US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Not necessarily true ,

Several small yield tactical nukes targeting the areas where the majority of his artillery pieces are followed by a serious amount of air and naval strikes maybe enough ,but chances are they will go with conventional weapons and end up in a long term conflict

They have to know where every missile is for that to work. Kim could have underground missile silos around Pyongyang? Underground facilities are hard to get at.

archer22

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The only way we stopping NK from firing nukes, is America would have to carry out nuclear strikes on North Korea killing millions of people and America would have to strike before Kim could react.

And before China could react and blow the skutter out of America.

Bottom line is North Korea is perfectly safe and Kim Jong Un knows it.

So does Trump..that's why all he ever does is leap around like a frustrated Ape in a cage.

Cheerful Spring

archer22 wrote: »

And before China could react and blow the skutter out of America.

Bottom line is North Korea is perfectly safe and Kim Jong Un knows it.

So does Trump..that's why all he ever does is leap around like a frustrated Ape in a cage.

I think conflict will happen. It amazes me when people say there be no war. Cough European countries and America have been constantly fighting wars since 1914 and before that.

Cheerful Spring

The missile was fired late Friday night North Korea time, and was in the air for around 45 minutes, according to analysts. Jeffrey Lewis, an expert on North Korea’s missile program at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, estimates that the missile is capable of traveling around 10,000 km, or around 6,200 miles.

“The models we’ve created based on the size of the missile and the power of the engine show that it can reach the continental US, probably New York and DC,” he told me in an interview.

That’s as scary as it sounds. On July 4, North Korea successfully tested an ICBM capable of hitting Alaska. Now many of America’s biggest cities are potentially in range as well.

This will only put more pressure on the Trump administration to figure out how to deal with North Korea. Back in January, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said that his country was close to testing an ICBM. President Donald Trump promised that a test wouldn’t happen. But now that there have been two ICBM launches, the administration may feel it must do something beyond tweeting out words of disapproval.

Gatling

archer22 wrote: »

And before China could react and blow the skutter out of America.

Lol according to who

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Lol according to who

America, considers China, Russia, Iran and North Korea to be global threats. Why would China ever help America. China was never going to help Trump with North Korea, this only helps America and its global interest of dominating the world.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

America, considers China,

That's not what I asked

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

That's not what I asked

China and America are clashing over the South China seas. America is not a friendly partner. So we know China has no interest pleasing Trump. If war came would China join North Korea? I doubt it, but who knows what the Chinese thinking is about defending the North?

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

China and America are clashing over the South China seas. America is not a friendly partner. So we know China has no interest pleasing Trump. If war came would China join North Korea? I doubt it, but who knows what the Chinese thinking is about defending the North?

China clashing with the most of Asia due to claiming the whole south China sea and India Vs america and its allies ,
China won't want a war with america and the rest of the it's neighbours it's a situation that they can only lose unfortunately ,you get the feelings up and coming mid - upper classes don't want to loose their new fortunes essentially fighting to keep Kim in North Korea

BillyBobBS

Trump is going to have to deal with this sooner rather than later. With every test NK grows stronger and the US looks weaker.

Cheerful Spring

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Trump is going to have to deal with this sooner rather than later. With every test NK grows stronger and the US looks weaker.

There is lot of rumors Trump is giving it till around October time, could come quicker, if NK ICBM is reliable and can hit America?

Richard Hillman

1000km is just about enough to hit Tokyo from the South East corner of North Korea. They have crossed a line now.

Prime Minister Abe is under pressure at home for non Korean issues. Action here though is not a half arsed thing. It's all or nothing.

From a global point of view, as long as South Korea can be protected, action is needed. We said "never again" after the holocaust, yet here we are with concentration camps in North Korea. Their time is up.

Cheerful Spring

Richard Hillman wrote: »

1000km is just about enough to hit Tokyo from the South East corner of North Korea. They have crossed a line now.

Prime Minister Abe is under pressure at home for non Korean issues. Action here though is not a half arsed thing. It's all or nothing.

From a global point of view, as long as South Korea can be protected, action is needed. We said "never again" after the holocaust, yet here we are with concentration camps in North Korea. Their time is up.

The missile can fly 6,200 miles, if the experts are correct This is not a average missile, it's an ICBM.

This missile
620 miles and reaching a maximum altitude of 2,300 miles .Just the missile can hit cities like Chicago, maybe New York. West Coast of America all in range. I predicted this was the case with the July 4 test. It was obvious for awhile now NK has a missile that can hit America. Successful Reentry and payload of that weapon has yet to be determined.

BillyBobBS

The speed of NK's missile development is mind boggling given the sanctions. The west has failed and now we reach the end game.

Gatling

BillyBobBS wrote: »

The speed of NK's missile development is mind boggling given the sanctions. The west has failed and now we reach the end game.

China supplied them across the border ,

Just as worrying is Iran tested a new rocket (missle) capable of carrying a satallite into orbit on Thursday too ,

Seems there all at it now

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

China supplied them across the border ,

Just as worrying is Iran tested a new rocket (missle) capable of carrying a satallite into orbit on Thursday too ,

Seems there all at it now

America started this all off. NK and Iran only go crazy because Trump threatens to wipe them out.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

America started this all off. NK and Iran only go crazy because Trump threatens to wipe them out.

