BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

colm_mcm

Yep same one. They’re not even that fast compared to the 150.

johndaman66

The first one in particular while looking seems pricey especially considering the high motor tax which we all know is killing the value of these cars. While I'd drive an Avensis all day long most spending that sort of motor tax on a car of that sort will most likely want something more up market than eventless. A very limited market I'd expect.

Cool, were getting 2 extra days next February

terrydel

johndaman66 wrote: »

Cool, were getting 2 extra days next February

Ha, good spot!

DARK-KNIGHT

Picked up a 2005 corolla saloon 1.4 petrol 220,000 km with extras like air conditioning, alloys and a tow bar.

Nct 01/20
3 full months tax
Fsh
Tyres 90%
Serviced a week ago

For the sum of 850 euro

What a bargain

nice_guy80

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/sabb-9-3-18t-08-new-nct01-20/18345386

jharr100

nice_guy80 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/sabb-9-3-18t-08-new-nct01-20/18345386

Nice smooth drive that 2 litre turbo engine.

26000 Elephants

jharr100 wrote: »

Nice smooth drive that 2 litre turbo engine.

Its nice, but you will always be kicking yourself for not getting a 20t or 20T.

But for bangernomics, its excellent.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-daihatsu-perodua-1-3-nct-03-20-tax-03-19/21005592



Years test, cheap(ish) tax, €1950

Put it in for another test at the end of the year and get two years

bear1

If the head gasket doesn't kill you with those avensis, the abysmal fuel consumption will.

colm_mcm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2010-daihatsu-perodua-1-3-nct-03-20-tax-03-19/21005592



Years test, cheap(ish) tax, €1950

Put it in for another test at the end of the year and get two years

Gone,

newtown13

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-3-23k-miles/21300472?campaign=3

very low milage

terrydel

newtown13 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-3-23k-miles/21300472?campaign=3

very low milage

As nice as it looks, I'd want an nct before paying that, especially if it really hasn't had one since 2009.

Sofiztikated

terrydel wrote: »

As nice as it looks, I'd want an nct before paying that, especially if it really hasn't had one since 2009.

The NCT pictured is to March '20.

Duke O Smiley

The biggest problem with that car is the fact that it has the 1.3 Endura and not the 1.25 Zetec

Toyotafanboi

I'd say that car was only €1150 new. Most of those facelifted cars were nicely specd for what they were, that yoke, as fresh as it is, is total Calcutta spec, whoever bought it new probably would have left the roof off it it would have kept the price down.

1874

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

The biggest problem with that car is the fact that it has the 1.3 Endura and not the 1.25 Zetec

Im surprised the 1.3 was even still available in 01, I thought they might have been in error but they show a picture of the engine bay and its not the 1.25 for sure, the engine looks clean and Ive heard people say they were ok, I suppose digital odo was standard at that point

Still it only has 23k miles on it?

Duke O Smiley

1874 wrote: »

Im surprised the 1.3 was even still available in 01, I thought they might have been in error but they show a picture of the engine bay and its not the 1.25 for sure, the engine looks clean and Ive heard people say they were ok, I suppose digital odo was standard at that point

Still it only has 23k miles on it?

It has been around more or less for 60 years..its not well regarded at all tbh

The final redesign came in 1995, with the launch of the fourth-generation Ford Fiesta. This edition was effectively another redesign of the Valencia/HCS derivative, known as the Endura-E, and featured many revisions to combat noise and harshness, including a thickened cylinder block. This engine would also be used in the Ka until 2002 where it was replaced by the Duratec and the 1.3 Escort until 2002.

This type of engine still has tappet noise even after adjustment. This noise is said to come from the cams due to incorrect valve setup (when setting valve clearance each cylinder must be set to TDC) or from age and use of incorrect oil grade. The correct oil grade is 5W-30 semi synthetic oil. Another reason is the large tappet clearance on the exhaust valve. This could of course be reduced to lower the noise level but the engine would then suffer from a rough idle and usually stalled.

Despite Ford's engines being well regarded for their ease of service, the Endura-E has a very awkward placing for its oil filter, at the back of the engine and facing from left to right rather than pointing downwards or out, this being a leftover from the original Kent which was normally mounted longitudinally for rear-wheel drive. This mounting position makes it very difficult to access from underneath the car (without a mechanic's ramp), and despite being very short, the can-type oil filter still manages to protrude past the tip of the adjacent starter motor, meaning it is very difficult to remove using chain-type grips.

When compared to the Zetec engine in the exact same car its very difficult to see any redeeming features.

I'm still nearly tempted by it...they are comfortable little cars IMO. I really like them. I suppose if you're going to preserve one too it pays to start with the best example you can find.

Duke O Smiley

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd say that car was only €1150 new. Most of those facelifted cars were nicely specd for what they were, that yoke, as fresh as it is, is total Calcutta spec, whoever bought it new probably would have left the roof off it it would have kept the price down.

