US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

North Korea outmatches US army by least 10 to 1 with soldiers. North Korea can launch an invasion with 10 million men at the very beginning, America and South Korea roughly only have 700,000 men, the majority of which are South Korean. It will take months for the US army and allies to muster enough troops to counter attack.

The superiority is air power, for the Americans. The North Koreans have manufactured capable missiles and have a capable anti-aircraft system to combat this air threat. It highly advanced anti-air battery can knock down any US aircraft. Cruise missiles not sure?

Stop Will making it up, north Korea can't mobilise 10 million men to invade the south russia can move about 70,000 with about 2 years worth of pre planning in advance ,
China wouldn't be able to either,

And have North Korea air-defenence systems actually been tested at all by anything of note No .
America dominance is obvious against NK

Cheerful Spring

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Lol..... obviously no.... that would be 100% of all military aged males.
It's like saying Ireland can muster a force of 2 million.

But for the lols.... where is your proof of that

Everyone in North Korea has undertaken military training. There is even woman combat units.

BoatMad

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Saddam army was about 70,000 men and the majority ran away and did not want to die for him. And still took about 2 months to take the country. The North Korean army are not going to run away.

actually there was 21 days of combat activity in the 2003 invasion of Iraq

Salam nominally had 1 million men under his control

Social meeeeedia was awash with comments like ( Sadam wont be a push over etc

Military the US is huge unfathomably big to most people, a fully professional body of men and women, not drafted or conscripted ( as in Iraq and NK)

Whatever you think about that nutter , Trump, given the orders the US military would steamroller over NK in a few weeks

Its what happens after that that the US usually completely screws up

Richard Hillman

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Everyone in North Korea has undertaken military training. There is even woman combat units.

Everyone able male in South Korea is also military trained.

Wanderer78

i think some posters need to step away from the internets for a while, theres no nuclear war gonna happen. find yourselves some better hobbies folks, i hear good things about porn!

LordSutch

Not sure it matters how many men either side has, as all the talk is now about the H Bomb & the N Bomb.
Surely how many soldiers either side os totally immaterial.

BoJack Horseman

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Everyone in North Korea has undertaken military training. There is even woman combat units.

Everyone does in Russia to.

But Russia doesn't have an 80 million strong army dumb-dumb.

So, again.... show us this proof of a "10 million man" invasion force.

You can elaborate your proof by showing us the proof of how these 10 million men are transported and fed!
This would require easily a million tonnes of fuel, water and food per week..... more probably

Show us how the boss men are going to do that!

You know.... for the lols

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Stop Will making it up, north Korea can't mobilise 10 million men to invade the south russia can move about 70,000 with about 2 years worth of pre planning in advance ,
China wouldn't be able to either,

And have North Korea air-defenence systems actually been tested at all by anything of note No .
America dominance is obvious against NK

Everyone kids, women, men are trained to fight a future war. Kim has at least 6 to 7 million men reservists, he call up more if needed. He has untold number of women in the army also. He could easily muster half the population of 28 million to fight if needed?

Infini

Regardless of what NK say its the same quality BS as Trump's tweets they're welcome to throw all the threats they want but if they attack first they've guaranteed their own demise. They brought attention on themselves by developing nukes and constantly throwing out threat's to use them. They're now being called out on it.

It's the perfect shytestorm which should've never been allowed to happen by allowing NK nuke's in the first place and it will be costly for everyone if force is needed. The question honestly is will things boil over?

As for their army their numbers are inflated they dont have that many well armed soldiers much of their standing army is malnourished and poorly armed. Most of the threat from the North over the years was from their artillery pointed at civilian SK area and that RoK felt that NK would use literal zerg rush tactics in desperation to cause as much damage as possible.

Cheerful Spring

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Everyone does in Russia to.

But Russia doesn't have an 80 million strong army dumb-dumb.

So, again.... show us this proof of a "10 million man" invasion force.

You can elaborate your proof by showing us the proof of how these 10 million men are transported and fed!
This would require easily a million tonnes of fuel, water and food per week..... more probably

Show us how the boss men are going to do that!

You know.... for the lols

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army look it up 8 million men aged between 15 and 29 can fight, if needed. Does not include women and children and older men can be called upon to fight for Kim also.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Everyone kids, women, men are trained to fight a future war. Kim has at least 6 to 7 million men reservists, he call up more if needed. He has untold number of women in the army also. He could easily muster half the population of 28 million to fight if needed?

