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US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41409878
    Mr Warmbier said when they saw his son he was "moving around, and jerking violently, making these howling and inhuman sounds".
    His head was shaved, he was blind and deaf, his arms and legs were "totally deformed" and he had a huge scar on his foot, he said. It "looked like someone had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged his bottom teeth".
    "Otto was systematically tortured and intentionally injured by Kim and his regime. This was no accident," said Mr Warmbier.

    Jesus Christ that is horrific!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,389 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41409878



    Jesus Christ that is horrific!!
    But it's been disputed by the coroner who examined the body.
    From the same story you linked to
    The Cincinnati Enquirer said it had obtained a copy of a coroner's report on Otto Warmbier, based on an external examination, which revealed several small scars but nothing which indicated torture.
    The paper quoted the Hamilton County coroner as saying Mr Warmbier's teeth were "natural and in good repair" and that he appeared to have died from brain damage caused by a lack of oxygen.

    We need to be extremely careful about propaganda as tensions escalate before a possible war.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41409878



    Jesus Christ that is horrific!!

    Awful, truly awful. What a thug and scumbag Kim and his regime is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr



    Haven't read the link (can only imagine), but surprised that nonsense of a website waterfordwhispers is still in existence. Occasionally vaguely funny, but more often than not, a very daft Adwords revenue stream.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Satire is news again


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭Curly Judge


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41409878



    Jesus Christ that is horrific!!

    As part of the armistice in 1953, the North Koreans pledged to hand back 60,000 South Korean prisoners of war.
    They handed back none.
    Furthermore, they deported them all to the North Eastern part of the country where presumably any survivors live today.
    I'd say they have enjoyed an idyllic existence.
    Tea and toast served in bed every morning, I have no doubt?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Speaking of NK, it seems BTCUSD has taken a bit of a surge past 24hrs 5%+, Breaking $4,000.
    One guess would be that Kim is moving assets to CC (high volumes across Jap, SK, US etc).

    5,000 is possible, and some think it could tap out at 6,000 <1mth, but...

    Screen_Shot_2017-09-27_at_19.02.19.png

    ...strangely gold is down, and one very good Oracle I follow, opposes all analysts forecasts and predicts a BTCN exposé with price crash.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,609 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Speaking of NK, it seems BTCUSD has taken a bit of a surge past 24hrs 5%+, Breaking $4,000.
    One guess would be that Kim is moving assets to CC (high volumes across Jap, SK, US etc).

    5,000 is possible, and some think it could tap out at 6,000 <1mth, but...

    Screen_Shot_2017-09-27_at_19.02.19.png

    ...strangely gold is down, and one very good Oracle I follow, opposes all analysts forecasts and predicts a BTCN exposé with price crash.

    We are pleased to announce that the next take-off from Pyongyang, NK may be diplomatic not intercontinental.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,795 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Speaking of NK, it seems BTCUSD has taken a bit of a surge past 24hrs 5%+, Breaking $4,000.
    One guess would be that Kim is moving assets to CC (high volumes across Jap, SK, US etc).

    5,000 is possible, and some think it could tap out at 6,000 <1mth, but...

    Screen_Shot_2017-09-27_at_19.02.19.png

    ...strangely gold is down, and one very good Oracle I follow, opposes all analysts forecasts and predicts a BTCN exposé with price crash.

    So...does this mean there is going to be a war or not


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    bilston wrote: »
    So...does this mean there is going to be a war or not

    Nothing is going to tell you that until the war actually happens. Wait and watch the news... you'll know when the news reports start chattering about military strikes actually occurring. Everything else is just gossip. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    bilston wrote: »
    So...does this mean there is going to be a war or not

    The BTCN surge could mean various things:

    i) (Like gold), cryptos are favored by those who have a deep distrust of fiat currency, or paper money.
    ii) It's blockchain technology, an electronic ledger that cannot be altered.
    iii) Every transaction is anonymous and peer-to-peer.
    iv) The system is entirely decentralized and democratic.
    v) No monetary authority can see who owns what and where money is flowing.

    If Kim's looking for a safe-haven for value (on the back of the meal-tokens of his millions of subjects), he can either buy gold or this, his favourite CC:BTCN. (Also his favorite method of ransomware payment). So maybe too, update your av-software.

    If it, or gold continues on 5-10% day surges, maybe invest in a hard-hat and iodine if traveling that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Thankfully its all gone very quiet in the last few days. The calm before the storm, or have Trump & Kim Jong got it out of their systems?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Thankfully its all gone very quiet in the last few days. The calm before the storm, or have Trump & Kim Jong got it out of their systems?

    Doubt it expect something to happen in October.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,795 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    http://news.sky.com/story/scenes-of-carnage-if-north-korea-crisis-escalates-into-war-british-report-warns-11057801

    A British military think tank, which according to the report represents the views of the British military, is pretty blunt in its view that Britain should "disown" the United States in the case of a first strike by Trump. Hopefully that view is shared by the politicians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭flaneur


    Probably not. The Tories are only concerned about a potential trade deal with the US. Something already demonstrated to be unlikely given what’s just happened at Bombardier.

    However, I would be sure they’ll quite happily send some canon fodder over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    flaneur wrote: »
    Probably not. The Tories are only concerned about a potential trade deal with the US. Something already demonstrated to be unlikely given what’s just happened at Bombardier.

    However, I would be sure they’ll quite happily send some canon fodder over.

    There will be no "cannon fodder" in terms of boots on the ground. We will though see some bombers and fighters shot down in the biggest bombing campaign since WW2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    There will be no "cannon fodder" in terms of boots on the ground. We will though see some bombers and fighters shot down in the biggest bombing campaign since WW2.

    The cannon fodder will be South Koreans. So no worries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    There will be no "cannon fodder" in terms of boots on the ground. We will though see some bombers and fighters shot down in the biggest bombing campaign since WW2.

    You watch a lot of war movies BillyBob? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    The cannon fodder will be South Koreans. So no worries.

    Pretty racist thing to say but whatever.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 979 ✭✭✭stevedublin


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    Pretty racist thing to say but whatever.

    Those on the pro-war side seem a bit racist all right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭eyerer


    Everyone is a big bad racist nowadays.
    I'm appalled


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Those on the pro-war side seem a bit racist all right.

    But there not ,


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    Pretty racist thing to say but whatever.

    So saying that a nation of people is under threat because of two egotistical clowns is "racist"? You're just being silly now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭dog_pig


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    There will be no "cannon fodder" in terms of boots on the ground. We will though see some bombers and fighters shot down in the biggest bombing campaign since WW2.

    There were more bombs dropped in Vietnam than in the Second World War.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    dog_pig wrote: »
    There were more bombs dropped in Vietnam than in the Second World War.

    Even more in Laos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    dog_pig wrote: »
    There were more bombs dropped in Vietnam than in the Second World War.

    And


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,795 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    The 10th and 18th October seem to be key dates for the North Koreans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Provocation from NK possible this evening. ICBM said to be moved to launch site in west of country. USAF ballistic missile detection aircraft said to be in the air now (same last night apparently) and SK aircraft too.


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  • Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would imagine those missile detection planes are busy all the time at the moment.


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