Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

Nailz

wanderer100 wrote: »

Thank fcuk for that!!

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/866600865565683712

Common sense prevailing. That'd be a very Scouse thing to do.

Bleating Lamb

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

With Jones playing full game and Blind not coming on today does back 4 for final look like

Valencia Smalling Blind Darmian.

What do people reckon?.

jayo26

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

What do people reckon?.

Team for final I reckon is

Romero, Valencia, smalling, blind, Damian, Herrera, pogba, fellaini, mata, mkhitartan, Rashford.

Only position id be unsure of is smelling he may of been playing jones to get him up to match fitness.

TheDoc

To be honest I actually don't think De Gea will leave.

The money outlay on him is a negligible upgrade to their first XI. While he is an excellent keeper, Navas has been really good for them and it's not like a Bravo situation at City. He is a really good keeper for Madrid.

For the sort of money they will need to drop, surely its better spent elsewhere in the squad. Their first XI is excellent and their squad in general is really strong, but they are better spent putting that money into looking towards a new LB to be understudy to Marcello, they need a new CB if not two and they could use decent cover in midfield.

I get the impression Zidane has enough clout with the fans and in the club as a hole that he might be able to spearhead a "you get what I need, not what you want".

Buying De Gea is just more imaginary dick measuring from them, they don't need him.

HigginsJ

jayo26 wrote: »

Team for final I reckon is

Romero, Valencia, smalling, blind, Damian, Herrera, pogba, fellaini, mata, mkhitartan, Rashford.

Only position id be unsure of is smelling he may of been playing jones to get him up to match fitness.

I'd say Jones and it wouldn't surprise me to see Lingard instead of Mata.

paulbok

wanderer100 wrote: »

Thank fcuk for that!!

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/866600865565683712

Think the bus is already booked for a 4th place trophy parade.:D
Arsenal are holding onto their rolling annual booking in case they win the FA Cup.

jayo26

TheDoc wrote: »

To be honest I actually don't think De Gea will leave.

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https://twitter.com/D_DeGea/status/866363167181504512

I think he is all but gone I'd be surprised if he was here next season. I reckon the money outlay will be minimal as there will be a player coming opposite direction.

RobertKK

De Gea in a Bale deal.

GSPfan

We've sold players before to Madrid who we didnt want to sell. If De Gea is telling the club he would really like to go back to Spain and Real Madrid are willing to pay what United think is fair then Id want the club to sell him. Holding a player to a contract who isn't happy would be a mistake.

If he's happy to stay either way then tell Real to FO. That's a different story. I'm expecting him gone though.

TheDoc

jayo26 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/D_DeGea/status/866363167181504512

I think he is all but gone I'd be surprised if he was here next season. I reckon the money outlay will be minimal as there will be a player coming opposite direction.

If it's like Kroos,Bale,Isco or Ascensio or something like that, will take it as a softened blow.

If it's Navas, I'd question what is the point when we have an equal ability keeper as no.2.

I'd say it needs to be a)Massive fee b)Exchange for a quality player, not a Real reject c) tell them to **** off.

Anything outside of that I'll be disappointed, regardless of what the player wants. He's integral to what we need to do, is in an arena where he has unbelievable support for a goalkeeper and we should make sure if it is going to happen, as Jose would say "It's in conditions that satisfy the club".

Son Of A Vidic

jayo26 wrote: »

We could end the season with 2 trophies and champions league group stage qualification in the bag......

Our finishing was pathetic most if the year but we all know that is going to be the fixed this summer one way or another so all that matters is win Wednesday and then every negative statistic can go be feked.

That has been the only blip on the season for me and it's the players that have to take account for not finishing teams off. Any team that goes on a 25 game unbeaten run should end up winning the league and we haven't because of the lack of killer instinct. So many draws that really should have been wins, so if we can sort that out, then we're in the middle of the title race next year. Winning the EL would be a fine end to the season, but I'll still be happy enough if we don't do it. Because the side-wards & back passing from the LVG era is gone, a team that couldn't create chances is gone. Our problem now is not a lack of creating chances, but poor finishing and on paper that's much easier fix than having a team that can't create.