BS.

So Kim can bring 37 million men and women to war


,but only have a total population of 25 million

BoatMad

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Everyone kids, women, men are trained to fight a future war. Kim has at least 6 to 7 million men reservists, he call up more if needed. He has untold number of women in the army also. He could easily muster half the population of 28 million to fight if needed?

sure , and he can arm these 28 million , or even transport them anywhere


yeah right

( a) US will have total air superiority

(b) it has virtually untouchable missile launch ability

(c) Its has virtually unlimited access to military "materiel"

this isnt an issue that NK can fight the US

anyway its never going to happen , Trumo is just diverting attention from his failures , the NFL thing is the same thing as NK

Cheerful Spring

LordSutch wrote: »

Not sure it matters how many men either side has, as all the talk is now about the H Bomb & the N Bomb.
Surely how many soldiers either side os totally immaterial.

North Korea may overwhelm defenses. A smaller force even with superior hardware can not stop the superior number force

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

BS.

So Kim can bring 37 million men and women to war


,but only have a total population of 25 million

Where you getting the 37 million from. 25 million+ is North Korean population. Find me a military analyst who says the North can not muster millions of men to fight, if you can post it?

BoatMad

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

North Korea may overwhelm defenses. A smaller force even with superior hardware can not stop the superior number force

The road to Basra disagrees

BoJack Horseman

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army look it up

I did kiddo...

But you haven't given us any proof yet.

- Show us how your idols are going to transport 10,000,000 men south of the border..... that is around a million vehicles needed, hundreds of millions of gallons of surplus diesel, thousands of fuel trucks and tens of thousands of mechanics to just maintain your transport armada.

- Show us how they will provide the 100,000+ tonnes of food, water and fuel every day during your fantasy invasion.

And for the kids in the audience, show us these tweens fixing bayonets and reading for your fight.

(pro tip: You should recognise at this point you have bitten off more than you chew, the smart thing to do would be to stop making things up)

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Find me a military analyst who says the North can not muster millions of men to fight, if you can post it?

Can't find any information that says they can

Cheerful Spring

BoatMad wrote: »

The road to Basra disagrees

It not hard to destroy vehicles travelling on an open road in a desert area. North Korea is like Vietnam on steroids. The army lives underground and has prepared it's facilities for air bombardment from the air. Even the Americans can not continue bombing all day.

Cheerful Spring

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

I did kiddo...

But you haven't given us any proof yet.

- Show us how your idols are going to transport 10,000,000 men south of the border..... that is around a million vehicles needed, hundreds of millions of gallons of surplus diesel, thousands of fuel trucks and tens of thousands of mechanics to just maintain your transport armada.

- Show us how they will provide the 100,000+ tonnes of food, water and fuel every day during your fantasy invasion.

And for the kids in the audience, show us these tweens fixing bayonets and reading for your fight.

(pro tip: You should recognise at this point you have bitten off more than you chew, the smart thing to do would be to stop making things up)

How they feeding their population right now? What is hard about giving a North Korean, who has military training a gun to fight? South Korea is not some place thousands of miles away, they are fighting right next door. They can travel by foot or use underground tunnels, to get to where they are needed.

BoatMad

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

It not hard to destroy vehicles travelling on an open road in a desert area. North Korea is like Vietnam on steroids. The army lives underground and has prepared it's facilities for air bombardment from the air. Even the Americans can not continue bombing all day.

all thi sort of stuff was said on social meeeedia about Sadams army , its proved useless in the face of a modern professional military

Vietnam is in the past , The US learned, its military is configured entirely differently and Vietnam was fought with one hand tied behind its back ( and press photographers looking over its shoulders ) That will not happen today

BoJack Horseman

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

How they feeding their population right now

Lad, you just don't get it.

They don't eat rocks.
And bringing a flask of tae and ham sandwiches for the afternoon isn't going to cut it.

So, again... prove that your 10 million of your boys can be sustained with 3 meals a day for months on end..

Your fantasy invasion isn't going so well thus far now that you have already acknowledge that these 10 million men and children soldiers are going to have to walk completely unprotected into the South.

