US considering Preemptive Strike against North Korea.

archer22

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so why does every tourist get assigned somebody from the intelligence services to make sure they dont stray away from the official tour?

They Don't want illegal immigrants...or undocumented as they would be known if they were Irish

Gatling

archer22 wrote: »

They Don't want illegal immigrants...or undocumented

Show us a country that doesn't

archer22

Gatling wrote: »

Show us a country that doesn't

Merkel's Germany

CruelCoin

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Can you tell me the last time there was a democratic election in North Korea?

When was the last time America had a democratic voting system?

Last i checked, the guy with fewer votes is in the white house...

archer22

CruelCoin wrote: »

When was the last time America had a democratic voting system?

Last i checked, the guy with fewer votes is in the white house...

Also you have to be multi millionaire before you can even think about running...'Democracy' :pac:

Gatling

archer22 wrote: »

Also you have to be multi millionaire before you can even think about running...'Democracy' :pac:

Viktor yanukovic and putin come to mind ,


Billionaires but own no business empires or owning any business of any kind but once put in power of their countries they became billionaires

Infini

CruelCoin wrote: »

When was the last time America had a democratic voting system?

Last i checked, the guy with fewer votes is in the white house...

True but hes also has limitations placed on him by congress so he cant do everything he likes. He's also held reasonably accountable as well if he really does something out of bounds.

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Nonsense. Korean war and it was America who put boots on the ground. China and Soviet Union did not attack South Korea and did not even do it during the Vietnam war. Less time watching Rambo, will do you good.

Bull**** alert: The soviet union was helping covertly as they didnt want to get into a direct conflict with the US and China intervened because the communists had only recently siezed power there and Mao was wanting to impress Stalin at the time. If they hadnt intervened the US forces would've ended the Korean War in favour of the south without a doubt.

Dohnjoe

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Historical stuff is not historical

Individuals with strong personal world views often try to rearrange history, distort facts, spread disinformation and reject overwhelming historical consensus to suit their own personal world views and narratives. Sometimes unknowingly (I hope)

Partisan revisionism, well known by historians.

Cheerful Spring

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Individuals with strong personal world views often try to rearrange history, distort facts, spread disinformation and reject overwhelming historical consensus to suit their own personal world views and narratives. Sometimes unknowingly (I hope)

Partisan revisionism, well known by historians.

We know this to be false. The victors in war write the history books. Independent investigation is the only way to find out the real truth. Obviously some things can't be denied if the evidence is strong enough to support it.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

We know this to be false. The victors in war write the history books. Independent investigation is the only way to find out the real truth. Obviously some things can't be denied if the evidence is strong enough to support it.

Odd you have zero evidence to support your cliams

Cheerful Spring

Infini wrote: »

Bull**** alert: The soviet union was helping covertly as they didnt want to get into a direct conflict with the US and China intervened because the communists had only recently siezed power there and Mao was wanting to impress Stalin at the time. If they hadnt intervened the US forces would've ended the Korean War in favour of the south without a doubt.

China and Soviet Union was not interested in starting a major war, good for them. America was more interesting in fighting communism, that's about it. They should have just let the Korean people at it, and maybe today there would be no nuclear missiles pointed at them.

Ipso

CruelCoin wrote: »

When was the last time America had a democratic voting system?

Last i checked, the guy with fewer votes is in the white house...

Pity you didn't check the rules of the election.

BillyBobBS

CruelCoin wrote: »

When was the last time America had a democratic voting system?

Last i checked, the guy with fewer votes is in the white house...

Eh no.

Gringo180

Gatling wrote: »

Viktor yanukovic and putin come to mind ,


Billionaires but own no business empires or owning any business of any kind but once put in power of their countries they became billionaires

Bit like the house of Saud and just a few weeks ago they were sold billions of pounds of military hardware for there massacre in Yemen

Ipso

Gringo180 wrote: »

Bit like the house of Saud and just a few weeks ago they were sold billions of pounds of military hardware for there massacre in Yemen

Muslims kill other muslims. Shirley you jest.

Gatling

Gringo180 wrote: »

Bit like the house of Saud

Old money ,

Unlike the new billionaires ala yanukovic and putin

Gringo180

Gatling wrote: »

Old money ,

Unlike the new billionaires ala yanukovic and putin

You must have missed Tony Blairs huge increase in value.

archer22

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

tell that to the 1 Million+ south vietnamese sent to re-education camps after the fall of saigon. The nearly 2 million vietnamese boat people who fled the country after the war would also disagreee with your benign assessment of what happened after the war.

