Shooter in Cleveland

Arne_Saknussem

Steve Stephens has killed at least 1 person, which he filmed and uploaded to Facebook, and claims to have killed 13.

There are some videos uploaded, one of which is very graphic, of him during the spree. In 1 of the video's he claims to have killed 13 people.

He's still at large.

CNN covering the story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I06BtdB6MdA

Beyondgone

I prefer the inactive ones.

tonycascarino

What would Beyoncé say? Will Colin Kaepernick refuse to stand for the American anthem after this crime? :rolleyes: Black lives matter.

Mod: As per PM, don't post in here again.

Poor Uncle Tom

Bang bang land, what do you expect, 'only guns can stop guns' is now in charge, so these sprees can only get more common.

Arne_Saknussem

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Bang bang land, what do you expect, 'only guns can stop guns' is now in charge, so these sprees can only get more common.

Not his biggest fan but bit of a stretch pinning this one on Donald.

Poor Uncle Tom

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Not his biggest fan but bit of a stretch pinning this one on Donald.

Not pinning it on him and it'll probably be an avid supporter of the big D that will clear up this mess, but given his attitude throwing more guns at this situation wont fix it.

Gatling

What a scumbag shoots a defenseless old man in the face ,

Omackeral

Gatling wrote: »

What a scumbag shoots a defenseless old man in the face ,

He was obviously mentally ill.

Aren't they always

Noveight

Just watched the video of him shooting that elderly bloke. Didn't really think twice about it for some reason, just clicked.

Jesus Christ.

Mars Bar

I watched the video. Don't watch the video.

jacksie66

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DrumSteve

The former guitarist for Billy Idol was Steve Stevens...

Also did the guitar on the soundtrack for top gun I think.

Now this prick is ruining it for the rest of us steves.

antodeco

A few people posted about it on Facebook and didn't know what it was. I searched for it and was about to watch it. Something said to my mind "do you really need to see this?". I hate modern society. The desire and access to literally anything online is scary and unfortunately creating scenes like these

Mars Bar

DrumSteve wrote: »

The former guitarist for Billy Idol was Steve Stevens...

Also did the guitar on the soundtrack for top gun I think.

Now this prick is ruining it for the rest of us steves.

This fella is actually Steve Stephens

KKkitty

I really hope he's shot dead before he does any more harm. Obviously looking for notoriety and fame by doing it and uploading his actions to Facebook.

KKkitty

antodeco wrote: »

A few people posted about it on Facebook and didn't know what it was. I searched for it and was about to watch it. Something said to my mind "do you really need to see this?". I hate modern society. The desire and access to literally anything online is scary and unfortunately creating scenes like these

I agree with you. For me I'm so used to hearing stuff like this that I'm a little bit desensitised when I hear of a new incident.

DrumSteve

Mars Bar wrote: »

This fella is actually Steve Stephens

A different one?

nocoverart

DrumSteve wrote: »

The former guitarist for Billy Idol was Steve Stevens...

Also did the guitar on the soundtrack for top gun I think.

Now this prick is ruining it for the rest of us steves.

Don't want to come across as insensitive in this thread, but on a lighter note, is Billy Idol worth checking out? currently going through a phase of listening to some classic artists. Playing Pink Floyd - Animals right now and its crazy how well it holds up after 40 years.

pilly

Jesus H, the posts on here are unreal.

DrumSteve

nocoverart wrote: »

Don't want to come across as insensitive in this thread, but on a lighter note, is Billy Idol worth checking out? currently going through a phase of listening to some classic artists. Playing Pink Floyd - Animals right now and its crazy how well it holds up after 40 years.

Yeah billy idol is the man, dancing with myself is a great tune.

corner of hells

pilly wrote: »

Jesus H, the posts on here are unreal.

Now you see why the loons start shooting every so often.

Atoms for Peace

pilly wrote: »

Jesus H, the posts on here are unreal.

Cleveland rocks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G2l_A9nB0

BeerFarts

tonycascarino wrote: »

What would Beyoncé say? Will Colin Kaepernick refuse to stand for the American anthem after this crime? :rolleyes: Black lives matter.

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Jesus, you people...

Beyondgone

nocoverart wrote: »

Don't want to come across as insensitive in this thread, but on a lighter note, is Billy Idol worth checking out? currently going through a phase of listening to some classic artists. Playing Pink Floyd - Animals right now and its crazy how well it holds up after 40 years.

Nooop, you're not coming across as insensitive at all. Honest.
Vacuous? Now that's a whole nother ball game,

pilly

Can a mod please shut this thread down? It's obviously a gang of drunks posting crap for some insane reason.

infogiver

He seems to have completely tipped over the edge.
His girlfriend has broken up with him( he calls her "the love of his life" ) he says he went to his mothers house to tell her that he was suicidal and she didn't care, he seems to work in the counselling field himself, he's phoned a friend to admonish him for never listening to him, he says he's going to kill as many "motherf***ers " as he can so he can be put on death row.
Maybe it's all some kind of black hoax?

mrcheez

There are videos online where he's justifying what he's doing.
Taken in portrait mode.