Jose is the first United manager to win a major trophy in his first season, he has the best unbeaten run in his first season. The guy who they said would never play kids, had 12 academy graduates on the field & bench yesterday. He gave Gomes his debut yesterday, the youngest player since the great Duncan Edwards to take the field for United. He's also the first player born after the year 2000 to make his debut in the PL. I'v been a United fan for nearly 40 years and I have to say yesterday was of the proudest days for me, just to see the kids making their debuts and to see the great work one of Fergie's Fledglings - Nick Butt, has been doing.

I'm really excited for the future and the talent coming through our world famous academy. Jose only brought in 4 players last year, he had to undue the damage done by Moyes & LVG, so we never had a hope of winning the league. Yet if we had of just being more clinical in front of goal, the final league standings could have been a lot different. I'm also encouraged by one the greatest pieces of man management I've ever seen. Prior to Jose's arrival, Rojo had put in some of the worse defensive performances I have ever seen for United. But this year Mourhino transformed the guy, his game and his confidence so much, that I ended up in a panic when we lost him to injury for the season. Last year Rojo was top of my list to go, after this year I want him going nowhere and that transformation for me is down to great management.

When I and a lot of United fans screamed for Fellaini's head after giving away a penalty against Everton. After my emotions returned to normal, I have to admire the way Jose showed loyalty to him and protected him afterwards. That's the kind of good management that earns the trust, respect and loyalty of a dressing room. Media trolls said Mata was f****d when Jose arrived, but once again they were wrong, just like they were about the kids. So looking back overall, ya I'm disappointed about not finishing teams off and the final league position. But it has been a good first season for the manager and if we do win the EL, then that would make it a great one.

pjohnson

Casemiro would be my pick from them.

GSPfan

RobertKK wrote: »

De Gea in a Bale deal.

I actually see this happening. Not as a direct swap or anything but I reckon if Bale is open to it United will be wanting first refusal and a good price if we are to let them have the same for De Gea.

My absolute ideal wish would be to buy Bale and play him up front. Rashford Bale Griezmann. Imagine that. Dream land stuff but only due to player preferences because we could afford it.

S.M.B.

TheDoc wrote: »

If it's like Kroos,Bale,Isco or Ascensio or something like that, will take it as a softened blow.

If it's Navas, I'd question what is the point when we have an equal ability keeper as no.2.

I'd say it needs to be a)Massive fee b)Exchange for a quality player, not a Real reject c) tell them to **** off.

Anything outside of that I'll be disappointed, regardless of what the player wants. He's integral to what we need to do, is in an arena where he has unbelievable support for a goalkeeper and we should make sure if it is going to happen, as Jose would say "It's in conditions that satisfy the club".

Not sure how Romero can be described as of equal ability to Navas.

If he was interested in moving then I see it as a win-win for United. We should still command a big fee in addition but I think he'd be great at filling the void left behind by DDG.

Bale is going to struggle to get into that first team going forward but I can't see there being any progress with a potential move for another 6/12 months.

TheDoc

While I appreciate your opinion and as a fan much longer than me I wouldn't question what would make you proud, but do you not think you are affording too much credit to the context in which Mourinho selected those players yesterday?

jayo26

pjohnson wrote: »

Casemiro would be my pick from them.

The most sensible of all suggestions this is he would be perfect for our midfield the only problem is he is perfect for Madrid midfield too so I can't see it been an option.

pjohnson

jayo26 wrote: »

The most sensible of all suggestions this is he would be perfect for our midfield the only problem is he is perfect for Madrid midfield too so I can't see it been an option.

Zidane rates him but Real Madrid also believed that Beckham was a replacement for Makelele!

Its practicality vs. marketing. Madrid can market De Gea far more than they can from Casemiro. But without Casemiro they will struggle. Its Zidane vs. the board.

Nervous already..........

jayo26

pjohnson wrote: »

Zidane rates him but Real Madrid also believed that Beckham was a replacement for Makelele!

Its practicality vs. marketing. Madrid can market De Gea far more than they can from Casemiro. But without Casemiro they will struggle. Its Zidane vs. the board.

Zidane will win that battle this season no bother especially if they beat juve his stock in that club is massive.

DrPhilG

TheDoc wrote: »

Navas has been really good for them and it's not like a Bravo situation at City. He is a really good keeper for Madrid.

Hasn't it already been confirmed that Navas is leaving at the end of the season though?

pjohnson

jayo26 wrote: »

Zidane will win that battle this season no bother especially if they beat juve his stock in that club is massive.