One owner from April 2001 to September 2013, second from September 2013 to March 2019 (who never once taxed it)..and one dealer owner since last week

I would guess some old dear had it new and hung up the driving gloves in 2013, whoever bought it had planned on keeping it up until it became desirable but sold it in the meantime for whatever reason.

I don't know why but I keep going back to the ad for more looks!

alan partridge aha

Pushrod engine in them were pretty reliable.

Duke O Smiley

Now this is worth saving!

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1998-toyota-cynos/21308116



Years test, tax till July, Bridgestone tyres, 1 owner, €800

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Pushrod engine in them were pretty reliable.

They the ones that would go tap tap tap on every startup?

1874

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

It has been around more or less for 60 years..its not well regarded at all tbh

When compared to the Zetec engine in the exact same car its very difficult to see any redeeming features.

I'm still nearly tempted by it...they are comfortable little cars IMO. I really like them. I suppose if you're going to preserve one too it pays to start with the best example you can find.

I thought they were supposed to be reliable engines, Id a 1.25 version, older but with a better spec than that, at the end of its days it was burning oil and prone to some mild rust, family member killed it when they didnt keep a regular eye on it and top it up. Id take that one if I had somewhere to keep it.

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Now this is worth saving!

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1998-toyota-cynos/21308116



Years test, tax till July, Bridgestone tyres, 1 owner, €800

likewise, if only I had somewhere to put it, looks clean (on the outside)

Duke O Smiley

Likewise, I’d love the cynos. I had a few and loved them all. They’re Starlet based iirc but feel a million times better inside and are actually very pleasant to drive.

Toyotafanboi

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

One owner from April 2001 to September 2013, second from September 2013 to March 2019 (who never once taxed it)..and one dealer owner since last week

I would guess some old dear had it new and hung up the driving gloves in 2013, whoever bought it had planned on keeping it up until it became desirable but sold it in the meantime for whatever reason.

I don't know why but I keep going back to the ad for more looks!

That looks like a VW brand economy 063 equivalent battery. Definitely been passed through the trade recently IMO. I'd like it. Sure the 1.3 us a mule of an engine but that's its charm too. Really basic and reliable.

If they were both free and I could only have one, I'd take that Fiesta over the Cynos.

marklazarcovic

I'd have that cynos if I didn't have a 7 hr round trip

Duke O Smiley

I hate when this happens. Something really nice like that Fiesta is posted, I keep looking at it and by the end of the week I somehow end up buying it. Same thing happened when my Corolla was posted here in December..:P

I would be tempted to get rid of my e11 and CA Alto for that Fiesta. Bit pointless taxing two "runarounds" anyway. The Corolla has only done about a thousand miles and the Alto about the same since I got both last year. The effort of trying to sell either of them though is offputting though

elperello

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd say that car was only €1150 new. Most of those facelifted cars were nicely specd for what they were, that yoke, as fresh as it is, is total Calcutta spec, whoever bought it new probably would have left the roof off it it would have kept the price down.

Seriously e1150. I don't have a price list to hand but there was no car for that price in that year.
As for Calcutta Spec, that's a new one on me but IMO it's simplicity and low spec is it's charm.

1874

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

I hate when this happens. Something really nice like that Fiesta is posted, I keep looking at it and by the end of the week I somehow end up buying it. Same thing happened when my Corolla was posted here in December..:P

I would be tempted to get rid of my e11 and CA Alto for that Fiesta. Bit pointless taxing two "runarounds" anyway. The Corolla has only done about a thousand miles and the Alto about the same since I got both last year. The effort of trying to sell either of them though is offputting though

I was on the verge of asking somewhere in motors, Im tempted to have a second car, a usual day to day bus and then something old and nice or interesting, any brokers do multicar insurance, where your car would be covered on the driveway, while you commute in the other. Id prefer to have somewhere to keep them, but thats not happening.

elperello wrote: »

Seriously e1150. I don't have a price list to hand but there was no car for that price in that year.
As for Calcutta Spec, that's a new one on me but IMO it's simplicity and low spec is it's charm.

Maybe he meant 11500? mine was £12000 new a few years before that.

Mad_Mike

**DISCLAIMER**

This is my own car (kinda), and just posting a link here, as it fits the bill

2005 2.0D Volvo S40
Taxed until end of April
NCT until July
Very economical car. Does about 5.8-6 litres/100km (About 47-48 mpg)

My wifes car, and she has owned it for the last 2½ years and just fancies a change for something bigger, possibly an estate *




*Favourable rates for fellow Bangernomics fans

elperello

1874 wrote: »

I was on the verge of asking somewhere in motors, Im tempted to have a second car, a usual day to day bus and then something old and nice or interesting, any brokers do multicar insurance, where your car would be covered on the driveway, while you commute in the other. Id prefer to have somewhere to keep them, but thats not happening.





Maybe he meant 11500? mine was £12000 new a few years before that.

I don't know of such a policy but you can get third party for as little as e150 on a thirty year old plus car. I would advise that you get a dry place to keep an old car before buying one. Leaving an old car out in the weather will kill it.

Yes he is probably out by a factor of 10.