A clear sign of insanity right there.

Beyondgone

mrcheez wrote: »

There are videos online where he's justifying what he's doing.
Taken in portrait mode.

A clear sign of insanity right there.

True.

infogiver

Fox News has confirmed that he works as a counsellor at a children's mental health facility. He seems to have gone to ground.

NIMAN

infogiver wrote: »

...he says he's going to kill as many "motherf***ers " as he can so he can be put on death row.

So he wants to die?

Why not just turn the gun on himself?

Social media and nutters don't mix.

NikoTopps

Omackeral wrote: »

If my name was Steve Stevens I'd probably go on a rampage too...

Accorrding to one site it just the name he use online,not real surname

RayCon

nocoverart wrote: »

Playing Pink Floyd - Animals right now and its crazy how well it holds up after 40 years.

Not to divert to thread but just had to say it more than holds up .... it's still 100% relevant. Floyd's dark masterpiece.

Omackeral

Holy f*ck I just saw the FB live video and it's the most chilling thing I've ever seen. My god. Horrible. :mad:

razorblunt

I just watched the FB live video.
I wish I had not.

razorblunt

NIMAN wrote: »

So he wants to die?

Why not just turn the gun on himself?

Social media and nutters don't mix.

He's a coward.

Dyr

Beyondgone wrote: »

I prefer the inactive ones.

Now now, let's not criticize posters who mindlessly adapt whatever stupid jargon they hear coming out of the US

take everything

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Steve Stephens has killed at least 1 person, which he filmed and uploaded to Facebook, and claims to have killed 13.

There are some videos uploaded, one of which is very graphic, of him during the spree. In 1 of the video's he claims to have killed 13 people.

He's still at large.

CNN covering the story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I06BtdB6MdA

Read the chat feed under that CNN live feed.
You will despair for humanity.

It seems kind of telling that right now there's a killer who has supposedly executed 13 people one of which was broadcasted live, is still on the run, with practically an entire city at risk, & there's little or nothing about it.

Had the guy been Muslim, however...

Watched the video and it has to be one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen. The sheer nonchalance as he announced what he'll do, left his car and walked over to the guy, shot him, and then walked away. Some news site had an interview with the victim's family. Can you imagine being them and knowing that your family member was executed in such a way? And to have it broadcast.

Livestreaming, while great, has opened up an extremely scary can of worms. I believe it isn't the first time someone has been killed (or at least shot) while doing it. And not to mention the guys who kidnapped and tortured that mentally challenged individual.

C Montgomery Gurns II

Deleted User wrote: »

It seems kind of telling that right now there's a killer who has supposedly executed 13 people one of which was broadcasted live, is still on the run, with practically an entire city at risk, & there's little or nothing about it.

Had the guy been Muslim, however...
.

The PC police have arrived.

If he had been Muslim it may be a case where people would have legitimate gripes about whether he should have been allowed into the country. The Somali Minnesota knife attacker, the Somali Ohio attacker, the Afghan NY/ NJ bomber, the wife in the San Bernardino shootings, the list goes on.

With him being a born and bred yank there's little they could do. The right to bear arms is a moot point on this- the US is so awash with guns it would be decades before any gun ban would have realistic effects (e.g. when the unsurrendered guns become unusable after a few decades)

DanMurphy

NikoTopps wrote: »

Accorrding to one site it just the name he use online,not real surname

The cops have ruled out O.J. Simpson...(they seem to know where he is)

Still, I think this is some sort of Advertising gimmick ala Jim Figgerty or the Milk Tray 'burglar.'

Agent Coulson

So now the once urban legend of snuff videos has become common enough and easy enough to find of social media from beheadings to live shooting held on Facebook live and people now click on links to see it.


I haven't and don't feel the need to view or click on such links when they pop up on social media but it's crazy how desensitized the populations of the world as a whole are becoming to such things.

Billy86

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Not his biggest fan but bit of a stretch pinning this one on Donald.

First American president in a long time to talk at an NRA rally, the NRA being the same gang of lads that after Columbine held a rally nearby about how any guns would have to be taken from their "cold, dead hands".

The problem and blame lies with that crowd, second amendment advocates, poor background checks/regulation, and poor mental health provisions. All of those fit Trump to a tee by are also central tenants of more or less the entire republican party, and we can expect this type of thing to get worse again over the next few years.

Samaris

Does anyone remember in the ..I can't recall if it was primary or secondary school English textbook, a very chilling excerpt/short story about the rise of reality television and the push towards more extreme "entertainment"? It ended up as basically a sort of Survivor/Hunger Games scenario with deaths broadcast. This would be a good few years ago now, probably about fifteen-twenty years.

