cheerful battery PMR or CB sets might suddenly become handy, DAB would become useless.

All state infrastructure e.g. Dams/PowerStations are all likely already protected from EM (but never 100%). It's non-state and private installations that will all fail.

Anyway let's hope we get past 23 Sept, according to Meade, sure it's only the start of the aul tribulation. Specifically beginning with 'storms/earthquakes/flares' and the like. Thanks to an distant object picked up on the WideiRed-ic5385 on an irregular orbit. Seems to be rather a few of these this week, no?

Gatling

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes but the potential of fallout is serious if much damage is caused to the warhead.

Not really no they don't detonate the warhead they are a kinetic energy weapon ,
They slam into the missle and cause it to break up the warheads stay intact for the most part

There are many who believe we're in the 7 year tribulation period of which most of us will not even know and we will not know the signs.

I do and so do many believe that there are other factors at play to do with climate change such as solar activity, and other types of radiation from the solar system. The universe is always changing and is a very violent place.

Climate change is real but the cause is not Man.

But the Globalists want us to believe in Man made climate change so we will accept the New World Order , everyone will think this new order will save the world and humanity and it's the Antichrist who will be head of this new order so goes another story.

Arsemageddon

Deleted User wrote: »

There are many who believe we're in the 7 year tribulation period of which most of us will not even know and we will not know the signs.

I do and so do many believe that there are other factors at play to do with climate change such as solar activity, and other types of radiation from the solar system. The universe is always changing and is a very violent place.

Climate change is real but the cause is not Man.

But the Globalists want us to believe in Man made climate change so we will accept the New World Order , everyone will think this new order will save the world and humanity and it's the Antichrist who will be head of this new order so goes another story.

Do you really believe that shyte?

Gatling

Gatling wrote: »

Not really no they don't detonate the warhead they are a kinetic energy weapon ,
They slam into the missle and cause it to break up the warheads stay intact for the most part

No it won't detonate , and the warhead might stay in tack, That's a perfect scenario , but it might not and who's to say it can't be remote detonated once it's determined it's about to be intercepted ?

What if two missiles are launched and only one is intercepted ?

If North Korea go back to the negotiating table with clear plans to stop all nuclear weapons and nuclear energy then this is all Trump wants, he does not want any war in his time in office, no one would.

If North Korea refuse what are they supposed to do ? keep listening to threats while they advance their weapons ?

rossie1977

aloyisious wrote: »

What are the capabilities of Anti-Air missiles on US Warships [escort and other] to shoot down incoming? Could such A/A missiles reach up and destroy ICBM's launched from NK while they were over NK territory or over open ocean?

No. ICBMs are launched out of the earths atmosphere and then fall of the target. The last north Korean test saw the missile reach an altitude of more than 1,700 miles. The only defence the us has against ICBMs is THAAD and that's only proven to be 60% successful in test runs. That also only works upon re-entry when missile to close to the us given operational range is only about 150 miles or so. Basically like trying to hit a bullet aimed at your face with another bullet.

Arsemageddon

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Do you really believe that shyte?

Which part ?

I'm open minded. So many people believe in something, they can't all be mad. I mean the alternative is absolute eternal death and I'd rather believe in life after death than eternal death. Shyte or not.

Mind you if the Bible is true then we're pretty much all screwed anyway lol.

But with the predictions in the Bible and the world today, you simply couldn't sit back without considering the possibility.

Arsemageddon

Deleted User wrote: »

Which part ?

I'm open minded. So many people believe in something, they can't all be mad. I mean the alternative is absolute eternal death and I'd rather believe in life after death than eternal death. Shyte or not.

Mind you if the Bible is true then we're pretty much all screwed anyway lol.

But with the predictions in the Bible and the world today, you simply couldn't sit back without considering the possibility.

If your Christian then fair enough, not my thing but each to their own.

I meant the whole climate change being a new world order conspiracy angle.

Arsemageddon

Arsemageddon wrote: »

If your Christian then fair enough, not my thing but each to their own.

I meant the whole climate change being a new world order conspiracy angle.

Well that could be part of the Christian thing you know lol.

But yes it could very well be, there's an awful thirst in this world to control people and to get richer and richer. So I would believe it is highly possible. Even climate gate scandal has to cast some doubt in peoples minds, but because the people in the IPCC claim it was employees joking then that's ok then.

Remember the New world Order has been mentioned by politicians before, Obama, Bush all publicly talked about it . So do I believe climate change could be a hoax to get us to accept it ? sure. What better way than to make us believe something or someone will save the world eah ?

Bed time.....

Hastentoadd

Have been working on java scripting, but new world order, still working on that

Wanderer78

There's some appropriate usernames in tonight!

Manic Moran

rossie1977 wrote: »

No. ICBMs are launched out of the earths atmosphere and then fall of the target. The last north Korean test saw the missile reach an altitude of more than 1,700 miles. The only defence the us has against ICBMs is THAAD and that's only proven to be 60% successful in test runs. That also only works upon re-entry when missile to close to the us given operational range is only about 150 miles or so. Basically like trying to hit a bullet aimed at your face with another bullet.

Three, actually. THAAD is the shorter-ranged one. Maybe four, depending on if they got lucky siting the Patriots. The mid-ranged option is Aegis, and the 'big shield', of which there are not many interceptors, is GMD.

ArchXStanton

Subzero3 wrote: »

As long as the Saudis keep hiding behind the west for protection the middle east will always be in trouble. Sunni Islam is the problem, well the Saudi sponsored interpretation of it.

North Korea is a good distraction for the failures in the middle east. Once the west/media war machine fool people into dying in a war against someone else (Iran) perhaps NK will be back off the agenda.

Iran knows it's next,they ain't no fools...

prinzeugen

rossie1977 wrote: »

Basically like trying to hit a bullet aimed at your face with another bullet.

Proximity.. Just needs to go off near the target. Similar to what Russian used to take down MH17 and how most platforms work.

This stuff is not like a Hollywood film, where they "hit the target" and it is blown to a million bits. Does not happen.

The missile or air to air weapon explodes near the target, killing it, be it a plane or missile.

Nettle Soup

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Then you live a very sheltered life, obvious from your postings anyway.

Wanderer78

Wanderer78 wrote: »

There's some appropriate usernames in tonight!

You think the New World Order is a conspiracy theory then ?

Wanderer78

Deleted User wrote:

You think the New World Order is a conspiracy theory then ?

Welcome back, entertainment for the day! Please, step away from the internet! You 've gone too far into it, it's an amazing resource for all humans but approach with caution, as there's a lot of bull**** on it!

LOL, amazing you never heard mention of the NWO by major world leaders.........

Keep your head in the sand mate if it helps.

Wanderer78

Deleted User wrote: »

LOL, amazing you never heard mention of the NWO by major world leaders.........

Keep your head in the sand mate if it helps.

oh god, please help me today! jim richards uses the term 'global elites' alot, im not fond of the term as it gives a conspiracy type feeling to our global situation, but i think hes fairly close to the truth to whats going on globally

BillyBobBS

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Welcome back, entertainment for the day! Please, step away from the internet! You 've gone too far into it, it's an amazing resource for all humans but approach with caution, as there's a lot of bull**** on it!

As a lot of the posts on here prove.

LOL The first references to the New World Order predate the internet, well as we know it at least. Long before most of us would have had internet.

And those were the exact words "New World Order" Bush said it in the 90's in an interview or was it a public speech, can't remember. That's one instance. Obama even mentioned the New World Order......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxeOG_pZ1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SwWfDJheRA