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  • Registered Users Posts: 73,455 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    jharr100 wrote: »

    And my arse plays the banjo


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-aero-hot-turbo-2l/14891970

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    9-3 HOT Aero 200 BHP with NCT to 2/18 for €600. Might be a bit ropey but still!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    jharr100 wrote: »

    A 12 year old diesel which has done an average 6k a year.
    Wonder what the actually mileage was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,451 ✭✭✭CharlieCroker


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Alfa's are as reliable as most cars once they receive the proper maintenance. I had an 8 year old 156 petrol with 180k miles when I got rid. Ran perfectly because it was maintained.

    The issue is proper maintenance on them is expensive and a lot of people scrimp on it.

    people seem to use the maintenance argument as an excuse when defending alfas. They need a lot of pampering outside of regular maintenance and even at that they still tend to go wrong. To me it seems to be more down to poor design/quality rather than maintenance issues.

    Don't get me wrong they are nice cars it's just they are soft.

    I'm far from a fanboi, I've only owned one and am only going off my own personal ownership experience.

    It never had a mechanical failure, never failed an NCT and never let me down. Maybe I got lucky but I don't think so.
    I'd buy another no problem if it was reasonably priced and had a pile of reciepts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭ligertigon


    http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

    alfa is waaaay down the list!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Rover at #8 and as if that in itself isn't odd enough, MG strolls in at #18.

    Jackie-Chan-WTF.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    ligertigon wrote: »
    http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

    alfa is waaaay down the list!

    Going by that list there are a few manufacturers which should know better then yeah? I.e audi
    The list a complete joke.
    Let's just drop the whole "debate" as it's pointless


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,306 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Bentley is # 38 :eek:

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    unkel wrote: »
    Still worth more than a grand. We'll see who's right. @cocoman - make sure to report back here when the car is sold :)

    So I sold the Focus estate for €1100.

    Sad to see it go after 6 years. Might have got more if I waited but the OH's car is sitting idle as she changed. I now have her 07 petrol Octavia. I hope I sold the right one!

    The Octavia is currently on DD for €3k but it's probably a Bangernomics candidate. Taxed and NCT 05/18. Running well with 198k km.

    Half thinking of buying another focus estate (13) or a Qashqai (10/11).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭jharr100


    bear1 wrote: »
    Going by that list there are a few manufacturers which should know better then yeah? I.e audi
    The list a complete joke.
    Let's just drop the whole "debate" as it's pointless

    Audi / VW does badly in lots of lists..
    Maybe thats why they only offer a 3 year 90k km warranty

    http://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/most-reliable-engines/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    bear1 wrote: »
    Going by that list there are a few manufacturers which should know better then yeah? I.e audi
    The list a complete joke.
    Let's just drop the whole "debate" as it's pointless

    Those list have been proven many times to be totally wrong - I've posted about it here before, but basically, lots of "prestigious" marques do badly, and cheaper marques do well, not because the cheaper ones are necessarily better, but because of the expecatation level of the purchaser. The guy who's paid €85k for a Merc will consider it a huge disappointment if his cupholder doesn't work the way he wanted it to, or Lyric FM doesn't always come in loud and clear, whereas the guy who paid €10k for a Dacia Sandero will be a little more circumspect about the small things. Not to mention that Merc man will probably have the wherewithal to drop the car to the dealer any time he wants, whereas Dacia man might be too busy worrying about the mortgage and working overtime to pay for the car loan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Those list have been proven many times to be totally wrong - I've posted about it here before, but basically, lots of "prestigious" marques do badly, and cheaper marques do well, not because the cheaper ones are necessarily better, but because of the expecatation level of the purchaser.

    But they still give a hint when comparing brands for similar wallet, exp. VW vs Ford vs Toyota or MB vs BMW vs Lexus. I would say the VW buyer has similar level of expectations as a buyer of a Toyota...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    grogi wrote: »
    But they still give a hint when comparing brands for similar wallet, exp. VW vs Ford vs Toyota or MB vs BMW vs Lexus. I would say the VW buyer has similar level of expectations as a buyer of a Toyota...

    You very well could be correct in that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/cheap-opel-corsa-tested-09-17/15626337?campaign=3

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    Tested till 9/17 for €175...it beats waiting at a bus stop..I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/land-rover-discovery2-2001/15594553

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    NCT'd till 9/17, tax for three days & its coil sprung - for €1600. Seems alright if this is your kind of thing


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Kiket2ride


    Just saw this, looks really nice and probably can negotiate 2k out of it: donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-quick-sale-nct-1-18/15572819


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,455 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Kiket2ride wrote: »
    Just saw this, looks really nice and probably can negotiate 2k out of it: donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-quick-sale-nct-1-18/15572819



    Www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-quick-sale-nct-1-18/15572819


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Kiket2ride


    colm_mcm wrote: »

    Thanks. Are these engines known for any reliability issues I should be aware of?


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,455 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Those would be pre Efficient dynamics as far as i know, so not as troublesome, I seem to remember problems with injectors and coil packs on them, but to be honest they've always flown under my radar as a car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Kiket2ride wrote: »
    Thanks. Are these engines known for any reliability issues I should be aware of?

    Yes, BMW four pots aren't best...

    The cooling is prone to leaking and it is very easy to overheat the engine because the dash indicator is not very precise - stays in the middle until hundred something degrees. Valvetronic is temperamental. Coil packs fail.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,243 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Kiket2ride wrote: »
    Thanks. Are these engines known for any reliability issues I should be aware of?

    If you read the description in the advert there has been a lot replaced on that engine. That can either be a good thing (car doesn't need money spent on it now) or a bad thing (the car has a history of being a money pit). I'd tend to keep looking if you're after reliability.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,605 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Wow, there's a Corolla in need of a family bucket of turtle wax

    But, jaysus, that's some cheap motoring right there.
    Set of nice hub caps and you'd be golden for nearly a year


  • Registered Users Posts: 73,455 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Old Testament Audi A7


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,616 ✭✭✭ba_barabus



    I could have sworn that body style only came in 1.6l form hence it's lack of appeal in Ireland. Odd to see a 1.3 auto but maybe it was a UK import. Not that it makes much of a difference tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I could have sworn that body style only came in 1.6l form hence it's lack of appeal in Ireland. Odd to see a 1.3 auto but maybe it was a UK import. Not that it makes much of a difference tbh.

    Same tbh. I always thought they were quite posh inside too


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,616 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Same tbh. I always thought they were quite posh inside too

    Slightly different dash and higher spec finish afaik. I've only ever seen them on 1993/4 plates which makes me think they were withdrawn from the market here. Shame as they looked a lot better than the hatch.

    I loved the Sprinter that came before it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,243 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I think that Corolla Liftback is an import. That shape was briefly sold here as a Sprinter when it was launched back in 1993. They were around the same price as an entry level Carina E at the time meaning they didn't sell in great numbers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi




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