I can't help but be reminded of the very unpleasant story when hearing about live-feed killings and some of the absolute dregs of humanity that treat it like some sort of game in comments under these feeds.

Arne_Saknussem

Billy86 wrote: »

First American president in a long time to talk at an NRA rally, the NRA being the same gang of lads that after Columbine held a rally nearby about how any guns would have to be taken from their "cold, dead hands".

The problem and blame lies with that crowd, second amendment advocates, poor background checks/regulation, and poor mental health provisions. All of those fit Trump to a tee by are also central tenants of more or less the entire republican party, and we can expect this type of thing to get worse again over the next few years.

This thread & this incident have nothing to do with Donald Trump. I know certain people are so ****ing obsessed with the reality tv show that was the US election that they seem incapable of posting about anything else in any thread, with an us vs them slant('us' being a political party in a country thousands of miles away).

So why not take your Michael Moore dodgily-edited documentary argument about Trump and dump it in a Trump black hole thread where it belongs?

Hande hoche!

Billy86 wrote: »

First American president in a long time to talk at an NRA rally, the NRA being the same gang of lads that after Columbine held a rally nearby about how any guns would have to be taken from their "cold, dead hands".

The problem and blame lies with that crowd, second amendment advocates, poor background checks/regulation, and poor mental health provisions. All of those fit Trump to a tee by are also central tenants of more or less the entire republican party, and we can expect this type of thing to get worse again over the next few years.

Do you curse the Donald when you stub your toe?

Billy86

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

This thread & this incident have nothing to do with Donald Trump. I know certain people are so ****ing obsessed with the reality tv show that was the US election that they seem incapable of posting about anything else in any thread, with an us vs them slant('us' being a political party in a country thousands of miles away).

So why not take your Michael Moore dodgily-edited documentary argument about Trump and dump it in a Trump black hole thread where it belongs?

It wasn't me that brought up Trump - and I explicitly pointed out that I was referring to the Republican party as a whole. But don't let any of that get in your way there.

This Steve Stevens guy seems have more than a few screws loose to be doing what he is doing, and the fact is that pushing to make guns as readily available as possible which the NRA are big fans of, with plenty of loopholes around regulations, while attempting to defund health care that includes mental health, is not going to do anything but make on the edge more likely to go off of it... yet these are all Republican platforms that Trump has also embraced. If you wish to argue with either of those points, feel free.

Arne_Saknussem

Billy86 wrote: »

It wasn't me that brought up Trump - and I explicitly pointed out that I was referring to the Republican party as a whole. But don't let any of that get in your way there.

This Steve Stevens guy seems have more than a few screws loose to be doing what he is doing, and the fact is that pushing to make guns as readily available as possible which the NRA are big fans of, with plenty of loopholes around regulations, while attempting to defund health care that includes mental health, is not going to do anything but make on the edge more likely to go off of it... yet these are all Republican platforms that Trump has also embraced. If you wish to argue with either of those points, feel free.

So your argument the National Rifle Association likes to sell guns, well spotted, and that healthcare includes mental health, and because Republicans were against Obamacare they are responsible for this incident?

It wouldn't have happened in Hillary had won right?

Let's just forget that this man works at a Behavioral Health Agency, so would have had access to help if that's what he wanted.

In fact let's forget about him completely, let's not even spell his name correctly, because he's not important. What's important is that Republicans are evil and Trump is their leader.

Like i said take your schoolboy reasoning and bang heads with all the other morons in the Trump threads.

Billy86

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

So your argument the National Rifle Association likes to sell guns, well spotted, and that healthcare includes mental health, and because Republicans were against Obamacare they are responsible for this incident?

It wouldn't have happened in Hillary had won right?

Let's just forget that this man works at a Behavioral Health Agency, so would have had access to help if that's what he wanted.

In fact let's forget about him completely, let's not even spell his name correctly, because he's not important. What's important is that Republicans are evil and Trump is their leader.

Like i said take your schoolboy reasoning and bang heads with all the other morons in the Trump threads.

You're still going on as if I said Trump was to blame for this incident? My point is that we can expect more than previously of it if he and the GOP gets their healthcare agenda through.

Unless you think less health provisions and more, easy access to guns will help the situation, that is.

Noddyholder

I just watched the video of that poor man getting brutally murdered for absolutely nothing,

Hope Steve Stevens gets caught & not killed, that's to easy.

just put away for ever.

Dublin Pintman

Not to be insensitive to the victim, but a black man killing another black in America is hardly big news is it?

Potkettle

Dublin Pintman wrote: »

Not to be insensitive to the victim, but a black man killing another black in America is hardly big news is it?

Statistically probably not, morally probably should be as big as any other, socially yes because of the live streaming and the implications of that.