Perhaps but that'd be my demand. I wouldnt replace our goalkeeper with a weaker one 4 years his senior. This is a nice story all the same I stumbled over checking his age
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/683/main/2017/05/22/35726582/navas-shaves-head-in-support-of-cancer-sufferers

S.M.B.

DrPhilG wrote: »

Hasn't it already been confirmed that Navas is leaving at the end of the season though?

It looked like he was on his way out regardless of the DDG situation but it looks like Real have done a U-turn based on his contributions over the last few months.

It now looks like DDG is the only replacement they'll target and they're happy to keep him if this doesn't happen.

Hococop

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Nervous already..........

Im gonna say it, I'm not one bit confident

RobertKK

I'm thinking a Chelsea performance.
No not last October...

TheDoc

DrPhilG wrote: »

Hasn't it already been confirmed that Navas is leaving at the end of the season though?

Not that I had heard.

Running story for a few months has been Perez wants Navas and Benzema gone and to bring in De Gea and Hazard.

RockSalto

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Nervous already..........

Be grand. I'm quite confident now for some reason. I think we'll win 3-1.

xtal191

zerks wrote: »

An updated leak of the 3rd Jersey is out and it looks a lot better than the earlier version.

Looks terrible IMO

Lukker-

That can't be real

RockSalto

Another light-bending jersey. I couldn't take that! Say it ain't so!

jayo26

That one was supposedly leaked last year on here id be surprised if it was that.

RobertKK

xtal191 wrote: »

Looks terrible IMO

I can't see it

Cookiemunster

Wouldn't a grey 3rd kit be a bit too close in colour to the new black one?

Trigger

The 2nd and third images are the latest leaks. It's due to be released this week I think.

It's a fan design, there was a comp run by adidas/Chevy to design it

Cantona's Collars

astradave wrote: »

Pity you didn't post up who the opponent was or the exact date

#notveryintheknow

Kind of embargoed at the time,I was just told United and Liverpool are playing in Dublin in August.

Cantona's Collars

Hococop wrote: »

Im gonna say it, I'm not one bit confident

Ajax poor at the back and our finishing is cack,this is going to penalties.

FutureGuy

The away shirts looks fantastic in store

Hococop

FutureGuy wrote: »

The away shirts looks fantastic in store

The black one? Saw someone wearing it and it completely changed my opinion on it, way nicer than I thought originally

FutureGuy

Hococop wrote: »

The black one? Saw someone wearing it and it completely changed my opinion on it, way nicer than I thought originally

Yep. The design is more subtle in real life.

secman

xtal191 wrote: »

Looks terrible IMO

Looks more invisible than the one we famously ditched at half time against Southampton (?) some years back.

Billy86

FutureGuy wrote: »

The away shirts looks fantastic in store

Until the players can't see each other on the pitch!! :eek:

TheDoc

Is that jersey colour being difficult to see the players accepted as an actual legit reason?

Always thought it was a whopper spoof to cover up some rubbish results

Trigger

FutureGuy wrote: »

Yep. The design is more subtle in real life.

Bloke wearing it in the background

https://instagram.com/p/BUXPQt5hRBO/

RockSalto

TheDoc wrote: »

Is that jersey colour being difficult to see the players accepted as an actual legit reason?

Always thought it was a whopper spoof to cover up some rubbish results

I was at a game when they were wearing that. It was really sunny and actually hard to see the players in certain spaces that kit! I swear!

hufpc8w3adnk65

Moyse quits Sunderland

GSPfan

Besides from the fun of our last grey kit, I just think grey is shít colour for a football kit.

GSPfan

MrMac84 wrote: »

Moyse quits Sunderland

What do we reckon, Arsenal or Barcelona job? No smoke without fire, the timing is just uncanny.

The_Kew_Tour

Feel sorry for him.

kona

GSPfan wrote: »

What do we reckon, Arsenal or Barcelona job? No smoke without fire, the timing is just uncanny.

Seriously tho, who the hell would employ him? Its like hes forgot how to manage.

Lithium93_

How Ander Herrera became unlikely leader of Mourinho's United.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-europa-final-herrera-idUKKBN18I1A0?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=59230b0304d3014668fb2c93&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Antibac

FutureGuy wrote: »

The away shirts looks fantastic in store

Yea I thought it looked bag in the promo stuff but in store it's look s nice