No

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

No

Yes. NK never was this hostile, years previously. When Trump said he deal with them when he got elected, is when NK put the foot on the pedal and started testing missile after missile.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Yes. NK never was this hostile, years previously. When Trump said he deal with them when he got elected, is when NK put the foot on the pedal and started testing missile after missile.

They have been testing missles for near 30 years most failed it only recently they started increased testing this would have been planned long before trump got elected ,

Fortunately facts prove you wrong in this case

seiphil

North Korea will not be a walk over! Their country is basically built for a war.

They have the men and the weapons. A war with North Korea will cost millions of lives on both sides.

A peaceful solution must be tried until the very last opportunity. I absolutely hate morons on social media basically foaming at the mouth for a war with North Korea.
They are generally Americans.

China will not allow America to win this war. Like the previous one. So I can see it dragging on and on for years with more and more countries getting involved.

If it does kick off. Let Japan and South Korea deal with it. China will be far more willing to be helpful if that's the case. The states need to stay away from this at all costs.

archer22

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

America started this all off. NK and Iran only go crazy because Trump threatens to wipe them out.

That's absolutely correct....North Korea like most of the world's problems has Made in America stamped on it.
In fact majority of the World's problems are American made.

Its all that dreadful ugly trash nation has to offer the world...but no doubt Karma will catch up with it sooner or later.

jimmycrackcorm

seiphil wrote:

They have the men and the weapons. A war with North Korea will cost millions of lives on both sides.

If the NK get as far as launching a missile that goes anywhere near American waters then I can see the U.S. launching a pre-emptive nuclear strike to take out the threat. The Chinese won't be able to do anything and the NK won't be left in a position to retaliate. The U.S. well feel justified because it becomes a direct that to them then.If they're willing to make someone like trump president then they'll happily nuke NK.

archer22 wrote:

That's absolutely correct....North Korea like most of the world's problems has Made in America stamped on it. In fact majority of the World's problems are American made.

Actually not correct. It's made in China from their former brand of communism. I'm pretty sure the south Koreans didn't want to be kims slaves.

gitzy16v

NK is one of the few places in the world Id have very little issue in US getting involved...then again they'll probably make a hames of it like the rest of their interventions.

allthedunnes

Honestly, what is the point of all this repetitive scaremongering?

NK fires a missile, it lands in the Sea of Japan, Washington D.C and all the other allies warn NK not to do it again, Kim Jong-UN test-fires another missile, repeat, repeat, repeat.

Let's face it lads, if Trump was going to start war over there, he seems very good at putting it off, because the only war he is creating when it comes to NK is a war of words.

BorneTobyWilde

NK are no threat to anyone but themselves, simply no need to start a fight with them.

allthedunnes

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

NK are no threat to anyone but themselves, simply no need to start a fight with them.

I totally agree.

seiphil

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

If the NK get as far as launching a missile that goes anywhere near American waters then I can see the U.S. launching a pre-emptive nuclear strike to take out the threat. The Chinese won't be able to do anything and the NK won't be left in a position to retaliate. The U.S. well feel justified because it becomes a direct that to them then.If they're willing to make someone like trump president then they'll happily nuke NK.

This is nonsense. The US are not some sort of super human army. They make a balls of things all the time and struggle to beat a load of farmers in the middle east. As I said. North Korea is basically built for a war. Everything is underground.
It wont be the case of ahh the US will drop a few bombs here and there and that will sort everything. Sure ISIS only started getting a beating when Russia got involved and America were illegally there for a long time before them. The Chinese could sink those 3 American carriers no problem if the US get out of control.

Gatling

seiphil wrote: »

This is nonsense. The US are not some sort of super human army. They make a balls of things all the time and struggle to beat a load of farmers in the middle east. As I said. North Korea is basically built for a war. Everything is underground.
It wont be the case of ahh the US will drop a few bombs here and there and that will sort everything. Sure ISIS only started getting a beating when Russia got involved and America were illegally there for a long time before them. The Chinese could sink those 3 American carriers no problem if the US get out of control.

What farmers in the middle East are you talking about .

North Korea isn't built for war or anything like it ,

Sinking carriers isn't so easy .

And it's been repeatedly proven russia hasn't targeted Isis is Syria as gets clamied they stick to opposition forces .

But yeah good try

gitzy16v

Gatling wrote: »

And it's been repeatedly proven russia hasn't targeted Isis is Syria as gets clamied they stick to opposition forces .

What opposition forces are they?al-Nusra Front...Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (JFS)....Zenki Brigade....Ahrar al-Sham....Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS)....

You must know all those moderate opposition forces Gatling...all borne from the terrorist group..al qaeda..
You know the ones that the US were supporting...https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/888800868191141889

At least the Russians are trying,although Im firmly in the Americans camp in regards to NK.

jackboy

seiphil wrote: »

As I said. North Korea is basically built for a war. Everything is underground.
It wont be the case of ahh the US will drop a few bombs here and there and that will sort everything.

NK haven't been at war for 50 years. They have a massive pathetic army. The US would destroy them in 3 days. There would just be low level resistance after that.