So, literally walking unprotected to victory?

C'mon lad.
No reader here is stupid enough to buy this foolishness.

But I'm happy to keep it going.
Show us the Nork's ability to provide 20 million meals a day to millions of people over hundreds of kms & the hundreds of millions of liters of water.

Cheerful Spring

BoatMad wrote: »

all thi sort of stuff was said on social meeeedia about Sadams army , its proved useless in the face of a modern professional military

Vietnam is in the past , The US learned, its military is configured entirely differently and Vietnam was fought with one hand tied behind its back ( and press photographers looking over its shoulders ) That will not happen today

Iraq and America had two wars, which one you talking about? The first Gulf war lasted 7 months and this when his forces had some ability to fight back. Saddam army was not prepared for air bombardment. From the studies i have read online North Korea has the capability to defend itself against air attack by planes.

4068ac1elhodqr

One photojournalist managed to get some pictures recently (below, his credit is on one of the images).

Some of the roads in nk look like a struggle to walk on, food looks scarce (see young worker), and those animal propelled carts look just a tad wobbly.
Least not forget they'd have to cross 'no mans land' to greet the other side.

Cheerful Spring

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Lad, you just don't get it.

They don't eat rocks.
And bringing a flask of tae and ham sandwiches for the afternoon isn't going to cut it.

So, again... prove that your 10 million of your boys can be sustained with 3 meals a day for months on end..

Your fantasy invasion isn't going so well thus far now that you have already acknowledge that these 10 million men and children soldiers are going to have to walk completely unprotected into the South.

So, literally walking unprotected to victory?

C'mon lad.
No reader here is stupid enough to buy this foolishness.

But I'm happy to keep it going.
Show us the Nork's ability to provide 20 million meals a day to millions of people over hundreds of kms & the hundreds of millions of liters of water.

North Korea only had 200,000 men at the start of the Korean war and they held their own for nearly 3 years. If Kim call upon millions of men to fight for him, a huge force, even the South Koreans and America may have trouble dealing with this?

BoatMad

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Iraq and America had two wars, which one you talking about? The first Gulf war lasted 7 months and this when his forces had some ability to fight back. Saddam army was not prepared for air bombardment. From the studies i have read online North Korea has the capability to defend itself against air attack by planes.

the military activity associated with Iraqi Freedom!, lasted 21 days ( thats three weeks ) , I lost a bet as I had said 6 weeks

The US can act with impunity over NK in the air, the technology level of the US in the air is streets ahead

The NK air defense is largely based around outdated soviet era missiles -75, S-125, S-200 , with some ( limited number ) of more sophisticated KN-06 systems

All these systems are easily targeted by anti-SAM systems , most are fixed or only partially mobile

Cheerful Spring

Evie Big Troop wrote: »

One photojournalist managed to get some pictures recently (below, his credit is on one of the images).

Some of the roads in nk look like a struggle to walk on, food looks scarce (see young worker), and those animal propelled carts look just a tad wobbly.
Least not forget they'd have to cross 'no mans land' to greet the other side.

Look like a town in Eastern Europe or bad rural town in Ireland.

BoatMad

Saddam army was not prepared for air bombardment.

It wasn't prepared for any type of military combat , ground , air ,water etc

McMurphy

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Everyone kids, women, men are trained to fight a future war. Kim has at least 6 to 7 million men reservists, he call up more if needed. He has untold number of women in the army also. He could easily muster half the population of 28 million to fight if needed?

He can barely feed his people in normal circumstances, feeding and prepping them for a war might prove challenging.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Iraq and America had two wars, which one you talking about? The first Gulf war lasted 7 months and this when his forces had some ability to fight back. Saddam army was not prepared for air bombardment. From the studies i have read online North Korea has the capability to defend itself against air attack by planes.

Iraq had one of the most sophisticated air defence systems in the world ,NK doesn't america has repeatedly shown that by flying the length and breadth of NK for 60 years uncontested Everything from the U2 , Various SR 71s and then stealth aircraft .

4068ac1elhodqr

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Look like a town in Eastern Europe or bad rural town in Ireland.

Ahh now, the odd pothole in Mayo, can't compare to that mud walk of shame. :pac:
Estonia has the fastest internet in the Europe, am pretty sure their young wans would be at school, and not digging for root vegetables...