The people who fled Vietnam (the boat people) were mostly ethnic Chinese...the exodus began in 1979 when China and Vietnam had a major falling out resulting in some military clashes along the border.
The ethnic Chinese who had been living in Vietnam for generations bore the brunt of Vietnamese anger towards China.

Manic Moran

Gringo180 wrote: »

Manic Moran wrote: »

Two interesting claims there. Would you care to back them up?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/the-us-war-crime-north-korea-wont-forget/2015/03/20/fb525694-ce80-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html#ampshare=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-us-war-crime-north-korea-wont-forget/2015/03/20/fb525694-ce80-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html

Linked article addresses neither of the two claims quoted.

CruelCoin wrote: »

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Can you tell me the last time there was a democratic election in North Korea?

When was the last time America had a democratic voting system?

Last i checked, the guy with fewer votes is in the white house...

True, but it is a risk in any representative parliamentary system as well, to include Ireland. It has happened in the U.K. in the 1950s, for example.

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Gatling

Gringo180 wrote: »

You must have missed Tony Blairs huge increase in value.

Didn't become multi billionaire unlike others did he ,

Gringo180

Gatling wrote: »

Didn't become multi billionaire unlike others did he ,

His fortune has increased ten fold since hes left office. Advisor to some pretty shady characters. Earned 5 million a year advising Kazakhstans dictator who has slaughtered his own civilians tjat has protested against his regime, Blair, a man who should be in the Hague has done awfully well off the back of his Prime Ministership.

Gatling

Gringo180 wrote: »

His fortune has increased ten fold since hes left office. Advisor to some pretty shady characters. Earned 5 million a year advising Kazakhstans dictator who has slaughtered his own civilians tjat has protested against his regime, Blair, a man who should be in the Hague has done awfully well off the back of his Prime Ministership.

But he didn't steal hundreds of millions or billions he got paid to advise ,
Kazakhstans Reminds me of several others autocratic rulers.

Also remind me who's propping up Kazakhstans brutal dictatorship and which country has thousands of troops stationed there

mad muffin

WWIII bring it on. The herd needs to be culled. Technology needs to make the next great leap forwards.

Gatling

mad muffin wrote: »

WWIII bring it on. The herd needs to be culled. Technology needs to make the next great leap forwards.

Nah give it five to seven years rail guns and direct energy weapons will be the new big thing no point wasting expensive weapons till then

archer22

mad muffin wrote: »

WWIII bring it on. The herd needs to be culled. Technology needs to make the next great leap forwards.

It will come, but it will be global warming that will the catalyst that kicks it off.

When that plus the nuclear war to grab others resources will be over "the herd" will be well "culled" and good focking riddance.

I just hope Earth's other creatures survive to one day see a better future.

Lirange

Gringo180 wrote: »

You keep swallowing what western media tell you sheeple. I suppose they didnt blow the dams in N.Korea to smithereens or the Sinchon massacre was a myth where the South Koreans and U.S killed around 35 thousand civilians in a little over a month.

Certainly a great indication of a well grounded, sound, wise, and thoughtful argument is the inclusion of labels like "Sheeple."

Rattle that sabre harder fat boy!

North Korea says its plan to fire four missiles near the US territory of Guam will soon be ready, as a war of words with Washington intensifies.
State media said Hwasong-12 rockets would pass over Japan and land in the sea about 30km (17 miles) from Guam, if the plan was approved by Kim Jong-un.
It denounced Donald Trump's warnings of "fire and fury" and said the US leader was "bereft of reason".
The US has warned the North its actions could mean the "end of its regime".
US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis said Pyongyang would be "grossly overmatched" in any war against the US and its allies.

Just how hard are NK prepared to push the US?
Is it really a battle of wills now and they hope the US will back down.

archer22

Deleted User wrote: »

Rattle that sabre harder fat boy!



Just how hard are NK prepared to push the US?
Is it really a battle of wills now and they hope the US will back down.

Or the US hopes they will back down ...It's a game that's being going on for 60 years.

Nothing will happen unless one of them totally oversteps the mark...North Korea won't they are playing the game so long now they know how far to go.

But the Trump regime is another matter,new to the game and arrogant and thick, and that's a dangerous combination.

Nettle Soup

archer22 wrote: »

Or the US hopes they will back down ...It's a game that's being going on for 60 years.

Nothing will happen unless one of them totally oversteps the mark...North Korea won't they are playing the game so long now they know how far to go.

But the Trump regime is another matter,new to the game and arrogant and thick, and that's a dangerous combination.

Agreed, nothing will happen here. It's bluster on both sides by 2 spoilt brats.